User talk:Nettwerkrob
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Hello, Nettwerkrob, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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Thom Russo
[edit]There is a problem here because you are looking for something which Wikipedia is not. You want somewhere to promote your client, but we are trying to write an encyclopedia. This is a situation we call WP:Conflict of interest. It may be possible to get somewhere, but it's difficult. Read User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard for some background - I have written it out because I have this conversation quite often.
- Conflict of interest - need not be a stopper, follow WP:BESTCOI, basically don't post articles or make edits yourself, propose them, declaring your interest, and let uninvolved users decide.
- Notability - may be a problem, because behind-the-scenes people don't get the limelight the performers do, and notability doesn't rub off, you don't get notable by working for notable people. It has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people independent of him written substantial comment about him? Think hard about notability, because if you can't show it you will be wasting your time.
- Ownership: unlike Myspace or LinkedIn, you won't own this article, other people can and will edit it, you will not be able to require your preferred version - see WP:LUC.
If you want to go ahead,
- Read WP:Your first article
- make a draft in your user space at User:Nettwerkrob/Thom Russo - just click on that "redlink" to start,
- Make very sure that it is not promotional in any way. Wikipedia is extremely resistant to being used for promotion of any kind, and your COI means that this will be looked at very hard. Put right out of your mind any idea that you are trying to "sell" your client or show how great he is. An encyclopedia article is quite different from, say, a Myspace page. You are writing a dry, neutral account of what he has achieved, with references to prove it. When you are about to write a glowing adjective, imagine a hostile critic looking over your shoulder saying "Who says so? Can you prove it?"
- You can ask for comment on your draft at WP:Requests for feedback
- When it is ready, propose it at WP:Articles for creation. Either they will accept it, or they will tell you why not.
If you are beginning to feel this is much harder than you thought, good: that's what I am trying to convey. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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