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[edit]I've just reverted several of your edits - one was a colloquial and trivial addition to Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation; another was the addition of a non-notable person to the Scott Albert disambiguation page. I'll post a welcome message with several useful links about how the encyclopedia works, and what material is appropriate to it - in the meantime I suggest you slow down a bit until you get the hang of things. Thanks! JohnInDC (talk) 23:33, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- I have now just sought speedy deletion of an article you created about a non-notable hotel in New Jersey, created since you saw the above and added the facetious barnstar to my Talk page. Please stop adding nonsense to the encyclopedia. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 01:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- If you're going to add the periodic table of the elements as a reference to the article for every element, at least please take care to put the reference adjacent to the period of the preceding sentence, and put one or two spaces following it. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- how do you add the supperscript stating citation needed?Doorknob747 01:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- If you're going to add the periodic table of the elements as a reference to the article for every element, at least please take care to put the reference adjacent to the period of the preceding sentence, and put one or two spaces following it. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Please stop mass-adding a general reference on Periodic Table. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 01:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Please see WP:Overlink and stop adding massive links to every day / previously linked words. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 11:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think what you need to do is, rather than scan random articles for things that you think need to be linked; or scanning articles for things that you think need to be *un*linked, you should take a vacation from editing and read some of the links in the introductory message I posted a few days ago. Editing for its own sake - technical tweaks, just to make edits - is not a particularly good way to improve the encyclopedia. JohnInDC (talk) 20:44, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
so i have to propose an edit idea and get approval for the edit by other Wikipedia users. I didn't know that.
- I looked at your edit to Rope, thanks for talking to me about it, but I reverted it because the article is about ropes made from fibers, not from metal ("metal ropes" are "cables") and suspension bridges are made from cables, not fiber ropes. And even if there is some suspension bridge somewhere made from fiber ropes, it is not a common use. JohnInDC (talk) 22:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]Please slow down a bit with all the references you're adding. I'm not sure how many of them are actually reliable sources; others - like the Diners Club promotion - really aren't appropriate. I'm also not sure of links to dictionaries or encyclopedias. You might ask at WP:EAR for tips on what kinds of references to add. JohnInDC (talk) 22:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
R160s on the R train
[edit]Hi. I know that there are R160s that occasionally run on the R train because I saw one myself. However, I have reverted for now because your edit broke the template. Per consensus at the associated project, rolling stock information must be supported by reliable sources along with everything else that must be properly cited. Epicgenius (talk) 22:27, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]Dude, just a tip, speak proper English. That's the policy of Wikipedia. Saying "the few F trains that run on the R46" doesn't make any sense at all. It's like you're saying that the R46 is a train route/service and the F is a car type or something. The F is a train route/service and the R46 is the type of car that it uses. Again, speak proper English. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 16:43, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
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Your edit to Microsoft Windows
[edit]Hi, I'm jeh (talk · contribs). I noticed that you added a great many internal links ("Wikilinks") to this article. I have reverted your edit because I feel most of those WLs were unnecessary. Not every word or term that has a WP article should be Wikilinked from every article in which it appears. We do have some existing guidelines on this; please see WP:OVERLINK. I feel most of your links fell afoul of the first item there: "everyday words understood by most readers in context" should not be linked. As it says on that page, too many links make it difficult for the reader to identify links that are likely to significantly aid in understanding. Also, most terms should only be linked from an article once. Thank you for your consideration. Jeh (talk) 07:05, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Supercar category
[edit]Before you spend a lot of time adding the Category: Super cars to articles, please note that I have tagged the category for speedy deletion. The classification of "supercar" is not used on Wikipedia per WP:AUCL. Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 17:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- That does not make sense since a supercar is a class of a car, what you are trying to say is something similar to a category like cars with doors that can lift, that is a class, but according to what you are saying it is not a class, also if there is no such thing as a super car classification, then the wikipedia age called supercar should also be marked for speedy deletion. Also, if you look on the info boxes of all the super cars it says, type/classification , supper car. Are you saying those too should be removed. All I am saying is what you are baseing the action you took on the category page, is base on a statement that has no citations or sources stating that a super car is not a classification. So technically this action that you took is based of unsourced material. Super car is a real term and classification according to dictionaries. Doorknob747 17:09, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- If you disagree with Wikipedia's guidelines at WP:AUCL, you should discuss it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles/Conventions and Category talk:Super cars to try to get the guidelines changed. However, currently "supercar" is too vague a classification on Wikipedia. Also, if an article infobox states supercar, then yes, it should be changed (and generally is) until WP:AUCL is changed. Bahooka (talk) 17:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Re your message: It is far too early for you to become an admin at this time. You do not currently have the experience required to pass an RfA with just under 600 edits. What you need to become an admin is broad experience in one of the areas that admins deal with. I suggest you read the guide at Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship and the essay Wikipedia:Advice for RfA candidates. They give a good overview of what you need to do. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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- I've deleted this page. It does not belong in mainspace because it is not an article. It looks like you are trying to create a a barnstar. Pages like this belong in project space (Wikipedia:Name) or in template space. I recommend you post at WP:Wikiproject Automobiles or WP:BARNSTAR and get guidance from other members. Furthermore, please note that you can't say that ONLY certain people can hand out a barnstar. That will get your page deleted. Karanacs (talk) 21:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Note that we do not generally have categories based on barnstars that are given out. Any category you create like that will most likely be deleted. and PLEASE sign your posts with ~~~~ Karanacs (talk) 21:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Tagging
[edit]Please stop adding tags to articles. They are not helping anything. Ask at WP:HELPDESK for technical issues, and perhaps someone at WP:TEAHOUSE could offer suggestions. Johnuniq (talk) 23:18, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
- Most of the tags that you are adding are not necessary. Tags are never required. Sometimes they are useful, to let people know that there are issues with an article that they may not have otherwise noticed. The tags you are adding are either wrong (you don't put a "lead needs improvement" tag on a stub article that doesn't have a lead) or obvious (a one-sentence section should be expanded, if possible). I second the recommendation that you find yourself at mentor at the WP:TEAHOUSE, and that you ask at WP:HELPDESK to fix your signing issue, because that is becoming highly annoying. Let the people at the teahouse know what type of editing you are interested in, and then they can help you get involved more appropriately. Please do not respond on my talk page, I am watching yours. If you want to call someone over to your talk page, you can ping them by typing {{u|username}}. Karanacs (talk) 01:51, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- I would add that excessive tagging, even if every single tag can be individually justified by WP policy or guidelines, can be determined to be disruptive and can therefore get you blocked. (And note that guidelines are not requirements.) Jeh (talk) 02:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Please do not create empty talk pages
[edit]If you have something to say and there is no talk page yet, fine. But please do not create an empty talk page, as you did here, here, here, here, here, and many others, just so those pages will have talk pages. It appears that in your eagerness to contribute you are fixing many things that are not broken. The same is true of your tag-bombing. Please stop, and please take a little time to learn how things are done on WP before jumping in headlong with both feet. Thank you for your consideration. Jeh (talk) 02:06, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Referencing the first sentence
[edit]I appreciate that you are trying to improve the encyclopedia. However, you need to understand that you are coming into a project that has been ongoing for many, many years and has established a very large set of established practices. Requiring that the first sentence of the lede be referenced to a dictionary entry is not among them. Remember, per WP:V, references are only required for material that has been challenged or is likely to be challenged. The opening sentence is hardly likely to be challenged, as the entire rest of the article will back it up, with refs (if it doesn't, the article has far more serious problems than lack of a ref for the first sentence). Particularly for articles like Door, Orchestra, etc.
I would also point out that while WP:V and WP:RS are policy, some of the other things you seem to have decided are "rules", like the minimum length of a section, are not. They are guidelines or even essays. Heck, even some policies can be overridden where there is good justification.
In general, if you have an idea about how WP articles should be written, formatted, etc., but you find that a large number of articles don't seem to follow your idea.. the problem is probably not with the articles, but rather with your understanding of WP policies, guidelines, and conventions. Just going in and editing every such article you encounter to match your idea is considered disruptive. It looks like you just found a rule and now are eagerly looking for articles that break it, so you can "contribute" by tagging it for improvement. Of course, such action is sometimes justified. But in almost all cases it would be better to put your suggestion in the form of a question on the article talk page, where more experienced editors can answer, before the article itself is changed.
For example, your question on the talk page at template:Orchestra was perfect. And thank you also there for signing your edit comment. (n.b.: The edit summary for a new talk page doesn't have to say "created talk page",that will be evident from the N in the edit history. In that particular case, "question re linking section labels" would have been a terrific edit summary.) (also n.b.: The answer to your question there might well be different for different templates.)
Sorry if I seem to be picking on you, but you've done minor damage to many articles that are on my watchlist, so naturally I look at your edit history to see what else you've done; many editors do that after they notice problem edits. (If I were doing it for the primary purpose of making your experience on WP unpleasant, that would fall afoul of WP:HOUNDING, but I'm not.) Thank you for your understanding. (I hope you understand!) I'll try to give it a rest now. Cheers... Jeh (talk) 09:49, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Reciprocating electric motor
[edit]Hello Doorknob747. There is a move to delete your article Reciprocating electric motor but I am trying to resist it and I have expanded the article. Could you please have a look at the article and see what you think of my additions. Biscuittin (talk) 11:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Doorknob747. I am planning to re-write part of Reciprocating electric motor to try to satisfy the critics. Please let me know if you think I have changed it too much. Please reply here (on your own talk page) so we keep all the correspondence in one place. Biscuittin (talk) 09:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- Amazing! Somebody else has done it for me. Biscuittin (talk) 09:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- I think the article is now looking really good. Thanks for creating it. Biscuittin (talk) 10:35, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- Amazing! Somebody else has done it for me. Biscuittin (talk) 09:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
59th Street – Columbus Circle incident
[edit]I appreciate the addition, but I have removed it for now. It is not that notable, as subway incidents go (compare this incident to the 2005 fire at the WTC station, the Fix&Fortify work on the R train, or the 9/11 closures of the subway). Epic Genius (talk) 03:16, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]There is a guideline (WP:MULTI) but common sense should be sufficient to understand that posting essentially the same message at multiple locations is not desirable. Everyone has problems, and it would be nice if others would fix those problems, and nicer if they would do it right now. But we must resist the temptation to spam people about issues, particularly when the issues are not related to improving the encyclopedia. I am referring to messages like these—please don't do that. Johnuniq (talk) 00:29, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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[edit] Please do not add or change content, as you did to Gundam Build Fighters Try, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Please do not use fan sites such as MAHQ as your references to your edits. Areaseven (talk) 15:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Hey =)
[edit]I wanted to just say thank you for joining the anime and manga wikiproject. I have noticed other editors here are just giving you constructive criticism. I believe in WP:BITE, and want to say that I hope you aren't taking what they say personally. Anyways, I love anime and manga here and there are a whole lot of fan websites I would love to include in the articles. The problem is that when you really love a series your view may be different than another person's view on the same thing (WP:NPOV). So when it comes to fan sites if we link them in the article we here are accepting that the person who wrote the website is right.
Another thing to consider is notability, what is notability? Notability here on Wikipedia is a key thing, as sad as it is some people's opinions online ARE more important than others. For example, editors here are more likely to go with a source posted by someone who works in the anime industry rather than a blogger. I invite you to look here --> WP:A&M/RS these sources over time have deemed to be reliable and useful to the project. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:14, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- This is not an appropriate edit summary. "can someone help me find a verifyable proof for this huge animerlsndusbxjebxh i fuck and fuck industry suprise in gundam series". DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 18:32, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Can we get that summary hidden? It looks terrible. —KirtZMessage 15:34, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
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[edit] Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Areaseven (talk) 15:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:51, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Im sorry if you feel your project is being rejected but you cant edit war here. I think you should explain the proposal a bit more before you post it if it is removed again. Remember more than 3 reverts or undoing of edits made by other editors on the same page in a 24 hour period can and do result in blocks. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:51, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
ANI
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- I have chosen not to post at ANI again regarding your mistakes just be careful in the future is all and have a listen to what other editors are telling you. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Tips
[edit]Please stop putting photographs into articles. You clearly have no idea what you're doing, how to do it, where they should go, and how they should be captioned.
- Not every photograph you take is worthwhile uploading to Commons. Some of them seem random and have no real subject. Take a look at the photos you take and be selective about which ones you upload.
- Not every image you upload needs to go into an article. You should never be asking the question "Which article should I put this in?" If the image doesn't cry out to be in an article, don't force it into one.
- Not every article needs more images. Look at the images already in the article. If yours isn't in some way better than the ones that are there, or doesn't cover a part of the article's subject that isn't already covered, don't put your image in the article.
- The name of a photograph is not what the caption of a photograph should be. The caption should describe what's in the photo, in relation to the subject of the article. An image with a non-descriptive caption can be worthless.
- Do not alter photographs in a way that actively misrepresents what's in them, like turning an "F" train into an "L" train for no reason that I can see. Photographs are taken by people, so they can't help but have a viewpoint, and we are allowed to adjust them in ways that makes it easier for the reader to see what we're trying to present, but photographs should should never lie, and an "L" train that was never an "L" train is a lie. Do not be deceptive with your images.
One other thing, not about images: don't correct misspelling if you don't actually know how to spell the word in question, and don't change words unless you are absolutely certain that the change you are going to make improves the writing. Please do not consider that what pops into your head to do is automatically a good thing, think about it before you actually do it. BMK (talk) 20:21, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Please read these two pages, or have an adult explain them to you: WP:competence is required and WP:Wikipedia is not therapy. BMK (talk) 20:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. At least one of your recent edits, such as the edit you made to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at the welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make some test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page.Please only discuss policy and conduct issues if you are familiar with Wikipedia guidelines and how noticeboards function. Liz Read! Talk! 16:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Topic ban on AN and ANI threads that do not directly concern you
[edit]Regarding your request on my talk page: I don't know enough about you to close that ANI thread, and I'm not going to wade through it. I suspect if I did, I might block you from editing, but that's an initial impression.
But I have seen enough to tell you not to comment on WP:ANI and WP:AN threads that do not already directly concern you, or I will block you from editing. You're giving too much incorrect information/advice, and complicating threads that don't affect you. You need to focus on the fact that a lot of people are saying your edits are a problem, and not focus on other people's problems. This is not closing the ANI thread about you; some other admin will come along and determine whether other actions need to be taken.
Also, you should stop editing Wikipedia from your phone; according to you, it's causing problems, and according to everyone else, they're having to clean it up. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
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Welcome!
[edit]Hi. I'm another member of the Anime Wikiproject. I'm glad you've decided to come back. :) Honestly, it can be a bit rough trying to learn all the ropes, so I wanted to suggest the very friendly Teahouse, which was developed especially with new editors in mind, as a resource for you. Best wishes, Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 16:35, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
ANI
[edit]This is not helpful. Weren't you recently advised to avoid ANI? Please heed that advice and concentrate on learning the basics. Tiderolls 03:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- Now that I have read further I see you have been banned from ANI. My advice is that you remove those posts that have no responses and strike through those posts with responses. Otherwise you risk a block. Pleas act immediately. Tiderolls 03:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with Tide rolls, you need to strike your comments and let Floquenbeam know that you won't do it again. When an admin tells you that you are banned from doing something, it's a serious thing, and you must follow their directions - it's mandatory. BMK (talk) 04:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- I have struck out all your comments on AN/I, as an interim measure, and have added a comment indicating that you are not allowed to comment on *AN/I thread that do not concern you*. I will repeat this action if you comment again, at least until an admin is aware of the situation and blocks you from editing. BMK (talk) 04:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with Tide rolls, you need to strike your comments and let Floquenbeam know that you won't do it again. When an admin tells you that you are banned from doing something, it's a serious thing, and you must follow their directions - it's mandatory. BMK (talk) 04:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
@Liz:@Beyond My Ken:@Black Kite:@NeilN:@Materialscientist:@Tide rolls:@Floquenbeam:I bolded those words. This is what may have caused confusion and the outcome, I am not responsible. Beyond My Ken is. Astricks insteadDoorknob747 (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Doorknob, please edit some articles. Editing the admin noticeboard isn't helping your case. What we do need are editors who add content to articles. Epic Genius (talk) 16:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi DK747, I'm not sure if you just forgot or were testing the boundaries, but to be clear, yes I was serious. Thanks for removing your comments there, that makes me more confident you won't forget again. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam:@Epicgenius:@Tide rolls:@Beyond My Ken:Can someone tell me or teach me how to make a archive for my talk page?Doorknob747 (talk) 01:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- Move what you need to archive to the page User talk:Doorknob747/Archive 1. Epic Genius (talk) 01:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam:@Epicgenius:@Tide rolls:@Beyond My Ken:Can someone tell me or teach me how to make a archive for my talk page?Doorknob747 (talk) 01:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hi DK747, I'm not sure if you just forgot or were testing the boundaries, but to be clear, yes I was serious. Thanks for removing your comments there, that makes me more confident you won't forget again. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- Doorknob, please edit some articles. Editing the admin noticeboard isn't helping your case. What we do need are editors who add content to articles. Epic Genius (talk) 16:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Apologies, DK747. I've been distracted. Like Epicgenius says; simply move what you want to the properly named page. It's cumbersome, but I manually archive. You can check around, there are bots available for archiving. I'm old, however, so I opt for the old fashioned way. Tiderolls 14:28, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam:@Epicgenius:@Tide rolls:@Beyond My Ken:Am I allowed to comment on anything in the ANI TALK page?Doorknob747 (talk) 14:09, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Usually a ban means broadly constructed so no, the admin might see it okay if someone is harassing you or the like but that doesn't belong on the talkpage. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- ? idont get what you are saying?Doorknob747 (talk) 14:36, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- nw got a hang on how to do same time edits. :D
- In other words, stay away from ANI and stick to editing articles unless you have a serious problem you want to report. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:37, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Knowledgekid87 dod bird was a serious problem and still is.
- The admin can handle it, focus on yourself for now. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:39, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Knowledgekid87 dod bird was a serious problem and still is.
- In other words, stay away from ANI and stick to editing articles unless you have a serious problem you want to report. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:37, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- nw got a hang on how to do same time edits. :D
April 2015
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Doorknob747 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
That mess up was caused by accident. The discussion that I added was since the problem was not resovlved yet. So I wanted to place it back in the notice board. I tried to place it back in but, a notice came up stating that there is another edit saved. So I went to the bootom of the page copied the code and replaced it with the code on top. I thought that by doing this it would add the previously saved edit and add the section since it said your text( I thought it was the entire code of the page with my code added with the previously saved edit. Its my bad, but the problem does relate to me. So, can you unblock me? Doorknob747 (talk) 14:32, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You are banned from AN. You edited AN. You were blocked. Did you expect some other result? --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:09, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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@Black Kite: please look at this. Doorknob747 (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC) @Liz:Are u a adimin? If so can you help?Doorknob747 (talk) 14:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC) @Materialscientist:Can you help?Doorknob747 (talk) 14:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Door I think enough admin have been pinged already, you will get your request looked at. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:56, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Knowledgekid87:My dreams of ever becoming admin are ruined. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:05, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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Doorknob747 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Yes, it said I was banned from anything 'UNRELATED' to me. The dodo bird incident was related to me. Also, before the account block I created the Other IP section, and no one thought that it violated the block. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:12, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Clearly, you were mistaken about this. I suggest you wait out the remainder of your block. PhilKnight (talk) 18:56, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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- @Beyond My Ken:YOU TOLD ME THAT I CAN EDIT STUFF ON ani THAT RELATES, TO ME!!!!! You either were wrong or if you knew lied to me! If you lied to me I am not responsible, you are the one responsible for that messup, and revoking the possibility of me ever becoming admin. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I ask that a admin brings this up to ANI, that there was a huge misunderstanding somewhere that led to this, and to get back the right for me to ever become admin. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Door my advice is to just take your 12 hour block and learn from your mistake. If you want to take this up with an admin on their talkpage to ask them questions regarding your ban once you are unblocked feel free. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:37, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Knowledgekid87:Where you ever blocked?Doorknob747 (talk) 15:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, for a longer time in fact I moved on and so should you. Stay away from ANI that is all editors are asking of you. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Knowledgekid87:How long and for what? Also, "all editors" make a correction cause Beyond My Ken is not in that list. Did you see above?Doorknob747 (talk) 15:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Nick:The only reason why I am doing this and want to get blocked as soon as possible is so that an admin can put the issue on ANI today, and gets the issue resolved today. Beyond My Ken comes on 5pm-7 pm according to time at New York City, and those timings are before the block ends. If this block was set in place at 4am, I would not mind waiting.
- @Knowledgekid87:How long and for what? Also, "all editors" make a correction cause Beyond My Ken is not in that list. Did you see above?Doorknob747 (talk) 15:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, for a longer time in fact I moved on and so should you. Stay away from ANI that is all editors are asking of you. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Knowledgekid87:Where you ever blocked?Doorknob747 (talk) 15:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Door my advice is to just take your 12 hour block and learn from your mistake. If you want to take this up with an admin on their talkpage to ask them questions regarding your ban once you are unblocked feel free. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:37, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I ask that a admin brings this up to ANI, that there was a huge misunderstanding somewhere that led to this, and to get back the right for me to ever become admin. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken:YOU TOLD ME THAT I CAN EDIT STUFF ON ani THAT RELATES, TO ME!!!!! You either were wrong or if you knew lied to me! If you lied to me I am not responsible, you are the one responsible for that messup, and revoking the possibility of me ever becoming admin. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
hmm interesting edit using twinkle is working, only bot justr comes romve it and the edt summary saying you are still banned? Is this a Wikipedia easter egg?Doorknob747 (talk) 16:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Two things:
- 1. I'm suspicious as to why you feel so passionate about becoming an administrator. It's certainly not something to "dream" about. Being an administrator takes balls as it can put you in a position where you make unpopular decisions, piss people off, and leave the whole "creating content concept" of Wikipedia at the door whilst you run around wiping people's arse's and clearing up petty squabbles. I would consider it to be more of a chore than a cheer and a position that certainly doesn't win you any friends.
- 2. How can you blame BMK for "making you" post at ANI when you have been specifically warned not to. What did BMK do, hold a revolver to your head or something? CassiantoTalk 17:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Cassianto:He told me im only banned ANI on talking about things not involving me, and that I am not banned from talking about things related to me. The dodo bird incident was related to @Epicgenius:, me, and other users, since that user vandalized our talkpages and user pages using sock puppetry. Look in previous topic or topic above that, where I pinged lots of admins under a sentence where @BMK: said that. So I thought since it relates to me no one would mind. BMK gave me wrong info, and got me banned. Also, Once a user is banned they no longer can be admin, someone told me. Doorknob747 (talk) 17:58, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- As far as I can see BMK did not "get you banned". You are responsible for your own actions being an adult (I assume?), so if you weren't sure you should've asked first. You could have then used the diff as proof that you were acting innocently and as a result of wrongly given advice. Finally, take my advice, stop pinging people as it gets quite irritating. If they want to comment, they will. CassiantoTalk 18:03, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Cassianto:How would I know if he was right or wrong? Its not like I read how ANI block works? I thought when BMK said that only for topics not relating to me im baned from, I thought he knew enough about the subject. Not only that but, there were few users that said BMK as right. Also, no one said or told me that BMK was not correct. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Like I said, you should've sought concrete clarification first. Everything you are saying is based on a subjective error on your part. "I thought", "how would I know if..." etc is language that suggests that you are doubtful about something. Next time, be certain rather than unsure and you will find this won't happen again. CassiantoTalk 18:14, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Cassianto:What is a concrete clarification? never heard of that word, even though I am in college. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Concrete clarification = Solid answer; ie, the correct information with no ambiguity. CassiantoTalk 18:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- In essence, nothing is unclear. Anyway, the correct term is "blocked", not "banned". Anyway, Doorknob, you shouldn't have posted to the admin's noticeboard at all if it would get you in trouble. Epic Genius (talk) 19:12, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's why "banned" was in quotes. Please don't tell me you needed that explaining to you? CassiantoTalk 08:08, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- In essence, nothing is unclear. Anyway, the correct term is "blocked", not "banned". Anyway, Doorknob, you shouldn't have posted to the admin's noticeboard at all if it would get you in trouble. Epic Genius (talk) 19:12, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Concrete clarification = Solid answer; ie, the correct information with no ambiguity. CassiantoTalk 18:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Cassianto:What is a concrete clarification? never heard of that word, even though I am in college. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Like I said, you should've sought concrete clarification first. Everything you are saying is based on a subjective error on your part. "I thought", "how would I know if..." etc is language that suggests that you are doubtful about something. Next time, be certain rather than unsure and you will find this won't happen again. CassiantoTalk 18:14, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Cassianto:How would I know if he was right or wrong? Its not like I read how ANI block works? I thought when BMK said that only for topics not relating to me im baned from, I thought he knew enough about the subject. Not only that but, there were few users that said BMK as right. Also, no one said or told me that BMK was not correct. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- As far as I can see BMK did not "get you banned". You are responsible for your own actions being an adult (I assume?), so if you weren't sure you should've asked first. You could have then used the diff as proof that you were acting innocently and as a result of wrongly given advice. Finally, take my advice, stop pinging people as it gets quite irritating. If they want to comment, they will. CassiantoTalk 18:03, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Cassianto:He told me im only banned ANI on talking about things not involving me, and that I am not banned from talking about things related to me. The dodo bird incident was related to @Epicgenius:, me, and other users, since that user vandalized our talkpages and user pages using sock puppetry. Look in previous topic or topic above that, where I pinged lots of admins under a sentence where @BMK: said that. So I thought since it relates to me no one would mind. BMK gave me wrong info, and got me banned. Also, Once a user is banned they no longer can be admin, someone told me. Doorknob747 (talk) 17:58, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Comment about topic ban
[edit]- (edit conflict with PhilKnight's decline) This is a bit of a mess. Yes, you are correct that the topic ban from AN/ANI was for threads that don't directly concern you. So Black Kite and the two unblock declines may have misread that. But (and I mean this in the nicest possible way) you've been a bit of a bull in a china shop lately, causing quite a bit of headache and hassle for other people. Blanking the entire ANI page for example. I know you didn't mean to, but you did it. Reopening a thread that was pretty much as resolved as it's going to get, as another example. Pinging everybody on the planet, as a third example.
- In general, you need to:
- Slow down
- Focus more on article building and less on AN/ANI and sockpuppets.
- Stop pinging so many people so often
- It looks to me like your block - a short, attention-getting one - was for disruption in general, and Black Kite's mis-reading of my ban from ANI only a secondary reason. Addressing that is the most important thing, much much more important than getting unblocked 6 hours early. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam:Sorrey for disturbing you but can you get rid of that nussance that just edited my page?Doorknob747 (talk) 22:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Things to do
[edit]- ask admin to put this on ANI. Doorknob747 (talk) 16:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- get back my possibility of ever becoming admin. :(
- Well, the first one probably won't happen since you are topic banned anyway. Epic Genius (talk) 17:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius:I said if a admin can post it there. Doorknob747 (talk) 17:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @OccultZone:Get more admins to see this incorrect blocking!!!!!!!!!!Doorknob747 (talk) 17:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius:I said if a admin can post it there. Doorknob747 (talk) 17:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Well, the first one probably won't happen since you are topic banned anyway. Epic Genius (talk) 17:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I just checked that there was an authorized topic ban on you. Just say that you have learned from your mistake and next time you won't ignore any warning ever again, or in fact you won't need a warning in this matter. That's all. Time is running out, better if you do it now. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- What topic ban? I never got any notice on topic ban only on ANI where BMK said that I can talk about things relating to me. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- There's a notice about topic ban a few steps up on this page, your talk page, it even has "Topic ban" as its heading. Don't you read the messages you get? Thomas.W talk 18:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- What topic ban? I never got any notice on topic ban only on ANI where BMK said that I can talk about things relating to me. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I just checked that there was an authorized topic ban on you. Just say that you have learned from your mistake and next time you won't ignore any warning ever again, or in fact you won't need a warning in this matter. That's all. Time is running out, better if you do it now. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
@Cassianto:I have learned from BMK's mistake and next time I won't ignore any warning ever again, or in fact I won't need a warning in this matter. UNBAN? But, still want someone to put this on ANI. BMK and multiple users gave me a wrong impression, which I considered right. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I would take Occult's advice here as he gave you a way to move forward. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:32, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
@Knowledgekid87:All I want is BMK to say sorry and I will move on, and I already did what occult told me and im still banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Doorknob747 (talk) 18:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- fine I drop it but I want myself unbaned from tempory ban now!18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)Doorknob747 (talk) 18:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
@OccultZone:I did what u asked and I am still blocked.
- And STOP PINGING PEOPLE, all you achieve by all that pinging is pissing people off. You're not the most important thing in the world to people here, so just be quiet and sit out your block. Thomas.W talk 18:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
You have to calm down, Doorknob747. It is only a 12 hour block but if you keep acting disruptively, you will receive a much longer block. If you truly want to be an admin one day, you'll have to act in a more mature, adult manner. 18:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- For heavens' sake, DK, it's only for 12 hours, three of which are already up. And if you keep acting like a small child with a temper tantrum it is not going to get any shorter. Go play outside for a while or something, burn off that angry energy. Wikipedia will still be here when your block expires. Jeh (talk) 19:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
weird question if wikifounder started vandalizing would he get banned?
[edit]just crossed my mind and wanted to ask. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- then he would be blocked too. Epic Genius (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Twelve points
[edit]Doorknob747:
- I am not now, nor have I ever been an admin.
- The topic ban that was placed on you by Floquenbeam is on this page at #Topic ban on AN and ANI threads that do not directly concern you
- It says:
...I have seen enough to tell you not to comment on WP:ANI and WP:AN threads that do not already directly concern you, or I will block you from editing. You're giving too much incorrect information/advice, and complicating threads that don't affect you.
- If you believed that you were incorrectly blocked under the terms of that topic ban, you should have politely pointed the blocking admin, and the reviewing admins, to the specific terms of the ban
- Which is not to say that if you were disrupting AN/I -- I have not looked at your edits there -- you could still be blocked (not "banned") just for the disruption, even if it took place in a thread that concerned you (I see that this is how Floquenbeam interpreted Black Kite's block as well here.)
- What you should not do is run around like a chicken with its head cut off pinging every editor you've ever had contact with
- As several people have said above, a 12 hour block is a very minor sanction, simply go do something else for half a day and don't even open Wikipedia
- As for your becoming an admin, I'm sorry to say that if that was ever going to happen, it would be far, far in the future for you.
- What will stop you from becoming an admin at that time is not a 12-hour block when you were wet behind the ears, but not having a solid record of productive contributions to the encyclopedia. As Epicgenius and others have been trying to tell you, that is where your focus should be when your block is up, as it will be quite soon.
- We all take seriously our roles here, and we all try, to the best of our abilities, to follow the rules and policies of Wikipedia. Because we are human, we all fail at one time or another, but Wikipedia is a forgiving place (maybe too forgiving at times), and this minor block will not be held against you. What will be held against you is if you don't settle down, learn the ropes, and became a productive editor.
- No one here can see inside your head, so we can only judge you by your outward behavior. There comes a point where being a clueless newbnie -- which, let's be frank, is what you are right now -- is indistinguishable from being a troll. You are perilously close to that point. You are starting to look less and less like someone who needs the kind of advice you're receiving on this page, and the kind of person who disrupts the peace for the sake of the "fun" of the chaos that ensues.
- Only you can change that, and you do it by learning as quickly as you can how to edit productively. Less commenting, less bells and whistles on your user page, more improving of the encyclopedia.
That's my advice to you. I hope things turn out for the best. Please do not ping me again. BMK (talk) 20:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I would add that in the topic ban text, the word "already" is of paramount importance. This seems to me to preclude DK's creating any threads, even threads concerning himself, as well as his commenting in any existing threads, unless they already concern him. That's just my interpretation. However it is also the most conservative, and therefore safest, interpretation. Jeh (talk) 20:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that was Floquenbeam's intent, but you are correct that the ban does read that way, and in my restatement of the ban to Doorknob747, I did not emphasize that, since I wrote simply: "...that you are not allowed to comment on AN/I thread[s] that do not concern you." Of course, that is not sufficient for Doorkno747 to refuse to take responsibility for his own actions and to try to lay the blame on someone else, especially since the actual words of the topic ban were on the page directly above. If he was confused all he had to do was look at them. BMK (talk) 20:23, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
message to everyone
[edit]Sorry for me being a headless chicken or a bull in a china shop. It wont happen again. Doorknob747 (talk) 21:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
To do after block removed list revised
[edit]Essay articles to create
[edit]- How to stay calm when you are blocked, banned , or temporarily blocked/banned. Ask @Beyond My Ken: if I could use the incident as an example for why to stay calm when, this happens to one for the first time.
Images to upload that Epicgenius said ok to take
[edit]- R46 panorama interior and exterior.
- R160 panorama exterior only (interior panorama is already available.)
Check status of issues on New York City Subway wikiproject page I am part of
[edit]- Help point artcle:ask if it is notable enough for creation or addition in a article and if my images can be used.
- Ask for rename WiFi category from just WiFi in stations to public WiFi in stations( see my latest added section on that page for more info on what I mean. )
Put a sorry message on every user I pinged when I had my block
[edit]Sorry message
[edit]I am sorry for what I did. I should not acted like a headless chicken or a bull in a china shop. Please forgive me and help me be a good Wikipedia editor. (Please do not disturb me for next 1 or 2 weeks since i am very busy in real life, and I will rarely be on Wikipedia on that time frame. So start giving me help at the end of that time frame. ) I promise that I will not do what I did again.
To ask someone
[edit]- How I can get the possibility of ever becoming admin back again. :(
Is it alright if I create a new craiglist forum on Craiglist forums, for Wikipedia.←Don't think that would work for Jimmy Wales. Doorknob747 (talk) 21:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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I see you yourself did my work
[edit]For that reason you are off my revenge list. Wnan join da dark side and be friends? You wont regret it. From dodo. Now time to vandalise other people. DodoBirdsDie6 (talk) 22:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Editor is indefinitely blocked. Liz Read! Talk! 22:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks @Liz: can you put a sock tag on that account?Doorknob747 (talk) 22:25, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- No, I can't. Tagging accounts as being socks is left for admins, CUs and SPI clerks. Liz Read! Talk! 01:02, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks @Liz: can you put a sock tag on that account?Doorknob747 (talk) 22:25, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Sock above↑
[edit]keep the message as evidence. Doorknob747 (talk) 22:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- No need to, the user has been indef blocked. BMK (talk) 22:25, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Would you like to be in the wikipedia essay?Doorknob747 (talk) 22:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- You can certainly use my ideas, and my words if you think it appropriate, however I fear that citing me as an example of how to stay calm would be detrimental to your essay, since too many Wikipedia editors have been at the receiving end of my considerably less-than-calm self during disputes. I have a temper, and I am at times unsuccessful at controlling it. I don't usually panic, but I'm hardly an appropriate poster child for staying calm. If I were you, I would leave my name out of it, just take any ideas (which are hardly original with me in the first place) and use them if you wish.However, I still think you should focus on article work, and work incrementally up from there. Writing an essay might be good to help focus you, but it's doubtful that at this stage in your Wiki-career you have enough experience to write one which is going to be useful to other editors. Therefore, if you do want to write an essay, I would suggest leaving it in your userspace and not moving it to Wikipedia-space. BMK (talk) 22:36, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Is it ok if I make an alt to edit my name space '''''ONLY''''''?Doorknob747 (talk) 22:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- If you're asking if you're able to edit your namespace while you are blocked, I don't believe that it is possible. I think you are mechanically restricted and can only physically edit this page. At least that's what I recall discovering once when I was blocked. An admin can confirm that. BMK (talk) 23:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Is it ok if I make an alt to edit my name space '''''ONLY''''''?Doorknob747 (talk) 22:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- You can certainly use my ideas, and my words if you think it appropriate, however I fear that citing me as an example of how to stay calm would be detrimental to your essay, since too many Wikipedia editors have been at the receiving end of my considerably less-than-calm self during disputes. I have a temper, and I am at times unsuccessful at controlling it. I don't usually panic, but I'm hardly an appropriate poster child for staying calm. If I were you, I would leave my name out of it, just take any ideas (which are hardly original with me in the first place) and use them if you wish.However, I still think you should focus on article work, and work incrementally up from there. Writing an essay might be good to help focus you, but it's doubtful that at this stage in your Wiki-career you have enough experience to write one which is going to be useful to other editors. Therefore, if you do want to write an essay, I would suggest leaving it in your userspace and not moving it to Wikipedia-space. BMK (talk) 22:36, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Would you like to be in the wikipedia essay?Doorknob747 (talk) 22:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Doorknob747, did you just create this username, while you were blocked? BMK (talk) 23:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah that is a big big mistake. I will WP:AGF here but this is called WP:Socking and can get you blocked longer. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Since some of my timestamps are in local time, and some are in UTC, I'm a bit confused about the timeline here, so I've requested the blocking admin, Black Kite, to take a look. If Doorknob747 did indeed create Door's ghost during his block -- and it was my understanding that it was not possible to do this, unless perhaps he deliberately switched to a different IP -- than I agree it was a big mistake, and Doorknob's block is going to be upped, perhaps even to indef, since his behavior continues to move toward looking less newbyish and more trollish. BMK (talk) 23:17, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I can say they are while he was blocked (Created between 18:57 - 19:09 (24 hr time) April 29, 2015) my times are just in UTC. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:22, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- I thought so from the comment left on Door's ghost's user page. While waiting for an admin to deal with this, I have reverted all of Door's ghost's edits in Doorknob747's user space as block evasion. BMK (talk) 23:23, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, sad to see it come to this though. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- There's also the possibility that Door's ghost is a Joe job created to get DK744 into trouble. We'll have to see what the admins make of it. BMK (talk) 23:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Door u thought am a leave no I wil not till u indef banned from Dodo. Door's ghost (talk) 23:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- This could be a sock of dodo as well. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
who the fuck keeps pjnging me
[edit]And what's this ghost joke someone made about me, 1 I'm not dead, 2 april fools past a month ago! My phone is vibrating of the hook with emails saying someone edited ir talk page. Doorknob747 (talk) 00:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Its a dodo sock, will be taken care of shortly. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Should be taken care of as soon as possible since, I was thrown out of my final exam cause of the pinging sound. Proffessor said he is going to give me a F if I do not come back by 9pm for the two hour test, class ends at 11pm and he said that he does not want to hear a single ping or I go to authorities for cbeatingDoorknob747 (talk) 00:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Turn off your phone then? Just a suggestion that might help. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:45, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Should be taken care of as soon as possible since, I was thrown out of my final exam cause of the pinging sound. Proffessor said he is going to give me a F if I do not come back by 9pm for the two hour test, class ends at 11pm and he said that he does not want to hear a single ping or I go to authorities for cbeatingDoorknob747 (talk) 00:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
@Beyond My Ken:@Knowledgekid87:Never mind no rush now, I told proff the situation and he said I can take the final tomorrow. Anyway can someone bring out the other IP topic thread that was reverted before I was baned on AnI since it relates to the current thread there. Doorknob747 (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC) Also, just to let you know the final is to be taken on a computer, and my laptop battery died because I acted like a headless chicken earlier on in the day, so I have to do it on my cell. Doorknob747 (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Doorknob747, go into your Preferences and change your settings so you don't get pinged. If you have typed in your phone number or email address, you can delete it and then save the new settings.
- By the way, you have quite a few people who have come to your page to offer you advice and assistance. This doesn't happen to most new editors so listen to their words of warning. You could have a bright future here! Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you LizDoorknob747 (talk) 01:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
One more hour.
[edit]Just one more hour to go till the block time ends. Doorknob747 (talk) 01:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
coubtadown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1 0 happy unbannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *balldriop*02:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)02:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)02:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)Doorknob747 (talk)
- Welcome back, now go edit some articles, stay clear of ANI unless you are being harassed and you will be fine. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
now its time go chicken when time of bock ends and you are sitkl blocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[edit]@Beyond My Ken:@Epicgenius:@Knowledgekid87:@Liz:@NeilN:@Materialscientist:I did not get any notice of increse bock time this aint fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Doorknob747 (talk) 02:29, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- So excited about being unblocked? Oh, my. Epic Genius (talk) 02:30, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- You appear to be unblocked now, just be wary about pinging is all. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Why did you ping us all and your time wasn't even increased? This is getting ridiculous, Doorknob747. Take care and goodbye. Liz Read! Talk! 02:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Liz:Something wrong unban bot, it was on a back log. i got unbanned. Doorknob747 (talk) 02:50, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
^ da *blleep* how does one make those symbols?
[edit]Doorknob747, at least in the Microsoft Windows OS, it's done with Character Map.
♪◊♫♥ --Shirt58 (talk) 11:25, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Blocked
[edit]Interesting. When I looked at the account that reported you at WP:AN/I, I found that they were actually you, so you are now blocked as well. You may attempt to appeal this block by using {{unblock|your reason here}}
, but you are warned against going off with a load of nonsense and/or profanity as that will result in having your talk page access revoked. —DoRD (talk) 14:30, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- You know, this is going to sound like 20-20 hindsight, but I actually wondered if that might be the case, because the timing between DK474's remarks and the arrival of a new sock seemed so fortuitous. Anyway, it's nice to have this settled, thanks for that. BMK (talk) 14:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, looks like you changed "accounts" to "account", so you were probably only referring to Andabanda (or whatever), and the other socks were actually Dodo Bird's? Or is Dodo bird & company also DK747? I'm a bit confused, but at least everyone is blocked. BMK (talk) 14:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken: Also in hindsight, I think that Doorknob was Dodo Bird from the start. Come to think of it, their editing styles were similar. Doorknob's account came first, so were an SPi to be filed, he may be considered the real sockmaster here. Epic Genius (talk) 14:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- (ec) I originally looked at 10,000RPM, but Andabandaanda and the rest are all this user. My original comment here wasn't quite right because, after all the time I spent looking at CU data and contributions, I had forgotten who the OP at ANI was. This account is the oldest one I saw. —DoRD (talk) 14:53, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- This is all very interesting, didn't see this coming, but yeah the socks should be monitored as I don't think this is the last we have heard from this user. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- I have also blocked Taikoguide (talk · contribs) based on behavioral evidence and a
Likely CU connection. —DoRD (talk) 15:36, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- @DoRD: Would it be worth tagging the userpages with "confirmed sock" for the record in case there are more socks down the line? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- This is disappointing. Doorknob747, you had a lot of people on your side but once you sock, all that goodwill disappears. There are admins who were once blocked and later became an admn but I can't think of any admins who were sockpuppeting before they became admins. That is one dream you will have to let go of. Liz Read! Talk! 17:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- What the hell is going on here because, I am not Dodobird or who ever that was. Doorknob747 (talk) 18:45, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- You were blocked for socking and this time It isn't for 12 hours. If you admit your other accounts and work towards starting anew maybe the WP:STANDARDOFFER can apply. Don't say it wasn't me, I didn't do it, ect... ect... there are people here on Wikipedia who are trusted with connecting accounts and have ways of doing so. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- @DoRD: Would it be worth tagging the userpages with "confirmed sock" for the record in case there are more socks down the line? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- I have also blocked Taikoguide (talk · contribs) based on behavioral evidence and a
- This is all very interesting, didn't see this coming, but yeah the socks should be monitored as I don't think this is the last we have heard from this user. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- (ec) I originally looked at 10,000RPM, but Andabandaanda and the rest are all this user. My original comment here wasn't quite right because, after all the time I spent looking at CU data and contributions, I had forgotten who the OP at ANI was. This account is the oldest one I saw. —DoRD (talk) 14:53, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken: Also in hindsight, I think that Doorknob was Dodo Bird from the start. Come to think of it, their editing styles were similar. Doorknob's account came first, so were an SPi to be filed, he may be considered the real sockmaster here. Epic Genius (talk) 14:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- So even evidence that I have that shows I am not dodo does not count?Doorknob747 (talk) 19:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- As per above you are welcome to appeal the block. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:25, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, looks like you changed "accounts" to "account", so you were probably only referring to Andabanda (or whatever), and the other socks were actually Dodo Bird's? Or is Dodo bird & company also DK747? I'm a bit confused, but at least everyone is blocked. BMK (talk) 14:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Is a two or three paragraph reason for unban allowed?Doorknob747 (talk) 19:30, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- I haven't seen it not be. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
If there is some proof that is on another website, do I have to place the link to that site? Also, it actually a bulleted list of 7 reasons, each two to four lines long.Doorknob747 (talk) 19:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- Just post your un-block request, keep in mind though there is also WP:BROTHER. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:41, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Ok then I will put the link. I think that there is only a 34% chance since Wikipedia has no control over another website. If this does not work I am going to say good bye to Wikipedia, since, I am not going to say "I did it", for something I never did. I am the person who goes with the truth and not a lie. Even if I do say the lie, "that I did it", and even if I get unblocked for that, it would go against what my parents taught me. That was, to always go with the truth. Just in advance I do not think this will help, so good bye. I am going to place the unblock request and see the outcome.Doorknob747 (talk) 19:53, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- I had your account on my WP:Watchlist; it might be because I suspected you of being a WP:Sockpuppet from the start, but I wasn't sure which main account you were and I'm still not sure. In a computer notepad, I regularly note editors I believe are WP:Sockpuppets or returning editors who are not WP:Sockpuppets (see WP:Clean start for that latter part). Then again, maybe I started watching your user page/talk page because you edited WP:Disruptively. This is a rare case where I am not quite sure why I was watching an account, but I know that it was not because of positivity. Maybe I started watching this user page/talk page because of WP:Disruption and WP:Sockpuppet suspicion. Either way, I might soon take your account off my WP:Watchlist now that you have been confirmed as WP:Sockpuppeting. Flyer22 (talk) 00:16, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- Oh now I remember why I started watching your user page/talk page; it was because you were going around adding disclaimers to sexual articles. See #Your edits above. Flyer22 (talk) 00:26, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
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Doorknob747 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
1. The reason for the short timings between my and dodo's sock edits was because, after every edit that I made to ANI, I always go to the edit history of the ANI page. I do this since, always the page size on ANI becomes crazy huge in page size. Also, there is a backlog in the archive of the old topics, that were closed, so I can notify someone that the archiving process has a problem. I always wanted to help out Admins in some way. Another reason for the short timing is because, most of the time when I am mentioned on ANI for every time there is a change on ANI I go back to look in the history page.
2. Grammar, does not mean anything, more than one person can have the same grammar problems. So, grammar is not a reason why, someone can call me dodo.
3. Why did this dodo target me first? It is because, I know dodo outside of Wikipedia on Gameloft forums, where he has a account with the same name where I insulted him. Everyone on gameloft forums knows I have a Wikipedia account and the name of the account.
4. I do not see any reason stated by the user who blocked me for why I was blocked or why he/she thinks I am the sock.
5. Why did this dodobird thing was brought up by me a long time after since dodo, vandalized my page a long time ago? It, was because, I felt there most likely is a intimate possibility of his return of his return since, many alts were found related to dodo bird on Gameloft forums. Note: Even I was accused there and it was stated by a moderator there, that dodo could not be me after they did a investigation. The last page on link states that I am not the vandal over there. Link: http://www.gameloft.com/?request=forum&url=showthread.php%3F204998-Dodo-bird-die-is-driverdriver22
6. I would never vandalize on pages of users who I considered my friends.
7. There would be no way that I would go making socks, since I know making socks would permanently, destroy my chances of ever becoming a Administrator. Doorknob747 (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I am extremely confident that you are the same user:
- Based on behavior, there are quite a few indicators that made me confident you were they same user, and this morning I was actually in the process of creating an SPI about you when User:DoRD blocked you. If Checkuser had come back "inconclusive", there's a distinct possibility I would have blocked you on behavioral evidence alone.
- Based on IP data from Checkuser, which provides a technical "double check" that you are, indeed, operating from the same group of computers.
If you are going to play silly buggers and deny the obvious, then there is no point to this any longer; I'd hate to go back through and count how many person-hours you've wasted, of people who have tried to help you. I cannot imagine any possible unblock request that would be granted by any admin, so to prevent any further time sink, talk page and email access are removed. Please find somewhere else to play, at least until you get into high school. Floquenbeam (talk) 20:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.