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Flying Guillotine

I know that regular wikis are not reliable, but this is the official team fortress wiki. You will see its url is wiki.teamfortress.com. teamfortress.com is made by valve, and is the website directely and officialy linked to tf2. may i revert your changes? if not, why? dandan0101 — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanDan0101 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikis are not reliable sources as they consist of user-submitted content. It doesn't matter whether it's an "official" wiki or not. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 06:14, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

The only thing being that this wiki, members and users cannot add content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanDan0101 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome to discuss this at the Talk page for the article, or check with WP:RSN to see what their feelings on the matter are, but my understanding is that wikis in general are not acceptable for sourcing purposes. Sorry. DonIago (talk) 05:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

my editing of a page

hello Doniago, i am new in this, so I hope you have patience for me, recently i put in an addition in Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah, citing different times that the song mentioned "God" or "Lord", my source was from the link that was shown on the same page, so why did you send me back that it was OR?

You have not been inserting reliable sources in your citations. Among other things, if you're citing books you need to include things like the page number, publisher, etc. so that readers can verify your source if they wish to do so. It is inappropriate to include citations such as "see book of Samuel" because that's not enough information to work with. Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 21:34, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

why isn't a source from "external links" in the same page considered a reliable source? in my case, i showed the source that i got the mentioning of God's name, from the lyrics which were displayed in the "external links"?

There's no requirement that external links be reliable sources. In fact, frequently they're links precisely because they're of interest but aren't reliable. In any case, simply citing an external link, as I already mentioned, does not provide sufficient information for referencing purposes. Please review the links I've already provided in my earlier response. DonIago (talk) 10:21, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Dude, why are you removing my adding Michael Bolton/Bolotin on the "Dancing in the Street" song page when I'm linking directly to the Everyday of My Life wikipedia page where the song is listed in the album tracking listing? How much more of a "source" for proof of its validity would you possibly need?

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A Christmas Story

I don't see how that information could be deemed "unneeded" or "excessive detail". The part about the Bumpus Hounds is a significant subplot, and Ralphie's daydreams are a significant character detail that provides the motivation for his story. I would argue just the opposite -- this is not at all excessive or unneeded. Zpb52 (talk) 04:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Please see the Talk page. This was discussed previously. Additionally you may wish to review WP:FILMPLOT. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 04:09, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Hal Jordan

the alter ego is used for his name.24.38.188.96 (talk) 17:47, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

This was dicussed at the article's Talk page and the consensus was that that field should not be set to the same name as the article name itself. In any case, please review WP:BRD; when your edits are reverted it is best to initiate a discussion rather than simply re-inserting them. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 17:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Where was that??24.38.188.96 (talk) 17:50, 22 December 2014 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_comics_character 24.38.188.96 (talk) 17:54, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Close, but you want the Talk page - Template talk:Infobox comics character#Alter ego. DonIago (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Alter ego and Full name are mutually exclusive; the former is for articles where the character has a superhero name, the latter is for characters that go by a shortened version of their given name or a nickname.24.38.188.96 (talk) 18:44, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

With all due respect, while the situation is under dispute the appropriate course of action is to continue discussion and try to reach a consensus (and I disagree that one wasn't reached previously), not to edit-war. Please do not reinsert your edits without a clear agreement to do so.

Please bring this up at the linked discussion, as I do not agree with any interpretation that suggests the article name and the Alter Ego field should use the same name. DonIago (talk) 20:03, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I got that from template info box comics character24.38.188.96 (talk) 20:48, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I understand where you're getting your interpretation from, but if you look at the Talk page discussion that I provided a link to, the understanding we reached there was that the Alter ego field should not be set to the same thing as the article name. If you disagree with my interpretation of that, you should discuss the matter there so that other editors can review the situation as well. Thank you for your understanding. DonIago (talk) 20:58, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

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	Merry Christmas Doniago, blessings and best wishes for 2015! MarnetteD\|Talk 19:44, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Marnette!!! Very Happy Holidays to you as well! DonIago (talk) 19:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Black Cauldron & High King first editions

I am just curious as to why you removed the (first edition) tag from the page count section of these articles' infoboxes, especially since the other books in the series still have theirs. This sort of clarification is pretty standard practice in articles where the book has seen multiple printings, as the page count can indeed vary widely from edition to edition. Featured articles such as Moby-Dick, The Fox and the Hound and The Time Traveler's Wife demonstrate this. It's a small detail, but I just thought I'd seek your reasoning behind it rather than risking an edit war by changing it back. Aurum ore (talk) 22:38, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

The template documentation indicates that a 1st edition count is preferred for the page count. My logic is that you should only really need to include a note at that point if the count you're using is not the page count for a 1st edition. Anyway, I'm not going to make a federal case of it if you want to add it back in, it just seems a bit unnecessary. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 23:46, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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Citing references

Thank you for pointing out to me that I neglected to cite references on a recent edit I did. This is my first time as a Wiki editor and I'm still learning the ropes. You were very helpful. I have since amended the additions to the article in question. Thanks again! MikeTank (talk) 01:29, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem! Hope you'll enjoy time here! DonIago (talk) 02:40, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

please stop removing uncited edits.

I'm sure you are trying to do the best thing, but please do not remove every uncited edit on Wikipedia.

A reliable source is not required for every single edit, there is a difference between a disputed fact that required a citation as proof and a minor and undisputed fact.

Also, for many (most?) of the edits that you deleted, a source was easily available with about 1 min searching on google, it would be far more constructive (and polite) if you spent your time looking for these sources than just deleting the edits.

thanks

Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 07:34, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

My view regarding recent edits is that the editor who inserted the material is, oddly enough, the editor best suited to provide a reliable source. There's little sense in my digging for a source when, theoretically, the editor who inserted the information should be able to provide one even faster. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 13:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

You are working on the assumption that every single addition to an article requires a citation. When there is a disputed fact, or a case of OR/BLP, then there should always be a citation, and the original editor should be showing their source, however it is far more helpful if other editors helped to find those sources when required, rather than just removing everything that is uncited. You are not helping wikipedia by removing these edits, it makes new editors feel unwelcome and in most cases removes valuable content from wikipedia. I am trying to show some good faith regarding your edits, but to be honest they are borderline trolling and most certainly disruptive. Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 16:26, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I recommend reviewing WP:IPC. The edits you reverted involved information I deleted because they were discussing cover versions of songs, but nothing was provided to establish how the covers were in any manner significant. Their mere existence doesn't make them significant any more than my covering a song would make my cover significant. Wikipedia articles should not contain indiscriminate lists of information, and the way we establish that a cover is significant is by providing a source that discusses it in some manner beyond its mere existence. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 17:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Your reversion on Heart of Darkness is particularly troublesome given that the source says nothing about the novel at all, which is the focus of the article. DonIago (talk) 17:02, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

So you reverted my edits on the articles because they were cover songs? I feel so silly now. I always thought that Starship originally recorded "we built this city" and that Led Zeppelin originally recorded "misty mountain hop" - was I mistaken? Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 17:16, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Because the significance of them covering the songs in these particular cases was not made apparent via the sources you provided, as I indicated above. DonIago (talk) 17:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

duh...does sarcasm fly straight over your head? Those two songs are NOT covers. You know nothing about the articles you are editing, if you don't know that Led Zep wrote Misty mountain hop, then why edit the article? You are not qualified to comment on how significant something is, if you don't understand the article in question. Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 17:21, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

First of all, there's no need to be an incivil ass. If you continue doing so I will consider you to be engaging in deliberate personal attacks and will handle the matter accordingly. Secondly, after reviewing the Misty Mountain Hop information I agree it may merit inclusion, though I've edited it per WP formatting conventions and removed information unsupported by the source. DonIago (talk) 18:06, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Doniago, I would like to show my appreciation to you. Please do forgive me I think that I have been somewhat slow off the starting blocks. I must admit that this is all very new to myself, but, hopefully with a little help that I will be able to start setting up my user page etc...I look forward to your response... BlueLip tat (talk) 00:31, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar! Though...I'm not sure in what capacity we've previously interacted? Happy editing in any case! I don't really do much at all with my user page, but you're free to borrow anything from it that you might find useful. I'll give you a few links on your Talk page as well. DonIago (talk) 04:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Could you look into this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimacraea_marshalli can you see who has edited the page previously?? BlueLip tat (talk) 23:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

You can by checking the article's edit history. Every WP page has one. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 06:19, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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