User talk:Phil Fish

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Arawaks

The sentance you added

The Spanish also murdered the Arawaks in countless massacres, when they could derive no more benefit from them.

while probably not inaccurate, is in language that it too POV (non-neutral point of view). The language is too loaded for an encyclopedia. The second part especially {when they could derive no more benefit from them) is a rather strong assertion and I would prefer if you could back it up with a reference; as I recall, the massacres of Arawaks by the Spanish were not related to a lack of further "benefit" to be had. In fact, there was a constant labour shortage, which was alleviated by kidnapping so-called "Caribs". Please support the statement, or change it into more neutral language. Thanks Guettarda 15:07, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Glen J. Miles

Hi. I noticed your article at Glen J. Miles. While it's great that you're taking the time and effort to contribute to Wikipedia, this is an encyclopedia, and as such we try to only include content that is notable to the general public. Looking here at the guidelines for people-related articles, I'm not sure that your article fits the descripton. Let me know if you agree. --Alex S 04:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Orpha Klinker

See Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 January 9/Articles, it looks like the article was copied from elsewhere. Conscious 15:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, no problem, if the article is up to Wikipedia standards. Conscious 17:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve J.F.A. Cateau van Rosevelt

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Thank you for creating J.F.A. Cateau van Rosevelt.

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The article REALLY needs references to stay in mainspace, even if they're in Dutch. Also, I'd look at adding a project tag to the talk page?

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:38, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexandermcnabb: Thank you for your comments. As you can probably tell I am a real novice on the Wikipedia platform. While I have edited quite a few pages, I only just started attempting to create some. Over the past few weeks, I have started pages in my sandbox and as they weren't complete I did not publish them. Unfortunately when I came back the next day they were gone as was all my work. As you can imagine this is very frustrating. Until I figure out how to save my work and not lose it, I decided to publish the Rosevelt article and get back to it today or real soon.

I will be putting in the Dutch references today, but yesterday I ran out of time, doing both the translation and the pasting.

Phil FishPhil Fish (talk) 20:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's vastly frustrating. I have never quite trusted the sandbox, tend to copy things to a Word Doc if I need to 'overnight'. I also work on one new page at a time because more just, well, tempts providence! One approach might be to use draftspace (the 'new article wizard') until you're feeling 100% brave. There are also a couple of templates you can use, {{in use}} and {{intranslation}}, which tell people you're still working on an article. Generally, I wouldn't hit 'publish' on a new article in any case unless I've got at least a lead, a few lines of body and three good references linked to the text. Less than that and some busybody like me might swing by and mark the thing for draft or, worse, deletion before you know it. If it helps, ping me next time you publish something and I'll try and swing by. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 03:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandermcnabb (talk) 17 February 2021

Hi Alexander, I hope this message gets to you. I have been editing a lot of Ichthyologists and fish related pages. Today one of our fellow editors decided that I should not be adding Categories for Ichthyologists that don't have their own page and reversed my edits on 16 or so of my entries. I think that a person that has described 25 or so species should be recognized even if they don't have their own page yet.

Another editor commented that I should not be putting descriptions of the Ichthyologist on their category page, I basically add their life span, their nationality and their area of expertise. Things I would like to know when looking at a Category on the Taxa they described.

I planned on adding a few ichthyologists to the Wikipages, many of whom have pages in other wikis such as German and French.

Of course I would like to know that my time spent will not be reversed by another editor.

Any tips you can give me, regarding the above issues would be helpful. Best regards Phil Fish (talk) 19:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category pages

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Related: please don't add nonexistent categories to articles - as you did on many Betta pages. Not every taxonomist will have sufficient presence to sustain a category in their name, and many will never get one. Only add categories once they actually exist! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also related, per WP:SMALLCAT, please don't make categories that can't be populated. If an author only described one or two taxa, creating "Category:Taxa described by First Last" is not necessary. Enwebb (talk) 16:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am disappointed that you continue to do all of the above, and do not see any value in even responding to these talkpage messages. That is not consistent with the collaborative nature of Wikipedia. A frequent outcome of that behavior, after broader community discussion, is to be blocked from editing, which would be a shame in this case. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Red Link Categories

Hello, Phil Fish,

Please do not add nonexistent (red link) categories to any pages on Wikipedia. They cause error messages that other editors have to fix and so are disruptive. You've been warned about this and if you continue, you might be facing a block. Just cease doing so. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Liz,

Yesterday I had a discussion about how many species are necessary to be described before a describer can have its own category, “Taxa named by???” I have been on a many days long journey to put as many fish into the proper describer category. As I put a category down, sometimes it would turn out that (so far) many of the describer’s category only had one (usually) or just a few. I knew as I progressed that there would be more described species to be added that I had not got to as of then. Some of the editors thought that I should keep track of the fish and when I got to about twenty species, I could then add the category. This I begged of them, would entail too much record keeping, and extra effort, to no avail. They understood my problem. As I look at genus, I make sure each fish has a describer, and as such put that into the Category. Sometimes when I run into a singular describer from that genus, there will be other fish in other genus’ that they may have described discovered further down the road. Many describers of fish were also fond of describing reptiles (something I will not cover unless I run into them by accident. I have sent a few snakes, arachnids, mammals to their describers’ category.) So yesterday, rather than create a category the first time I run into it, I would leave the page open and come back when I had seen enough species to make a category. So because of that, there were many “Red” categories. One you have found was “Fang Ping-Wen”. An ichthyologist without a page of his own. My progression up until the comments by some yesterday, was: Look for the describer and category. If no category I would put them in a category, (I am keeping a list of describers with categories). If there was no category for the describer, I would search for the describer’s page and sometime find that they already had a category by searching Wikipedia. If they did not have a category, I would create it. Of course, it turned up red, at which point I would create the new category knowing that more species would populate the category as I continued on. The editors yesterday thought that I had created too many categories with just one or two species, not realizing that there probably would be more species to come. I explained to them, and they kind of agreed to let my project run its course. As a preference to them, I did not create categories for the first time I found a describer. This left many “Red” categories in my wake. In addition to adding categories, I am putting in who the fish was named for if it was a person, usually another ichthyologist. If I found a describer that did not have a page of their own, I would search other Wikipedias (German, French, Spanish, Russian) to see if there was a page for them elsewhere, many times there were. I have a few pages for those individuals in the works. They will be worked on when I finish my describers project, although I know I could never cover all the fish in my lifetime, I will make a concerted effort to get as many as possible. This is tedious work, and I ask your indulgence while I continue on with my work. Between the editors yesterday and you today, I am finding that some of my hard work has been undone. As the seasoned editor that you are, and me just an amateur, I ask for some guidance to help me continue on my work, so that I can satisfy all the requirements of Wikipedia.Phil Fish (talk) 20:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping @Liz: (Phil Fish, I am doing this so Liz will get a notification that you replied to her. Otherwise, she might not see your remarks. You can send a notification to someone by typing {{ping|UserName}}. I don't need to ping you because you will get a notification every time someone leaves a message on your talk page.) Enwebb (talk) 02:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Helen Kay Larson

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Greeting Diannaa,

The article concerning Phoxinus likai has been an interesting experience. I have been filling in the fish genus' that have not had their individulal fish categorized. I was doing the genus Phoxinus and when I came to Phoxinus likai it popped up that it had been removed and so I followed the link and (I can't seem to find his name at the moment} had it removed for copyright infringement. I finished up the genus, skipping over likei. When I was done I contacted ( the guy who's name I can't remember and aksed if I could add likai to the rest of the genus. He said sure. So I did.

I am not really sure what you consider copyrighted material in this case. Most fish articles at the minimum have the scientific name, where is it found or exists, and sometimes the maximum length. Most times this information is gathered from Fishbase, other times it is gathered from other material.

So again please let me know what copyrighted material was mistakely placed in the article so I can avoid making the same mistake. I was unable to see what you had removed and of course I don't have any recollection of the whole article.

Thanks for all you do,

Phil Fish (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view what the bot found. The prose I removed is identical to that found at https://www.fishbase.se/summary/67849— Diannaa (talk) 15:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Copy pasting

Hey there. Can you please fix your copy pasting at Platygobiopsis dispar and Platygobiopsis akihito? I cannot mark them as reviewed until this is fixed. Copyright detector 1 and 2. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Novem Linguae Fixed. Let me know if more is needed. Phil Fish (talk) 07:00, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I appreciate that. Also please be very careful to not copy paste or close paraphrase. I hear folks get blocked after a certain number of copyright warnings. Looking at this talk page, looks like you're at around 5 mentions of copyright. Just trying to give you a head's up so we can avoid that situation. And as you probably know every article gets run through the copyright detector since it is part of the WP:NPP flowchart. Happy editing my friend. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ammoglanis obliquus

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Speedy deletion nomination of Platygobiopsis hadiatyae

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A barnstar for you!

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Thanks,

The work goes on.

Every fish deserves a page. Phil Fish (talk) 16:54, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Clara Lord

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Fixed Phil Fish (talk) 16:52, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overlinking

Hi Phil,

According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking you should generally only link to an subject once in an article.

“Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead. Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article; e.g. |work=The Guardian.”

The Triplophysa article was well overlinked, I have been guilty of that in the past but I am now aware of the policy. It’s especially not helpful where most of the links are red. That’s why I rectified the the overlinking in the article.Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update, I am attempting to see that all the fish in the Triplophysa page have their describers and their Honoria completed. Adding all the extra links, was helping me in that endeavor. I will attempt to work around the restriction.

Hopefully in the future we can provide articles for the authors in red and see them turn to blue. Phil Fish (talk) 23:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Chen Zi-Ming

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Hi there nice article. In the text and the reference it says the fish in found in Guyana, but the categories all say Brazil. Is this correct or am I missing something here? Regards

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Calvin R. Bernard

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Liz

Hello Liz,

I hope this message finds you well.

I seem to be misunderstanding the requirements for an ichthyologist to have a “Category” for the fish they have described.

As you are aware, I have been adding pages for fish species that up until now have not had that recognition.

I am keeping it simple, in order to add as many pages as I can.

I primarily add the species with the following information:

Species name; Describers name with link if possible; synonyms if necessary; location where the fish inhabits; maximum size of the fish; references, mostly from Fish Base, or others that I may discover; Category's, (which I follow other species in the genus) Family, Describers, location, and date described.

It seems there is some sort of requirement for the author’s category that I am not aware of.

If the author(describer) does not have a category, I create one on the species page. I do not create a category with no entries. I put the authors name in a category on the species page and then I move on and create a category from that link.

Some editors must feel this is incorrect and delete the categories from the species page.

This in turn creates a category with no entries, and thus creates an issue that the category must be deleted because it contains no entries.

Please help me here as creating a page, and categories takes up a lot of time and finding that I did something wrong is very disturbing.

Please point me in the right directions, so that I can avoid unnecessary effort on my part and not cause editors to have to delete author categories from the species and thus cause Category pages that have no entries.

I have searched the help area but was unable to find an answer regarding the requirements of a Category.

Thanks you in advance for your help in this matter.

Phil Fish (talk) 20:12, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Phil Fish,

I replied to you at Category talk:Taxa named by Calvin R. Bernard which is where I saw your message first. I hope it explains what I know about the situation but I think you would get more answers by talking directly with UnitedStatesian. My role is just tagging categories I come across that are empty. If during the next 7 days after they've been tagged they are no longer empty, then the tag is removed.

As for the rules of taxonomy and naming species, I have little knowledge about that subject. I'm sure you could find more information on how Wikipedia handles that topic at Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Taxa named by Guillermo Luzada Ablan has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Taxa named by Marcelo Rodrigues de Carvalho has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Taxa named by Nathan R. Lovejoy has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Taxa named by D. Ross Robertson has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Taxa named by Ivan Sázima has been nominated for deletion

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Please stop

Hello PF, as you see by the result of the many discussions linked above, there is consensus against having "Taxa named by . . ." categories when there is no article on the namer and when the namer has named very few taxa. And yet you continue to create such categories, why? I don't think you are getting the point; please stop creating such categories and save further action on this issue. Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Javad Ghasemzadeh

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@SunDawn:

Thank you for your kind comments, it gives me reason to continue.

Unfortuately other editors here have given me lots of discouragement.

Your comments are most gratefully apprediated.

Phil Fish (talk) 07:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Symphysanodon andersoni is a very nice page. Well done!! BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 07:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Categorizing taxa

Please don't add articles to categories that don't exist to have articles added to them, such as when you've tried at least twice now to add Cosmocampus heraldi to the nonexistent Category:Taxa named by Ronald Alan Fritzsche. Articles are not allowed to be left sitting in redlinked categories that don't exist, so you really need to not add pages to redlinked categories that don't exist. Bearcat (talk) 15:20, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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	Synchiropus rosulentus is a very nice page. Well done! BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 07:18, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Hughesdarren:

Thanks for the encouragement.

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Bodianus opercularis is a very good page. Well done! BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 09:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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	Oxuderces dentatus is yet another excellent article. I wish I could give all your pages barnstars. They deserve them (or rather, you do)! BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 02:18, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Daniel L. Stein

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Thanks for all the fish

Makes me appreciate the ocean for one thing. Your contributions to Wikipedia are excellent. We're lucky to have you. jengod (talk) 08:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the kudos,

I've taken on a big task, and it's nice to have a positive comment to cheer me on.

Phil Fish (talk) 19:06, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Your fish species articles continute to make a great contrinution. Excellent work!! BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 07:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Jurgen Schmidt (ichthyologist)

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Light's bitterling

Hi, you added a reference link to Light's bitterling a few years back.[1] I'm actually in need of that particular source (Wu 1931), but the link you provided returns "page not found". Can you take a look and see if you can fix it? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 18:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to go ahead and remove the link you added and add a link to the original paper, as I was able to verify the material directly in that work. Viriditas (talk) 18:49, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I have fixed the links and added antorher reference.

It should all work now.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by J. Pieter Michels

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Saúl Prada Pedreros

A tag has been placed on Category:Taxa named by Saúl Prada Pedreros indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 12:05, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]