User talk:DoriSmith/Archive 12
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Why did you remove the list of carriers and also the photos as the photos came off wikimedia and were in copyright? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbbuser (talk • contribs) 04:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- The list of carriers was partly WP:CRYSTAL and entirely unsourced. What was left, after keeping the little bit that was useful, worked just fine as text (versus a list).
- I removed the photos because, as you agree, the photos were in copyright. They've all been deleted from WP:Wikimedia Commons as copyright violations, so they needed to be removed from the article. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 04:48, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
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Not done. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 22:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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Not done. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 22:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
your contact
Dori, thanks for your contact. Myself and another person has been trying to follow all of the guidelines but being novices in the Wikipedia world is making it tough. There is an Article for KICKSTARTER.COM which is a crowdfunding website for artistic projects. FundaGeek.com is a crowdfunding website for Innovative Technical and Scientific Research projects. They are helping inventors & scientific researchers get funding for really good projects. I've been looking for someone who can help me comply with the requirements. The other person who started the article is gone. And they had less of a clue than I do. Do you have any suggestions? NSAIN1947 (talk) 15:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- First off, I recommend that you read WP:Other stuff exists (not to mention that Fundageek hasn't received a fraction of Kickstarter's media attention).
- As for the rest of your questions, I recommend reading what I wrote at User:DoriSmith/onCOI. Not all of it applies here, but the reading recommendations and options for what to do next seem to be applicable. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 22:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestions. I sincerely appreciate your time. FundaGeek launched Nov of last year. Kickstarter started in May of '09. Hopefully as time goes by FG will grow to be as important. I'd like to see brainiactics get a shot at developing their ideas without having to sign them over to a University or mega Corp. It's great to watch Kickstarter help artists of all medias maintain ownership of their creative assets (IP) I will read your recommendations. Thanks again. Regards, NS NSAIN1947 (talk) 22:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
The article had sources to verify so I have removed it
Also, User:Peridon PRODED it previously, so it cannot be PRODED again.
If you think that it isn't notable enough, you can AfD it. Thanks! :) Yasht101 04:43, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
- We had an edit conflict (as you can now see)—I was in the middle of removing it myself. I suspect it will be headed for AFD, as while the article may look at first glance like it has sources, none of them actually are. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 04:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
- And now we've had another one here—give me a minute, okay? Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 04:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
My List
I have created a list and i have included ur name in it. I hope u dont mind that. You can view it over Here! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yasht101 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 23 March 2012
- Note: adding one more datestamp to see if that will make the above archive. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 20:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Dori Smith
I think Dori Smith is vandilising my page and blaming me for it. She has Personally attacked me ! she keeps on ruining my pages — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaThFi (talk • contribs) 11:50, 25 April 2012
- My thoughts re the above:
- my page
Which page are you talking about? If you're referring to Ryan Sharma, it's not your page. If you're referring to User talk:JaThFi, I've done nothing there but add standard User talk page templates:
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, to be precise. - She has Personally attacked me
Diffs, please! Violating the No personal attacks policy is a grave accusation, and one that I'd like to see you document. Personally, I don't believe you can.
- she keeps on ruining my pages
As mentioned above, Ryan Sharma is not your page. But let's look at your most recent changes to it:
- You changed "nationality = British" to "nationality = British (English)". English is a disambiguation page, and articles should not link to them.
- You removed the italics from the book titles. Manual of Style/Titles says that book titles should be italicized.
- You added the statement "'Robert Muchamore has said that there would be a fourth book in the series if CHERUB fans enjoyed the first three.'" That's a claim which requires a source, which you haven't provided. It's probably also a violation of Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.
- You added a section titled "Phisical Appearance" [sic]. Two sentences about a character does not need to be a section of its own.
- You added a "See Also" [sic] section, which included links to characters from other books (unnecessary) and articles already linked in the body (redundant).
- You added a "Source" section, which only linked to a book already linked in both the lead and the infobox.
- You added an "External links" section, which linked to sites that aren't about the subject of the article.
- You added a
{{DEFAULTSORT}}
of "CHERUB", which makes no sense. It should have been "Sharma, Ryan" (or something similar). - You removed the Category:CHERUB characters and replaced it with Category:CHERUB without giving a reason.
- You added Category:Young adult novel series and Category:Junior spy novels, although the topic of the article is not a novel.
- You added nine interlanguage links for an entirely different article.
- Given all the above, yes, I reverted your changes.
- my page
- In general:
- You really need to slow down until you learn a little more about how WP works. The very first thing I added to your talk page was a welcome message with a number of links. If you haven't already, I strongly recommend that you read them.
- I also recommend that you read Edit summary, Using talk pages, and Show preview.
- Basically, work on learning how Wikipedia works—because it does—rather than fighting the process. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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Not done. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 20:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey! I saw this as you introduced the link in Mr's RfA. I also have my criteria, (at least I tried): User:Yasht101/RfA criteria So would you mind if you add that also to your list, if you consider that whatever points I have kept are okay? Yasht101 02:45, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- I just added it for you.
Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 02:47, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Ah..
Thank you Yasht101 02:52, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Ah..
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Not done Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Rebecca D. Costa page
Hi Dori, I added some new references in the biography and I am fine with no photograph. Are we good or do I need to do more? I'm sorry but I am sort of new to this and I can't figure out how to talk on my Talk Page. Thanks for your help. Linda Gulley Linda Gulley (talk) 01:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Moved discussion to User talk:Linda Gulley#Rebecca D. Costa page. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 04:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
My RFA
Hi, I just wanted to leave a note saying thank you for partcipating in my RFA, and your comments will be taken on board and acted upon. Hopfully, I will be of a level you can support in a future RFA. MrLittleIrish (talk) © 13:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Above is in reference to WP:Requests for adminship/Mr little irish. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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Not done Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I have made a change on Unchahar page of wikipedia. Just provided a link (external) for a valid institution website. Hope you will approve. It is not for advertizing purpose, but to provide the information, Vivek — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.146.38 (talk) 18:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- Articles rarely need additional external links, and they never need them in the body of the article itself. I've updated Unchahar to use a wikilink instead (along with some other misc cleanup). Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
New Pages update
Hey DoriSmith/Archive 12 :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.
On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).
On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
A question about the edits you made on my article
Dear Ms. Smith, I am writing to inquire why you changed the content of my article today? It was approved and all my references are verifiable. The changes you made render the content innacurate, and the sentences no longer make sense. Can you please help me bring the article back to the condition it was in at 20:37 on May 8. Your changes appear to have occurred at 23:22, May 8.
Thank you Meredith Lovejoy Dberke220 (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note: answered at User talk:Dberke220 and Talk:Deborah Berke & Partners Architects. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 04:13, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
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Not done Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:54, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
latest changes look good!
Dori, it looks good! Thank you! What can we can do to remove the flags? The public page still shows COI, weasel and other flags related to the verifiability of references.
Thank you so much for your help and input. Meredith at DBA (talk) 13:42, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for moving your comments inline; Proposed additional changes
I'd like to keep working toward a goal of having no comments. I understand I can no longer edit this article. Perhaps I can suggest ways of editing to omit the comments? For instance: Can you please let me know what kind of proof is needed for Berke's 2 partners and principals? A link or reference to the firm's website would show those 4 people, but my understanding is that is not acceptable to the Wikipedia community.
Perhaps we should remove the phrase "creative institutional" - it is a direct quote from a magazine but it can come out if that would improve the sentence and let us be rid of the "buzzword" comment.
As for a third party source needed regarding the firm has won "numerous awards", the rest of the paragraph shows those sources. However, if asserting that the firm has won awards is not appropriate, perhaps remove that sentence and begin the paragraph with the 2nd sentence: "The 21c Museum Hotel...".
Current projects are projects happening right now, as we speak, in 2012. They will be complete over the next 2-3 years respectively. I can provide those dates tomorrow morning if that would be useful?
Thank you again. I am truly grateful to you for your help. 67.85.225.12 (talk) 00:12, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note: responded to this at Talk:Deborah Berke & Partners Architects. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:54, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
blog link
{{admin help}} --Fabysattic (talk) 19:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I am absolutely NOT agree with the answer I received after adding the link to my blog ! I am a collector of barbie and I am very proud to show it ! because there was nothing to find about the barbie Tutti (my favorite), I decided to open a page especially for her, a lot of people were very happy to find some information and were able to complete their collection. There was nothing to find anymore about Tutti after '69, but here in Europe they continued the production. My collection is complete and you will soon see pictures of her with every outfit. I don't understand where the problem is ! the other link "tutti's playhouse" have done the same work as I did and have asked help to complete her blog with pictures of the european outfits for Tutti, and I WILL NOT give her them, she can buy them like I did ! She has the same blog as mine but mine is complete ! So, again, I don't understand why is the link to my blog for the Tutti page not allowed ! my blog is in french but easy to translate ! people could find me on google with writting barbie tutti sets, but now NOT anymore... why ???????????????? because I tried to add the link of my blog ? ! After a few pages it has nothing to do with barbie anymore and my blog is not to find (only with my name) ! and I am not happy with it my blog has nothing to do with promotion or selling !
Fabysattic (talk) 19:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- See WP:EL#ADV: "in line with Wikipedia policies, you should avoid linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent—even if Wikipedia guidelines seem to imply that it may otherwise be linked. When in doubt, you may go to the talk page and let another editor decide. This suggestion is in line with Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest guidelines."
- and WP:ELNO #11 which says that we should not have: "Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc., controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.)"
- User:JohnCD, thanks for handling this for me! Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 23:54, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
blp prods
unsourced BLPs for members of any important sports team, at least from English-speaking countries, can always be sourced. . I consequently removed your BLP prod on Adrian Taylor after adding one of the available refs. You could have done it. It's a lot of work checking the prods, and it needs some degree of cooperation by other people not prodding sourceable articles. That way, I & the very few other admins who have taken the responsibility for patrolling prod, can concentrate on the ones that may be more difficult to source, and more accurately remove the unsourceable. And since many of the prods turn out to be for players who are in fact not notable, the quickest way of removing them is to add the ref, see if they are notable , and prod accordingly. DGG ( talk ) 22:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
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New Page Triage prototype released
Hey DoriSmith! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:39, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
User Ashashyou
I noticed that you replaced the speedy delete notice at Flint stone bracelets and armlets of Egypt with a copyvio investigation notice. Looking at Ashashyou (talk · contribs)'s recent edits, I notice some massive copyvio at Nawamis and more copyvio in other articles recently, mainly reverted. Dougweller (talk) 11:39, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think you're mistaken about the first part—I requested the speedy deletion as a WP:CSD#G12, but User:JohnCD removed it and added the current copyvio note. Why, I don't know.
I noticed the copyvio at Nawamis and Ancient Egypt as well and reverted them both, but someone probably ought to go through much of this guy's past contributions and see how much damage he's caused elsewhere. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 18:25, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Dori, I posted to you in error, that was meant for JohnCD so he knew the background, I'll put it there now. Thanks for your excellent work here. Dougweller (talk) 18:36, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Artical for publication, Nikhil Sen
I have submitted this article. There is no conventional publications which can be quoted as a reference, so I have used my personal interviews with him and a publication of the College (Senior School) that he has help establish and is involved in. Apparently this doesn't satisfy Wikipedia standards for publications. Please advise how I can overcome this difficulty.
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- If there are "no conventional publications which can be quoted as a reference," then there shouldn't be an article on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nikhil Sen. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 02:53, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
"I wouldn't be one bit surprised to find out that he had a few other accounts as well" re:(Bowie Huang 2)
Nor would I. Dori!.
See 110.174.4.210 (talk · contribs) first edit @ 04:58, 13 May 2012. Please see my more detailed comments at Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Archives/Archive11#Likely IP sock evading Indef Ban. Regards, 220 of Borg 01:02, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks—I've started an(other) investigation at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Bowei Huang 2. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 01:57, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Happy to help!
- 220 of Borg 02:02, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Happy to help!
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Wikipedia page User talk:Wietzie Gerber
Hi Dori,
Apologies for causing any inconvenience about the article I was about to create. I was asked by my publisher to create a Wikipedia page, but it seems there must be some misunderstanding, as your policies (and your response to my attempt to create the article) don't seem to cater for that.
If I'm wrong in my assumptions, please let me know.
Warmest regards
Wietzie Gerber — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wietzie Gerber (talk • contribs) 10:27, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sounds to me like you might want to have a talk with your publisher, as they clearly don't know as much about Wikipedia as they think they do. But to answer your question: yes, autobiographies are generally consider to be a Very Bad Idea. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 10:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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James West Fraser
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GEMS Eco City
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Done Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 22:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
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Not done (sorry 'bout that…) Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 22:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Derek - thanks for your patience!
hi Dori,
thanks for your patience. my friends were in super panic mode about getting their page deleted, so I (the newbie) tried to get it cleaned up from a text perspective, (making it objective) but then ran into a reference list issue late last night.
I will ramp up on wiki so I will not screw the page up again, and will be using a good wiki writer to fix everything so the article is worthy of readership and your approval.
I will get on this right away, so please do not delete stew kosoy's page!
thanks again.
derek
Derek3422 (talk) 16:50, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Deletion of Stewart Kosoy isn't up to me; it's up to the discussion and consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stewart Kosoy. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 22:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Dori,
I was reading through your editing of my article William Todd Tribell. I have researched this subject independently but do not understand some of your changes and hope you can elaborate at least for my benefit.
- I can not find any evidence to suggest that he is the CEO of Digital Capital and like the idea but can not substantiate and do not have the experience to suggest that. I couldn't find it anywhere.
- I also can not find the evidence to suggest that he is responsible for Eastern Europe, but in the article cited in reference 4, it says "отвечающий за бизнес Oettinger-Davidoff в СНГ и странах Балтии" (CIS and Baltic States = Former Soviet Union) I believe Eastern Europe encompasses a much larger territory including Poland, Bulgaria, etc. Is this correct?
- Source for verification of point 2 = http://library.ardemgaz.com/ArchiveSearch.asp?SearchWords=todd+tribell&inField=All&SortBy=DateDesc&DocsPerPage=20&eventStartDate=&eventStopDate=&go=+Execute+Search+
- Reference #6 - The author is clearly listed at the bottom of the author - "Cigar Clan 5'2010. Наталья Рыжкова" (Natalya Rizhkova). In reading on this subject to find out about Hendrick Kelner it comes out that he should have a wikipedia page on himself also; maybe we can start one. I will try to work on that in the upcoming days.
- Why did you fail verification of point 12? - which reads in regards to the Childrens Hospital Fund: "in support of children with cancer.... a lion sculpted in Kenya drew 3000 euros. The high bid was made by William Todd Tribell, who represents Davidoff Sigars.... he also donated the sigar box" (mentioned before in the article)
Thanks for answering my questions. NatashaBrun (talk) 06:32, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
P.S. while researching this subject... i have noticed two semi-related articles which are far less documented than that of Tribel. Avo Uvezian and Davidoff which have no citations to speak of and tons of information. Based on your corrections on my article, I dont feel that i have the status in Wikipedia to clean those up but certainly you do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatashaBrun (talk • contribs) 06:48, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Here's the answers, as I see them:
- That's a result of combining this Gamasutra article:
this Gamesindustry.biz article:The company is headed by co-founder Todd Tribell
and this Venturebeat.com article:According to Swiss corporate database Monetas the company currently has three registered employees, including Tribell, Eugene Stewart Kosoy and president Artem Golubchenko
Tribell has no experience in the game industry but will be announcing an unnamed chief operating officer soon
If Tribell heads DCC, and he's not DCC's president or COO, then (imo), he's the CEO—particularly given that all three articles were posted on the same day (1 February 2012). There may be other explanations, but I can't think of one.
- If you take a look at Eastern Europe, it says itself that:
The term has widely disparate geopolitical, geographical, cultural and socioeconomic readings
As the article says later, Poland can be considered to be part of Eastern or Central Europe, and Bulgaria as part of Eastern, Central, or Southeastern Europe. My take: this is all part of the lead, so it's okay to be general—specifics go in the article body.
- Here's all I see at that link:
Personally, I don't see that that is sufficient to support:Car detailer sets up shop in parking deckByline: NEWS Arkansas Inc. Todd Tribell is back. And he's downtown in the new parking deck at the north end of Main Street, in essence helping Metrocentre Improvement District enhance the services of its two new pa…
Less than three years later, he relocated the business to Little Rock's Main Street to enhance the services in the area and show his support for the vision of a revived Downtown area.
There's a number of problems here (again, imo): "back" usually means that someone went away; a car detailer working out of a parking structure normally would sound to me like just a couple of guys with buckets and rags; and there's nothing about "relocation" or "a revived Downtown area"; etc.
There's a couple of reasons here: First, note that the date next to Natalya Rizhkova's name at the bottom of the article isn't the same as the article date. So what is it? Well, if you take a look at other articles on their site, such as this one, and scroll down to the bottom, you can see that that's the credit for the images, not the credit for the writer. The author name is over on the right-hand side: "Hendrik Kelner." Or at least that's the way it reads to me.
- Okay, here's your translation:
I don't see how that supports:in support of children with cancer… a lion sculpted in Kenya drew 3000 euros. The high bid was made by William Todd Tribell, who represents Davidoff Cigars… he also donated the cigar box
After Estonia's independence from the Soviet Union, Tribell was an early supporter of the Tallinn Children's Hospital Foundation where during its infancy, he introduced the foundation to members of the corporate community who he encouraged, by example, to donate both time and money.
Given that Estonia declared their independence in 1988 and this event took place twelve years later, it doesn't make him "an early supporter", nor does donating one item to and purchasing one item at a single charity auction describe "[introducing] the foundation to members of the corporate community" or an encouragement of them to donate time. Perhaps that's all in the other Estonian article, but I don't have access to it.
- That's a result of combining this Gamasutra article:
- The answer to your PS is covered by Other stuff exists—just because hundreds of crappy articles exist doesn't mean that others get a pass. The good news: everybody's got to start somewhere, so feel free to jump in and start fixing things!
Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 07:58, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Your reply, refactored for legibility (it broke the numbering & didn't wrap):
I looked at the swiss database you mentioned and continued further from their link to the official register here: http://www.hrazg.ch/webservices/inet/HRG/HRG.asmx/getHRGHTML?amt=170&toBeModified=0&validOnly=0&lang=1&sort=0&chnr=CH17030364042 It says that he is a member of the board - not employee. Only the article call him a co-founder.
ok - fair enough
I have re-read the entire article. Apparently, you are partially right. He sold the business before to someone else and it "ceased to be" in some time. He re-registered the company and made a deal with some officials to re-open it in that Downtown area. According to the article he moved to that area to live as well which is what gave me the impression i mentioned: "To show support and enthusiasm for his downtown adventure, Tribell has moved into the downtown historic district". According to the article, he had a real business etc. I also found records with the local government there that support that he had a real business. The article mentioned the business was subcontracted by a city contractor, so i am guessing that was a real business. It also mentioned he had four employees working for him, so logically if he was working with the city at arms length and he had empolyees, it had to be real.
I looked at this again, lucky for me; I am half Russian - so i can read those pages... The right hand side you refer to is a promotion for a blog. I looked at other articles and found different authors for different ones. I will leave that up to you.
Estonia was only separated from Russia in reality in 1994. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/en.html I am not trying to indicate that he was an early supporter of Estonian independence (maybe my bad) but rather that he was actively supporting the Childrens hospital at a time that no body cared about anything other than stealing land and factories from the government. Even today, even teh rich dont care about charity in these countries unless it is convenient. I know i cant include this, but it is known that he gave money to the hospital then and worked with a member of parliament to get big companies like Coca Cola and MacDonalds involved; according to the former director there. I will try to re-write this to make more sense to you.
- Your reply, refactored for legibility (it broke the numbering & didn't wrap):
- I was thinking to start the 'Hendrik Kelner' i mentoned earlier. There is a good amount of info on him. Maybe you could collaborate with me to give me guidance once i get something up? This wikipedia stuff takes a lot more time than i thought and is somehow a little addictive. You seem to be really experienced and have obviously been doing this for a long time. Also, if you ever need help with Russian language, let me know... NatashaBrun (talk) 10:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)