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- I note you have asked for assistance elsewhere please allow that to occur and an uninvolved admin will assess whether there is consensus for the changes you want, please self revert you edit. Gnangarra 07:23, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Additionally you have made 6 reverts in 3 days while not breaching the actual numbers of WP:3RR you are definitely breaching the spirit of that. Gnangarra 07:29, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]Her majesty's loyal opposition and the opposition leader is Labor and their leader. The Greens are on the crossbench. We work with facts, not media characterisations. Please do not re-add Greens to the opposition as they are not. Timeshift (talk) 03:14, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, I think it's the other way around: we work with media characterisations (i.e. what the sources say), not facts (i.e. original research). "Verifiability not truth" and all that. Colonial Overlord (talk) 03:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- No we don't. See here soon enough. Timeshift (talk) 03:58, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]I already requested a protection of that page. My advice to you is: Don't get into edit wars again. It is always bad for everyone Tetra quark (don't be shy) 02:53, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. My only edits were restoring the page to the status quo until consensus is achieved per wikipedia policy. How can I deal with violations of WP:CON without reverting the violating edits? Colonial Overlord (talk) 06:03, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
January 2015
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Your recent editing history at Social conservatism shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Australia. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount and can lead to a block, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. AussieLegend (✉) 15:02, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Two days ago you were asked to take this to the article's talk page, and to respect WP:BRD and WP:STATUSQUO.[1] You have done none of those things and I note that you've picked up a warning for edit-warring at another article. Edit-warring at one article is bad enough, edit arring at multiple articles is unnaceptable. Please do not continue edit warring at Australia. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:07, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- It seems you don't understand the meaning of edit warring. A constructive series of edits, in which the edits are altered each time to accommodate the concerns of the other editor, is the very opposite of edit warring. I also note that you have not started a discussion on the talk page yet to explain what your objections are, and why you couldn't simply follow my suggestion and change "notably" to "successfully".
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- Colonial Overlord (talk) 01:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Multiple revrsions of other editors[2][3][4] is not "A constructive series of edits". That is the very essence of edit-warring. Per Wikipedia:Edit warring, "An edit war occurs when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions, rather than trying to resolve the disagreement through discussion." At no time did you attempt to discuss the edits, as you were requested to. Also per Wikipedia:Edit warring, "an editor who repeatedly restores his or her preferred version is edit warring, whether or not the edits were justifiable". As the editor seeking to add the content, the burden is on you to convince others that your edits should be incorporated. It's not up to me, or any other editor, to start the discussion for you. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- The first time was a reversion from another editor with no explanation. I'm hardly going to put in the effort of starting a discussion with an editor who can't even show the courtesy of providing a reason for their reversion. Once a reason was provided by a different editor (in the form of a citation needed tag) I replaced the tag with a citation. The editor restored the tag saying I needed a reference saying a particular thing. I provided such a reference. Hardly an edit war.
- You are the one with objections to my edit. I don't see what other reasons I need to provide for the edit beyond the citations already provided. Are you saying you want me to start a discussion saying nothing more than "OK aussielegend, what are your objections?" before you will say what they are? Colonial Overlord (talk) 11:41, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- The reasoning, or lack thereof, for the first reversion is irrelevant. It was uncited and therefore was subject to reversion for that alone. It's still up to you to convince others why your edits should be included and I am clearly not the only one who objects to your edits.[5][6][7][8] Editors don't need to, and shouldn't have to, restate their opposition each time you revert. We have WP:AN3 to resolve that sort of activity. I've already explained my opposition to your edits.[9] It's now up to you to address the concerns previously expressed in edit summaries. --AussieLegend (✉) 12:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Well I doubt the lack of citation was the reason for the reversion by Andreas as that user has shown on other pages that he/she doesn't care about citations. But I take your point about uncited being enough for a reversion, especially on featured articles. I just didn't think of that as the reason given the nature of the user who reverted originally.
- I also addressed the concerns of Mark Marathon so the only one objecting at the moment is you.
- I'm afraid I don't understand your edit summary. If your problem is that the sources don't say "notably" then why didn't you simply follow my suggestion in my previous edit summary? And if the problem is that you think the first source contradicts the second (although "main" is not the opposite of "minor") then why not simply remove the first source? Colonial Overlord (talk) 12:25, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- The other editors have not made further comment so you can't claim that their concerns have been addressed. Mark Marathon reverted you after you added the first cite and then added {{fact}} when you reverted him, so there still appear to be issues. I made it quite clear in my summary that the sources you added contradicted each other. "Successfully" is not mentioned and is a subjective appraisal. --AussieLegend (✉) 12:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- OK I have replied at the article talk page. Colonial Overlord (talk) 13:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- The other editors have not made further comment so you can't claim that their concerns have been addressed. Mark Marathon reverted you after you added the first cite and then added {{fact}} when you reverted him, so there still appear to be issues. I made it quite clear in my summary that the sources you added contradicted each other. "Successfully" is not mentioned and is a subjective appraisal. --AussieLegend (✉) 12:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- The reasoning, or lack thereof, for the first reversion is irrelevant. It was uncited and therefore was subject to reversion for that alone. It's still up to you to convince others why your edits should be included and I am clearly not the only one who objects to your edits.[5][6][7][8] Editors don't need to, and shouldn't have to, restate their opposition each time you revert. We have WP:AN3 to resolve that sort of activity. I've already explained my opposition to your edits.[9] It's now up to you to address the concerns previously expressed in edit summaries. --AussieLegend (✉) 12:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Multiple revrsions of other editors[2][3][4] is not "A constructive series of edits". That is the very essence of edit-warring. Per Wikipedia:Edit warring, "An edit war occurs when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions, rather than trying to resolve the disagreement through discussion." At no time did you attempt to discuss the edits, as you were requested to. Also per Wikipedia:Edit warring, "an editor who repeatedly restores his or her preferred version is edit warring, whether or not the edits were justifiable". As the editor seeking to add the content, the burden is on you to convince others that your edits should be incorporated. It's not up to me, or any other editor, to start the discussion for you. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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Editing on Social Conservatism
[edit]Hi. First of all, I'd like to thank you for helping work on the article. Now, I was wondering if it would be possible for you to agree on some sort of compromise? Clearly, you have strong beliefs about the topic, and I respect that. However, according to WP:NPOV, Wikipedia is neutral on all topics. So yeah, just hoping for some compromise. What do you say? Hendrick 99 (talk) 14:46, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Whatever beliefs I have on the topic are not affecting my editing; I'm just trying to keep the language neutral and in line with common use. It would be very helpful for me if you could explain exactly what you're trying to change with the article. Many of your changes seem strange to me, but if you explain what you thought was wrong with the original terms and why you made the changes you did that would help a lot. Also I apologise if my edit summaries were rather dismissive or rude, but there are a lot of trolls, vandals and POV pushers around. Now I see that you're interested in constructive editing. Colonial Overlord (talk) 14:58, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- I'm simply trying to reduce the article's heavy bias. I think the version right now actually does that quite well, actually. Earlier, the article was too pro-Social Conservative, which of course was unacceptable. Then, I admit, I did overcompensate for that in my first few edits last month and that somewhat skewed the bias in the other direction. I'd like to thank you for helping me balance it, and sorry if I came off a bit passive-aggressive earlier. :) Hendrick 99 (talk) 15:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- I don't quite see how the original version was pro-SC. Could you give examples? As far as I can see, pro-SC would be "social conservatives support traditional marriage and oppose efforts to redefine it", anti-SC would be "social conservatives oppose equal marriage rights for gay people", while neutral is "social conservatives oppose same-sex marriage". Colonial Overlord (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Examples in the original (as it was on the 7th February 2015) would be bits like: 'Social conservatism is a political ideology that focuses on the preservation of what are seen as traditional values.' or 'the notion of preserving traditional values was seen by many social conservatives as an ideal that had been gradually eroded', and terms like 'family values'. Also, when you wrote '80% of the population saying that homosexual acts are wrong', the connotation of the term 'wrong' does carry a political bias. You're right about the source, but in this context that actually defeats the purpose of the source (which appeared to me to be critical of social conservatism). :) Hendrick 99 (talk) 15:58, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- I don't quite see how the original version was pro-SC. Could you give examples? As far as I can see, pro-SC would be "social conservatives support traditional marriage and oppose efforts to redefine it", anti-SC would be "social conservatives oppose equal marriage rights for gay people", while neutral is "social conservatives oppose same-sex marriage". Colonial Overlord (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- I'm simply trying to reduce the article's heavy bias. I think the version right now actually does that quite well, actually. Earlier, the article was too pro-Social Conservative, which of course was unacceptable. Then, I admit, I did overcompensate for that in my first few edits last month and that somewhat skewed the bias in the other direction. I'd like to thank you for helping me balance it, and sorry if I came off a bit passive-aggressive earlier. :) Hendrick 99 (talk) 15:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
March 2015
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- There is something you're missing here: most of my edits were reversions of a previous recent editor, where I changed the material back to long standing content matching the sources. The exceptions are my removal of "biblical literalism", which was unsourced, and my removal of libertarianism and classical liberalism, which do not appear in the cited source. That last source is online, and would have been very easy for you to check before knee jerk reversion. I am restoring my edits. Colonial Overlord (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- You are correct, I was missing that, my apologies; the current version of the article is an improvement and a return to the more established version. An exception, however, is the "Role of government" section; what is your opinion of the opening sentence, which has recently changed from the established version? P.S. Feel free to create your own user page. Prhartcom (talk) 14:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- As I said in my edit summary, it is incorrect to describe a movement that supports banning many things as libertarian or classical liberal. Colonial Overlord (talk) 14:58, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- You are correct, I was missing that, my apologies; the current version of the article is an improvement and a return to the more established version. An exception, however, is the "Role of government" section; what is your opinion of the opening sentence, which has recently changed from the established version? P.S. Feel free to create your own user page. Prhartcom (talk) 14:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
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Overly long plot of MJ II
[edit]You plot summary is ~950 words, while WP calls for summaries of 400-700 words (with a film of this type, length, and complexity perhaps requiring 550-600). In short, given that it is a sequel (with characters known from previous films), the summary is far too long. Since you did the original edit, can you self-edit, to shorten to WP standards? And remove the section tag (which was placed by another, and not me, making two editors having the opinion I share). Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 14:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- At the same time, the vagueness of "Snow is left to the mercy of the crowd" (in an otherwise explicit, spoiler-rich summary) could be made clear. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 15:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Animated GIF update required
[edit]Hey there, regarding this GIF, as you uploaded it, can you please update 2015 to show QLD changing to red, and include 2016? Thanks! Timeshift (talk) 18:03, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]Even though I agree with your wording on the leade, your arguments are definetly going into battleground territory, especially with the "it's in the dictionary " remarks.
Please remember this is a very sensitive area, everybody has an idea of what should be here and what shouldn't be here, and waving around a dictionary won't endear you to anyone.
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