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Need Help in WP:PBUH

Hi bro,

I need your help removing terrorism section from WP:PBUH.

I removed it citing reason why it should be removed but CambridgeBayWeather put it back in.

If you can please go to that page and remove that section by reverting the change done by CambridgeBayWeather.

It will establish a consensus that more than one person think that it should be removed.

I also tried to talk it out with CambridgeBayWeather on his talk page and you can see my post there as well.

Help me brother. Sajjad Altaf (talk) 02:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Great article. I've made a few edits and may make some more as time allows me. By the way, I've been thinking over this for a long time, we should have an article on Geostrategy in Pakistan too which discusses Pakistan's geopolitics and its strategic location - like the Geostrategy in Central Asia article. The article could cover some very interesting topics, such as how the Soviet Union was allegedly interested in Pakistan because of its strategic location during the Afghan occupation, and other topics like the country's important location in the context of the War on Terror (i.e. NATO and other routes pass through Pakistan to enter landlocked Afghanistan), Pakistan's proximity to Central Asian countries, the strategic importance of the mountains in northern and northwest Pakistan, Balochistan's natural resources and close location to the Persian Gulf and Middle East, Sindh's historically important location as a gateway for many foreign empires that entered the subcontinent, Kashmir's geostrategic location, and also how the Chinese today see Pakistan as the best route to access Arabian sea through Gwadar, the Silk Road etc. I think I will go and on, but this is an interesting topic nevertheless. If you are interested, we can work together on creating such an article some time in the future. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 13:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edit here has reverted an edit I have done twice now to correct the quotes to read as 'per the source'. If you continue doing this, especially without explanation, I may have to take this up with Wikipedia Administrators. 220 of ^Borg 07:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edit to Chagai-I here, introduces/changes information that is not supported by the cited source here. You are also re-adding excessive links.

Source: "... PAEC had no plans to develop a hydrogen device... "
- Edit: " ... PAEC had no plans to develop a hydrogen device ..." Re-adding a link to Hydrogen bomb that re-directs to Thermonuclear weapon which is already linked in the same sentence! And re-linking to Ishfaq Ahmad, who is already linked four (4) other times on the page!

Source: "Pakistan has had a nuclear capability since 1984 ... "
- Edit: "Pakistan has had a nuclear capability since 1983 ... " N (incorrect year, if you have a better source, you need to have it before you change the cited information, wp:VERIFIABILITY)

Source: "All boosted fission devices using uranium 235"
- Edit: "All boosted-fission devices uses U²³⁵ (Arguable, but that is not how the source shows it. Boosted fission weapon is linked to in the immediately proceeding paragraph. wp:OVERLINK. Source says "using" not "uses". Why change it?)

Source: "These boosted devices are like a half way stage towards a thermonuclear bomb. ..."
- Edit: "These boosted-fission devices are like a half way stage towards a thermonuclear bomb. ..." N (Source does not say "-fission", Why are you changing it?)

Your grammar needs work too:

Original: "The program accelerated when India eventually surprised the world with its first nuclear test (Smiling Buddha) in 1974"

Your edit: [1] "The program accelerated when India eventually surprising the world with its first nuclear test in 1974"

Surprising is the wrong word to use. If you change it more, then it is correct.

"The program accelerated with India eventually surprising the world with its first nuclear test in 1974"

I have assumed good faith (WP:AGF) on your part, but that is quickly fading.

You have not bothered to reply to my messages, you have not taken my advice on normal WP practises,
You have not explained your reverts back to incorrect information, whereas I have explained my edits in detail.
You continue to needlessly 'hide' links behind acronyms, like here twice! This is not normal WP practise.

I particularly loose AGF when I see 'Anonymous' users (IP editors) reverting back to the version you prefer, and displaying similar editing behaviours. Like here. Be advised that editing while logged out to revert other editors is considered to be wp:Sock puppetry. (Not accusing you, but it is suspicious, plus that the several IPs involved are all from the same state.)

Can you have the courtesy to at least acknowledge my comments here? Wikipedia (WP) is not a place where you can edit 'in a vacuum', ignoring everyone else. Editors need to work together, within the rules and guidelines of WP. I've only been editing since 2009 (before I had a WP account), what would I know?

None of the above means I won't revert you when your edits add or alter information (such as the quotes mentioned) that are not supported by a reliable source. I am basically required to do so. 220 of ^Borg 09:33, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about your use of quotations at Chagai-I

I have asked some questions about WP policy, related to your use of quotations, at the Teahouse.
The discussion is at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Normal WP practise regarding quotations", (Perma link).

I strongly suggest you take part, and read the information and comments there, as your alteration of what is said in the quotations is not per WP guidelins and practises. See MOS:QUOTE in particular. 220 of ^Borg 13:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Twice now you have altered sourced quotes so that they do not say what the source says. Per this edit. 220 of ^Borg 17:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Chagai-I again

PeerBaba,
Per your edit here, it is only your opinion that:

"... Its significant on describing the blast effect. It should not have removed in the first place.)"

Despite the edited caption you are insisting on displaying poor grammar:

"Snowy mountains raised above as the chain reaction took place."

whereas:

"Snow displaced from the mountainside by the nuclear explosion"

clearly and simply describes what is happening in the picture.

If I haven't already pointed this out to you please see Ownership. In any WP:Content disputes, which this particular edit certainly is, you are expected to discuss it at Talk:Chagai-I, and not engage in edit warring over it. Please also make yourself more familiar with the WP:Manual of Style (WP:MOS) which determines the 'look' of WP pages, or at very least guides how many things are done on WP. Regards, 220 of ^Borg 05:25, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Your summary says:

"No changes. Just remove the inconsistent citations. All are valid sources. Please check if you have to,"

but you added +4,485 bytes, because you made large edits to the text. You did not "Just remove the inconsistent citations". 220 of ^Borg 19:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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@PeerBaba: Thanks, I appreciate your reply at the Talk page. Please see the Talk page again, as the conversation might benefit from your additional input. FeatherPluma (talk) 20:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia values accuracy, but it requires verifiability. Prisoners of war during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 said 90,000 POWs because that's what the cited source says. Changing content without citing a source for the change violates verifiability, violates neutral point of view by not taking the cited source's view into account or explaining why it is either not a significant view or not a reliable sources for the view, and deceives the reader by making it appear that the changed figure came from the cited source when it did not. You are welcome to change the number of POWs to a range, but please cite a reliable source or sources for it.

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As the POW article stands today, it doesn't touch on torture or human rights in Bangladesh, so I've removed those categories. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:47, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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References

^ Jalal – The sole spokesman, page 266
^ Akbar Ahmed (12 August 2005). Jinnah, Pakistan and Islamic Identity: The Search for Saladin. Routledge. pp. 342–. ISBN 978-1-134-75022-1.
^ Low, D. A. (1991). Political Inheritance of Pakistan. Springer. ISBN 9781349115563. Retrieved 29 January 2018.
^ Kulke, Hermann; Rothermund, Dietmar (1998). A History of India. Psychology Press. ISBN 9780415154826. Retrieved 29 January 2018.

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رابطہ

ایک اہم بات چیت کے لئے اس نمبر پر مجھ سے رابطہ کریں

صفر تین چار سات تین پانچ چھ صفر چار دو دو — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.57.187.136 (talk) 05:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PeerBaba: jawab muntazir hai. --39.50.179.224 (talk) 17:35, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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You are doing exactly the same gross over-linking that you were doing in June 2015. Why? And almost never with an explaining edit summary. 220 of ^Borg 08:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary piping

Please explain the point of changing the syntax of a working link Low enriched uranium,

From [[Low enriched uranium]] to this Piped link [[Low enriched uranium|low enriched uranium]] as you did here

low enriched uranium, all lower case letters, on its own, works too, so adding the piping is a wasted edit, IMHO.

Could you have the simple courtesy of explaining? 220 of ^Borg 09:02, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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One of many such edits is here. You did it without an edit summary and have apparently ignored my templated and personal messages on your talk-page. This is also what you did back in June 2015 on Chagai-I. 220 of ^Borg 09:38, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading edit summary

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Munir Ahmad Khan has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. The summaries are helpful to people browsing an article's history, so it is important that you use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did. Feel free to use the sandbox to make test edits. (End of templated notice.) - 220 of ^Borg 04:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

* A rare edit summary, but you said "no changes" when you did make changes. See here
• changed the 'Use ???? English' language template back from 'British' to 'American',
• changed some text in the lede,
• changed some links in the lede, including adding unnecessary WP:Piping.
I would be much more accepting of what you are doing IF you would use an informative edit summary for the majority of your edits, or answered when I question what you are doing. WP is a collaborative project, but you are not editing in a collaborative manner. Instead, you are displaying WP:Ownership, which I feel is WP:Disruptive.

Please communicate. Regards, 220 of ^Borg 04:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment re above notice

You are constantly reverting to un-grammatical usage of English. The relevant edit for this event is here.
I have explained my edits in detail, especially in my edit summaries, which you very rarely use, but also on your talk-page, however you have apparently ignored my advice and continued to return this page, as you have others, to your preferred, un-grammatical versions. Please have the courtesy of communicating about this issue in some form. 220 of ^Borg 08:18, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Large deletion, no summary??

Re. Munir Ahmad Khan
I know, that you know, how to do edit summaries, so it's totally unbelievable to me that you'll give a very average edit summary for an average copyedit, here but then delete a pile of text with no reason given as you did here. You are expected to say why you do an edit like that. It also created a red Cite error in the 'References' list because you deleted a source in use, that then required a Bot to repair it, here.

Your "Changed the wording.'' edit added 126 bytes and changed this rather hard to understand text, which I had tagged because it didn't make sense:

"In 1976–77, Khan engaged the CEA for abiding^{[clarification needed]} the construction of the Chashma Nuclear Power Plant but the CEA left the project with PAEC taking control of the entire project, and later bringing China's role in the power grid connection of the nuclear power plant with nation's energy system^[clarify].' "

into,

" In 1973–77, Khan entered in negotiation with CEA for Chashma Nuclear Power Plant, having advised the MoE to sign the [[IAEA safeguards|IAEA safeguard] ] agreement with France to ensure the foreign funding of the plant, which the PAEC was designing but the CEA left the project with PAEC taking control of the entire project despite Khan's urging to French CEA to fulfill its contractual obligations. With France's offing, Khan eventually negotiated with China over this project's foreign funding in 1985–86. "

Too long, it's largely one loooong sentence. Your usage of "the" is IMHO opinion, incorrect, you use it where is not needed, and leave it out where it should be. "The" is, IMHO as a native English speaker of 50+ years experience, not needed before most acronyms like "CEA", though this seems to need deciding on a case-by-case basis. "Offing" is not the right word, in British or American English. You are unecessarily repetitive, "the project", "the project". You are using WP:Piped links for no obvious reason or advantage.

Try this: (additions in 'bold, deletions ~~struck~~ through)

In 1973–77, Khan entered into negotiation with CEA for Chashma Nuclear Power Plant, having advised the MoE to sign the [[IAEA safeguards~~|IAEA safeguards~~]] agreement with France to ensure ~~the~~ foreign funding of the plant, which ~~the~~ PAEC was designing, but ~~the~~ CEA left the project with PAEC taking control ~~of the entire profect~~, despite Khan's urging~~French~~ CEA to fulfill its contractual obligations. With France's ~~offing~~exit, Khan eventually negotiated with China over ~~this~~ the project's foreign funding in 1985–86.

Giving the more compact, and shorter:

In 1973–77, Khan entered into negotiation with CEA for Chashma Nuclear Power Plant, having advised the MoE to sign the IAEA safeguards agreement with France to ensure foreign funding of the plant, which PAEC was designing, but CEA left the project with PAEC taking control despite Khan urging CEA to fulfill its contractual obligations. With France's exit, Khan eventually negotiated with China over the project's foreign funding in 1985–86.

Or, breaking up the sentences more:

In 1973–77, Khan entered in negotiations with CEA for Chashma Nuclear Power Plant, having advised the MoE to sign the IAEA safeguards agreement with France to ensure ~~the~~ foreign funding of the plant, which ~~the~~ PAEC was designing but ~~the~~ CEA left the project with PAEC taking control. [of the entire project] This was despite Khan's urging ~~to French~~ CEA to fulfill its contractual obligations. With France's offing, exit,' Khan eventually negotiated with China over ~~this~~ the project's foreign funding in 1985–86.

Resulting in, 3 sentences, long, short, short; instead of 1 long one, and a 'short'er one:

In 1973–77, Khan entered negotiations with CEA for Chashma Nuclear Power Plant, having advised the MoE to sign the IAEA safeguards agreement with France to ensure foreign funding of the plant, which PAEC was designing but the CEA left the project with PAEC taking control. This was despite Khan's urging CEA to fulfill its contractual obligations. With France's exit, Khan eventually negotiated with China over the project's foreign funding in 1985–86.

Or, 4 short/er sentences:

In 1973–77, Khan entered negotiations with CEA for Chashma Nuclear Power Plant, having advised the MoE to sign the IAEA safeguards agreement with France to ensure foreign funding of the plant. PAEC was designing it but CEA left the project with PAEC taking full control. This was despite Khan's urging for CEA to fulfill its contractual obligations. With France's exit, Khan later negotiated with China over the project's foreign funding in 1985–86.

Or another version with 3 sentences again, short, long/er, short:

In 1973–77, Khan entered negotiations with CEA for Chashma Nuclear Power Plant, having advised the MoE to sign the IAEA safeguards agreement with France to ensure foreign funding of the plant. PAEC was designing it but CEA left the project with PAEC taking full control, despite Khan's urging for CEA to fulfill its contractual obligations. With France's exit, Khan later negotiated with China over the project's foreign funding in 1985–86.

Please take some notice of what I said here, it took me hours to write.
PeerBaba, have a nice day! 😁 220 of ^Borg 13:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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* The relevant edit/edits are here.

You have kept changing (this is only one example):

• "When Israel's Operation Opera destroyed the "Osirak" reactor facility in Iraq in 1981, …"

to the rather less informative:

• "When Israel's surprise airstrike destroyed the "Osirak" reactor facility in Iraq in 1981, …"

or similar. Without edit summary, or any attempt to explain it in any way. Note also, the piped link to Osirak Nuclear Plant redirects to Operation Opera, so you're linking to the same WP page twice in four(4) words! 220 of ^ßorg 06:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I hope you take notice of this block, far more 'talkative', cooperative and productive editors than you hàve been banned from WP before. WP is a collaborative venture, and if you go around reverting/editing out others constructive edits and restoring poor grammar, incorrect word usage, etc, etc, without even a comment … well … it's up to you. 220 of ^ßorg 20:15, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Was this you leaving a message including, "… dont banned me … ", on my talkpage as well? 220 of ^ßorg 06:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No reply? 220 of ^ßorg 16:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar, unnecessary link piping etc, etc

This may be the last time I bother to explain this, or any, issue to you, BECAUSE I THINK YOU DON'T BOTHER TO LISTEN. You were making exactly the same types of disruptive edits 5 YEARS AGO at Chagai-I. Therefore I am apparently wasting my time.

English?

• If you don't reply here, as you usually don't, because you can't understand what I am writing, then I seriously think your understanding of written English is NOT good enough to edit on the English language Wikipedia.

• Consider that EVERY time, EVERY time I checked any of your edits, I have found:

bad grammar,
use of wrong words,
capitalisation errors,
massive over-linking,
Links that go to an incorrect page, like Rocky Mountains , in the USA, when writing about mountains in Pakistan!!
linking of common words,
Links that go to unexpected pages (see WP:EASTEREGG), and
unnecessary piping of links. (You 'pipe' almost EVERY link!!!)

These issues have continued, even AFTER I have left messages, MANY messages, here, and on article talk pages.

Editing

The edit you performed here was mostly a waste of time as the sentence still DIDN'T make sense when you finished

"… Khan published papers on analytical mechanics of balancing of rotating masses, thermodynamics and the mathematical rigorous to compete, but still failed to impress his fellow theorists at PAEC, generally in the physics community.
Do you mean?: Additions in bold:; "… Khan published papers on the analytical mechanics of balancing of rotating masses, thermodynamics and with the mathematical rigor~~ous~~to compete, but still failed to impress his fellow theorists at PAEC, and generally in the physics community."?

The 'original' sentence, partly my work, mainly trying to make sense out of vague, un-grammatical writing said:
For context:

"… Abdul Qadeer Khan is a showman." During the timeline of the bomb project, … ", (continuing):

"… Qadeer Khan pushed his research into mathematically rigorous calculations in theoretical physics and topics to compete, but still failed to impress his fellow theorists at PAEC, generally in the physics community."

Which should have been (my error):

"… Qadeer Khan pushed his research into mathematically rigorous calculations in theoretical physics and topics to compete, but still failed to impress his fellow theorists at PAEC, and generally in the physics community."

Unnecessary link piping

"… Khan published papers on [[Analytical mechanics|analytical mechanics]] of [[Balancing of rotating masses|balancing of rotating masses]], thermodynamics and the [[Mathematical rigour|mathematical rigorous]] to compete, but still failed to impress his fellow theorists at PAEC, generally in the physics community."

This works fine WITHOUT any WP:Link piping, like this:

:"… Khan published papers on [[analytical mechanics]] of [[balancing of rotating masses]], thermodynamics and the [[mathematical rigour]] to compete, but still failed to impress his fellow theorists at PAEC, generally in the physics community."
Which appears on the page as:

"… Khan published papers on analytical mechanics of balancing of rotating masses, thermodynamics and the mathematical rigour to compete, but still failed to impress his fellow theorists at PAEC, generally in the physics community."

'Weird' linking

One of your edits created, or recreated:
:"… met with the embassy officials at the [[List of diplomatic missions of Pakistan|Pakistan Embassy in Hague]]." Which looks like:

"… met with the embassy officials at the Pakistan Embassy in Hague."

Poor grammar, "… in The Hague", NOT "… in Hague."

Should be more like:

"… met with the embassy officials at the Pakistani Embassy in The Hague ." (The cities name is "The Hague"!)

WP:Easter egg type inking which should be avoided. You are the ONLY editor I have seen linking like this. I have removed links like this before, and you keep RETURNING them, sneakily IMHO, I might add. That is called WP:Edit warring, and you need to STOP doing it.

Grammar

"mathematical rigorous" is BAD grammar, "mathematical rigour", or "mathematically rigorous", as I believe I had it, IS correct in this case. Your usage of "the" is frequently grammatically wrong. I don't 'know' the rules for it's usage, but English IS my native language, and sometimes you just learn by experience, or what 'sounds' correct.

Editing 'style'

To top it off, the 'way' in which you edit mades it VERY hard to tell what changes you made. You seem to be frequently moving paragraphs, and adding/ removing line spaces which changes the paragraph alignment so the 'diffs' are hard to see.

See my editing 'style' here, anyone can see EXACTLY what I have done, compared to your edit here.
I find it VERY difficult to make out:

what has been moved,
what new text has been added, and
what text has been altered.

'Excessive'? editing

You seem to make a LOT of edits for little obvious article improvement, you are clogging up WP:recent changes lists, for example.
I suggest that you try editing the text WITHOUT adding or removing any blank lines if you can avoid doing so. AND try to PREVIEW your edit so you can see what the 'diff' looks like to other editors.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 220 of ^ßorg 16:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~31 edits to Abdul Qadeer Khan on 4-5 June alone! 220 of ^ßorg 16:52, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning up after you, AGAIN, at Abdul Qadeer Khan!

So, once AGAIN after spending considerable time cleaning up after you, you came back AGAIN and repeated exactly the SAME avoidable editing mistakes and grammar errors that have been pointed out to you, by me an other editors, at least as long ago as FIVE years!

See my edit to Abdul Qadeer Khan, here. I'm not perfect but I believe that this is near 100% correct grammar. If you go back and edit back into it, poor grammar, over-linking, unnecessary piping, etc I will IMMEDIATELY take your editing up with WP administrators.

A few examples from my edit, in English, we do not write:

"Upon learning of [the] India's surprise nuclear test … "

Instead:

"Upon learning of India's surprise nuclear test … " or

"Upon learning of the surprise Indian nuclear test … "

And

"… was given a transfer to less sensitive section …"

Instead:

"… was given a transfer to a less sensitive section …" or

"… was transferred to a less sensitive section …"

Take heed, I'm sick of wasting hours cleaning up your poor editing. 220 of ^ßorg 18:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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