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Dear Mattbuck:

First, the new Strange New Worlds 2016 is an e-book. I indicated that; you deleted it.

Also, the List of Star Trek Novels page is a list for Star Trek Novels (as well as Short Stories). There have been numerous (possibly hundreds) of books about Star Trek including various reference books or even fictional reference books that did not contain stories. The Miscellaneous Section of the Star Trek List of Novels page has for some reason included a few of these books.

These include: The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (Ira Steven Behr), July 1995 The Star Trek Cookbook (Ethan Phillips and William J Birnes), January 1999 The Hologram's Handbook (Robert Picardo, with art by Jeff Yagher), 2002

Additionally, for some reason the Miscellaneous section included books that are not "Miscellaneous" but are listed under The Next Generation. These include: Articles of the Federation (Keith R. A. DeCandido), May 2005 A Singular Destiny (Keith R. A. DeCandido), January 2009

Additionally the Miscellaneous Section included books that are merely Omnibus volumes of DS9 books already listed in the DS9 section (if anything they should be listed in the DS9 section):

Twist of Faith - DS9 "relaunch" reprint omnibus (S. D. Perry, David Weddle & Jeffrey Lang and Keith R. A. DeCandido), July 2007 These Haunted Seas - DS9 Mission Gamma reprint omnibus (David R. George III and Heather Jarman), June 2008

There have been hundreds and hundreds of Star Trek comic books. Many of these have been re-printed in "book"form (IDW constantly comes out with them). Why list just the Manga comics and not all the others? None should be listed as comics are not novels (or short stories).

It is for these reasons that I deleted the other "Miscellaneous" books

One volume missing of short stories (although parodies) that I had added is: Treks Not Taken which can be found here. https://www.amazon.com/Treks-Not-Taken-Vonnegut-Generation/dp/0060952768


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UCL Institute of Education street address, please. Is it on Gower Street or Bedford Way? (Duplicate question on Wikimedia Commons.)--Dthomsen8 (talk) 20:29, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dthomsen8 I don't know. Perhaps you could consult their website? If you're referring to my photo, it's geocoded, go look at it on a map. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Useddenim, what was it? -mattbuck (Talk) 07:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
{{NWLLR RDT2}} was detailed diagram of the the North and West London Light Railway, showing all the connecting lines. I redrew it from the simple linear arrangement you had created into something that more accurately reflected the actual arrangement of lines, and then added it to {{NWLLR RDT}}. I hope that wasn't too presumptuous of me. Useddenim (talk) 12:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Transport in Bristol: Inner Circuit Road

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I take your point that it isn't appropriate to link 'ring road' to 20th Century Road Schemes in Bristol#Inner_Circuit_road. However since we have information about the actual ring road in question, wouldn't it be better to refer to that specific information rather than a generic definition of 'ring road'? Maybe something like this:

Bristol city centre was, until the 1990s, encircled by the Inner Circuit Road — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedSquirrel (talk • contribs) 10:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RedSquirrel, while I get what you're aiming at, the link target isn't suitable. The Inner Circuit Road part of that article (which by the way has anchor #Inner_Circuit_Road_(A4044), not #Inner_Circuit_Road) is about the road's construction, whereas you really want a more generalised article which explains what route the road took. If there is sufficient for an article A4044 road (Great Britain) (it's currently a redirect) then I'd say link to that, or if the 20th century article were rewritten to be grouped by road rather than by plan/actual then link to that, but as is neither is a suitable link target. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mattbuck it may not be perfect, but it seems a shame to lose the reference altogether. Can I suggest: 1. Call it the Inner Circuit Road, unlinked, rather than 'a ring road' (which would avoid potential confusion with the other two ring roads); 2. add a
See also: 20th Century Road Schemes in Bristol
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RedSquirrel that sounds good to me. Though see alsos usually go at the heads of sections, so perhaps there instead? -mattbuck (Talk) 19:58, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I have edited this article in two places where it is stated that the station building was destroyed and rebuilt - the current building is part of the original construction. I struggled to find a good way to reword it without making a big deal of it. Here is a good postwar image of the surviving chunk when still in railway use:

http://archives.bristol.gov.uk/GetImage.ashx?db=Catalog&type=default&fname=43207-9-14-043.700x700.jpg

...and this shows the whole thing:

http://archives.bristol.gov.uk/GetImage.ashx?db=Catalog&type=default&fname=44819-3-164.700x700.jpg

I suspect that most of what was destroyed was the Station Master's house, but have no proof. I have seen another image showing the utilitarian postwar extension (on the site of the bit that was destroyed) also in railway use. Period Fireplaces bought the station in (I think!) the early 80s; it was pretty derelict then. RedSquirrel (talk) 09:46, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I was at Network Rail Today and they showed me the proposals for a possible extention of metrowest down to glastonbury and street from yatton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.37.235.165 (talk • contribs)

82.37.235.165 that's great, but have such plans been published anywhere? Is anyone taking them seriously? There used to be a railway there sure, and in principle one could reopen it, but I don't think it's really anything which is being actively considered. The MetroWest website for instance doesn't go beyond the stage 2 reopenings. For Ashton Gate it specifically says it has been ruled out for now. That you saw something is original research and gazing into a crystal ball. The key to Wikipedia is verifiability. Unless a reliable source publishes the plans, we shouldn't include them. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:22, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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As you saw, I have been working my way through the list of deadlinks on the cleanup list for WP:Bristol. I have dealt with quite a few but on Stoke Gifford depot almost all the planning documents on S. Glos council web site used as sources are no longer available - meaning the claims in the article are largely unsupported. As you know more about stations etc around Bristol I wondered if you could help?— Rod talk 18:23, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rodw it's been remarkably hard to source anything for that article, I can't even find a source to say when it opened. I'll take a look later this week but don't expect much. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:43, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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It looks like you've done 99% of the work at Pilning railway station, but weren't the one who nominated it for GA status. It looks like it needs a bit of cleanup (there's an uncited paragraph, and the lede is a bit out of date), but not a huge amount. Would you be interested in getting it to GA - I'm happy to do the review - or not at this time? Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:46, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pi.1415926535 I don't think the article is GA standard, and it was nominated against my wishes. There's a lot of history missing, both ancient and modern. I'll see if I can have a look at it over the next week or something. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:46, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha. If you do decide to get it to GA standards, just let me know. And thanks as always for the effort you put in on railway history - the combination of your research skills and output is rare among editors. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:58, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pi.1415926535 That's very kind of you to say. I am now surrounded by books again, and will hopefully get this together over the next week or so. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pi.1415926535 I think it's probably ready now (though it now fails GA on stability grounds). -mattbuck (Talk) 13:28, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great! I don't think the stability requirement is meant to exclude recent major expansion - I would guess that most GA candidates are the result of that - but of edit-warring or other disagreements about article contents. Ill start the review in the next few days. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:32, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Pi.1415926535 thanks for reviewing, and for poking me to finish the damn thing! -mattbuck (Talk) 23:28, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Pilning railway station

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On 20 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pilning railway station, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that since modernization work in 2016, trains can only call at Pilning railway station when travelling eastbound? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pilning railway station. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pilning railway station), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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It is no longer a class of 50 locomotives, though it was. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, my apologies. I have removed the mention of there being 50 in the first sentence, that should solve things. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Just a note here to avoid massively cluttering up the discussion. I've a couple of books on order .... by Vic Murray if I remember right, the first being "Branch lines around Mitcham junction" and the second "Branch lines around Effingham Junction"; The first should help me understand Sutton to Peckham Rye and the 2nd will cover the Bookham Line. You may have noticed I generally write Irish Railway stuff and stay clear of UK thoug I do a little on Liverpool and Manchester, Birmingham and Gloucester to 1845 and L&YR to 1925; having built up some relevant book sources (some are library loans). In terms of Mole Valley stuff I've got some practical memories commuting over many of the lines in the 2010s but I am perhaps a little rusty/confused to the north east of the east croydon to clapham lines ... however in the case of southern I dont really have any book sources and cant use the libraries in the lockdown. Anyway when I get "Branch lines around Mitcham junction" I'm hoping I might get some information and make a more informed decision/suggestions. Anyway seems like the mileposts towards Dork//Horsham cam down from Raynes Park .... Hmmm.... (In some ways I was hoping they came from Peckham Rye). Thanks and regards - Derek

Djm-leighpark, I'm an expert on Bristol railways, but have been working on a personal project recently which has me delving deep into line diagrams. The mileposts to Dorking are indeed measured from Waterloo, I guess because that's the most direct route. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the 1960's/70's before Portsmouth via Fareham was electricified and there were works on the Portsmouth Direct they used to divert through Chichester and I assume Horsham-Epsom-Wimbledon to Waterloo. I have vague memories of my younger days of the train from Chichester going though Cheam, Epsom, Sutton (20 min) to Victoria, Mitcham J. then through Clapham to Victoria. Bristol I'm more famous on buses than trains but I won't go there ...though the old 08:28 Southern 377 love express from Guildford to Epsom is half a clue (dont think that runs anymore).Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mileposts can be misleading. They generally follow the first route to open but not always the one which is today's the "main" line. You'll be familiar with the mileposts west of Taunton being measured through Bristol even if the majority of trains from Paddington to Devon and Cornwall for the last 110 years have travelled via castle Cary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geof Sheppard (talk • contribs) 16:28, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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"Manual of style is for four-digit years in ranges, and class is fine."

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For year ranges entirely within the century that began in 1900 and ended in 1999, I honestly believe that, for instance, "1989–93" and "1996–97" are neater than "1989–1993" and "1996–1997" respectively, and do the intended job just as fine. The "19" in both "1993" and "1997" genuinely feels superfluous to me.

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Hi 2A02:8084:F1BE:9180:D1D3:6B4E:9DF5:9775, thanks for responding. Regarding the date range, I'm afraid that Wikipedia has a manual of style, and it specifies four-digit years where possible. See MOS:DATERANGE for more info. Regarding the classes I think that simply seeing "101" with a bluelink like that just looks weird, but I'm not aware of any rules on this. I'd suggest looking at how other TOC articles are presented and emulating that. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:16, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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