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Vaskino, Mezhdurechensky District, Vologda Oblast

I’m curious why you closed it as keep when there was not a single policy-based argument to do so. Each of the “keep” articles merely claimed notability, but notability only suggest coverage, not a dedicated article. Qwirkle (talk) 05:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

I explained why in the close notice: not a single editor was in favour of deletion, even after Liz vacated her previous keep close to give another week for people to chime in. If you think it should be merged into another article, try WP:RM. -- asilvering (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

er, WP:PM, that is. -- asilvering (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I read that. But this isn't supposed to be a vote, where "I like it" can be a valid reason, and that's pretty much what you saw there. Qwirkle (talk) 13:29, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Those were three separate editors finding your reasons for deletion unconvincing and/or unnecessary. Your argument here, and your attempt to overturn two separate keep closes, is more "I don't like it" than any of those were "I like it". -- asilvering (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Not at all. The WP:NOPAGE concerns were simple left unaddressed, and the emphasis on "three separate editors" doesnt exactly scream out "!vote." Qwirkle (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Qwirkle, this is an example of one editor (that's you) disagreeing with the broader consensus formed by everyone else in a discussion, who found your WP:NOPAGE counterargument irrelevant or unpersuasive. If I closed it any other way, the other three editors would rightly object to that close as a supervote. The fact is that we do have these stubs everywhere, and that we do accept that they ought to exist if they meet the criteria at WP:GEOLAND. AfD arguments on this kind of place hinge around whether the place meets WP:GEOLAND or not. If you want to change that much broader consensus, you'd have to go to RfC with a better proposal. For what it's worth, I'm with you - I think these geoland stubs are useless at best and misleading or even false at worst. But I don't believe any !votes to that effect were going to come through in that AfD if it were relisted, given my understanding of how WP:GEOLAND works at AfD.

Personally, I suspect no one feels so passionately about "if it meets geoland, it should have a standalone article" that they would go around reverting bold merge-and-redirects into a central article like you sort-of-proposed in your nomination statement. The next time you find a cluster of nothing-stubs like these you might try that instead of AfD and see if that ends up with a more useful outcome. -- asilvering (talk) 20:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

How do i create a new wiki project?

so i noticed a strange lack of exact day information for some months (november bieng the most dramatic example) compared to others (april seems to be the with the most exact day information),i want to start a wiki project to DO something about it so there are more exact day info here on wikipedia,so how do i do that? UnsungHistory (talk) 03:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

There's probably already a wikiproject dedicated to what you want to work on. I'm not entirely sure if this is what you're talking about, but how's WP:DAYS? -- asilvering (talk) 03:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

so i checked WP:DAYS,they look to keep the dates in a consistent style,it could mean that they research and add exact dates to information such as in the article about Republic of suriname,"The official spelling of the country's English name was changed from "Surinam" to "Suriname" in January 1978",no exact day,it just says January,but it could not mean that,i dont know UnsungHistory (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

No, they're responsible for taking care of the individual days articles, like January 1 and so on. You can see what it is they do by following the link to the wikiproject and reading the page there. -- asilvering (talk) 23:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from SonalSehgalghb (10:33, 22 July 2024)

Hello, I worked on a page of a Military general but the page has been declined. If you can guide me to help make the draft better to be included in the mainspace. Regards --SonalSehgalghb (talk) 10:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @SonalSehgalghb, this draft is looking a lot better than it was before, but it's still missing the crucial thing we need to consider subjects notable for inclusion: in-depth, independent coverage in reliable sources. You don't need to remove the citations to the MoD, but we do need more independent sources. Right now I don't see a single source that qualifies as both independent and significant coverage. The sources that looked the most promising all appear to be press releases. What you're looking for is actual reporting - something with a byline (ie, a named reporter wrote the article). It will help if you remove items that are almost completely unrelated to him, like this one [1]. -- asilvering (talk) 14:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Sure, @Asilvering thanks a ton for the quick response. Your response and guidance is quite insightful in understanding where was I missing out.

I will add the relevant information as suggested.

Thanks once again.

~~ SonalSehgalghb (talk) 15:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Tonkarooson (07:57, 25 July 2024)

Hello! Nice to see you, feel free to read my user page if you'd like! For the question, are you comfortable with putting the adopted user template on my user page? --Tonkarooson (discuss). 07:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Tonkarooson, and a belated welcome to editing wikipedia! As for your question, I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Do you mean one of these templates? I don't really have any opinion on those, as I'm not part of adopt-a-user. But I'm happy to answer any questions you have about editing wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 00:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2024

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Question from Wiki kyliekyliekylie (12:22, 26 July 2024)

hi im literally just starting out, i wanted to get into editing because i have sometimes found blatant misinfo on wikipedia and wanted to learn how to edit to correct any future misinfo i come across, is that normal? --Wiki kyliekyliekylie (talk) 12:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Wiki kyliekyliekylie, welcome to wikipedia! Yes actually, a common thread among experienced editors is that they joined because something was wrong on the internet. When you go to correct something, make sure you provide a reliable source for the new information. Have a look at WP:RSP to check if a source you're about to use is reliable for the purposes of wikipedia. If there is no source for the information in a current wikipedia article, and you think the information is wrong, you don't need a reliable source to replace it - just remove it. -- asilvering (talk) 00:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

thank you very much Wiki kyliekyliekylie (talk) 21:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ambystomatidae macrodactylum (19:28, 26 July 2024)

Hello there,

I am trying to update the title of my organization's Wikipedia page however I am not the creator. I see instruction to 'Move Page' but I am not seeing that option anywhere.

How should I go about changing the title to the page if I am not the creator?

Thanks! --Ambystomatidae macrodactylum (talk) 19:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Ambystomatidae macrodactylum, you can't do this when you have a brand-new account. I can do it for you, or open a move discussion if that's necessary. What is your organization, and what is the correct name? Can you provide a URL to a source for the correct name? -- asilvering (talk) 00:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Good morning,

Understood. Thank you for offering to move the name from its current 'Waterton Biosphere Reserve' to 'Waterton Biosphere Region'.

We have updated our operating name in recognition of the negative associations tied between the word reserve and the federal government's Indian Act and colonization. In addition, the word reserve can also be understood as an exclusive place where humans should not go.

URL sources:

Organization website URL: https://www.watertonbiosphere.com/

More information about our decision found on page 3 URL: https://www.watertonbiosphere.com/about-waterton-biosphere-region/wbr-cooperation-plan/

Please let me know if I can offer any additional information to support this move and thank you for your time. Ambystomatidae macrodactylum (talk) 20:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nurseriesandschools Ltd on Draft:Nurseriesandschools.org (11:59, 29 July 2024)

How to create my article? --Nurseriesandschools Ltd (talk) 11:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

@Nurseriesandschools Ltd, you'll want to read WP:COI (and maybe WP:BOSS) before you start. I'll leave you some more links on your talk page. -- asilvering (talk) 12:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from DOrian29 (22:38, 29 July 2024)

Здравствуйте! Я хочу добавить перевод на одну статью. Как я могу это сделать? --DOrian29 (talk) 22:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @DOrian29, welcome to wikipedia! Have a look at WP:HOWTRANS for information on how to translate articles to English wikipedia. A similar guide for Russian wikipedia is at Википедия:Перевод статей. -- asilvering (talk) 00:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

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Guidance Required

Please guide me if I have to do anything more to improve the article.  I find that some citations and text which were unnecessary have already been removed from below article.

Draft:Purshottam Lal

Thanks. Iqacpu (talk) 04:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

@Iqacpu, you're citing wire articles (like this one [2]) multiple times from various different news websites. Please just cite the story from one place. Otherwise, it is very obvious to reviewers that you're trying to game the system (see WP:REFBOMB). I suspect Lal is notable, but you need to show it with fully independent sources - not press releases and so on. -- asilvering (talk) 22:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from RedPlanetBooks (12:55, 31 July 2024)

Hi, Why can't I be transparent as a book publisher and inform that Martn C Strong has a new book? I get the Wkipedia has decided that I should hide my interest so in the pursuit of transparency how do I change my username please --RedPlanetBooks (talk) 12:55, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @RedPlanetBooks, the problem with your edit wasn't that you added new information, but that you removed a citation and changed the text without providing a new citation, by changing "2004" to "2024". Adding information about the new book is fine. You absolutely should not hide your interest; please see WP:COI for how to declare it. You've been given information on your talk page about requesting a rename. You can also simply abandon this account completely and start again with a new one that follows the username policy. -- asilvering (talk) 21:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in the July 2024 GAN backlog drive

		The Minor Barnstar
		Your noteworthy contribution (5 points total) helped reduce the backlog by more than 160 articles! Here's a token of our appreciation. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you for coordinating the July 2024 GAN Backlog Drive! Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! I was wondering which barnstar would be best to hand to co-ords but it looks like I didn't decide fast enough, haha. Thanks for all your help. -- asilvering (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		Thank you very much for patiently answering my many questions during the July 2024 GAN Backlog Drive!! Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 15:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Aw, thanks very much. :) -- asilvering (talk) 15:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from MercyNyou on Le glaive et la balance (16:06, 1 August 2024)

Hi. One of English titles for the movie is a literal translation from French and is incorrect. “Le glaive et la balance” is “The Sword and The Scale,” not the equivalent of “The Sword and The Balance.” I realize this is a common error. May I correct it? What proof do I need to present? --MercyNyou (talk) 16:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

@MercyNyou, thanks for spotting this. In this case, it's a common error and you can prove you're correct simply by referring someone to a dictionary if necessary - so there's really no need to add a source when you correct it. Write a clear edit summary so folks who don't read French can understand why you're making the change. If someone reverts or challenges you on it, you can discuss the issue on the talk page. -- asilvering (talk) 16:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I changed it. My reference is a French-English dictionary. Is this sufficient? When you have the opportunity, let me know. Thanks. MercyNyou (talk) 16:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

You're fine as-is, no reference required. I changed it to "scale" from "scales", though. I do have a question about the way this is formatted - right now it implies that "The Sword and the Scale" and "Two are Guilty" are both English-language titles for this film. That is, the implication is that the film is referred to in English equally by both of those titles. (I don't have a times subscription so I can't check the sole reference here.) I'm not sure this is correct - has the film ever been translated into English? Did it ever have an English title? If yes, the article shouldn't be at "Le glaive et la balance" at all, but at the English-language title it was released under. Can you clarify this for me? -- asilvering (talk) 17:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

So there is a dubbed English version. I believe it’s also edited and has a shorter runtime. I have never seen the English version. I’m not sure if the English version exists on home media and if the French title is used in the credits.

From what I can find it was originally called by the French title in the USA and at some point the English title “Two are Guilty” was added to posters late e.g. Le Glaive et la balance (Two are Guilty). I could probably check what it was called in the movie listing in the archives. I know this was released in New York City.

I’m not sure if I can find the original posters or how it was originally marketed. I can do further research, although I understand if you’d prefer the original translatio MercyNyou (talk) 17:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Okay, this is all very helpful. I've made another edit to the article to clarify this. Thank you! -- asilvering (talk) 17:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

To explain a bit further, we generally ought to avoid the implication that an English translation of a title "is" the English title when it is actually just a literal translation of the original-language title provided for readers who aren't familiar with the original language. When you use Template:Literal translation like I did in my recent edit, that makes this clearer. I also wanted to avoid the impression that "Two are Guilty" is the "official" English-language title of the film, not for readers' sake in this case but for future editors' sake. This is because typically we would want the article to be at the English title rather than the title in the original language. But since it looks like this was the title used for marketing purposes rather than intended as an actual "English name" for the film, it would be incorrect to move it there. -- asilvering (talk) 17:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying. MercyNyou (talk) 18:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Marufanti (21:48, 1 August 2024)

Hello is my first time doing a page in wikipedia and I want to be sure I am doing right thank you --Marufanti (talk) 21:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

No, @Marufanti, I'm afraid you aren't, which is why your userpage has been deleted twice already. You need to stop trying to promote yourself through wikipedia. I've tried looking for evidence that you meet the guidelines at WP:N and haven't found anything, sorry. -- asilvering (talk) 00:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

I wrote again without promoting anything just writing facts is that ok? Would you be able to check? Please let me know thank you 2600:1700:234D:8C10:8014:F9BF:FB9A:C283 (talk) 05:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

No, it wouldn't, because you would still not meet the notability guidelines. -- asilvering (talk) 05:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Things i saw on talk pages and do not understand

I saw some a user respond to me and the link to the user page was in green,not red (page does not exist),blue (page exists),or purple (exists and i visited it),what does green link mean (+i know about that stubs are greenlinks thing but it was defenetily not a stub) ?also i saw things i cannot reply to ,and sometimes that is annoying as i want to reply,so why cannot i reply sometimes? UnsungHistory (talk) 11:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

@UnsungHistory, it sounds like you just saw someone's custom signature. Editors can change their signature to whatever they like (within reason) in user preferences. This includes colours. You can't use "reply" unless you're looking at something that uses the Discussion Tools widget. That widget works basically everywhere on Talk pages, with some exceptions. One of the exceptions is that if someone writes something in the source editor and then doesn't put their signature on it correctly. Without a signature, the reply link won't show up. That might have been what you saw. If you don't think that's what happened and you can remember what specific page you had trouble with replying on, let me know which it was and I can have a look. -- asilvering (talk) 12:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

so in the topic "wrong" on Talk:House of Orange-Nassau user Winn3317 claims to be a member of the oosterbaan family,and claims the throne of the kingdom of the netherlands and is appalled wikipedia does not recognize what the person claims is legitimate claim,then user JMvanDijk replied that it is just plain silly,and that the claim is illegitimate through birth,sure,i get talk pages have arguments and debates and can get big but in this specific case it obviously violates NPOV,but user JMvanDijk's comment neither had the time the comment was posted neither had [ reply ],so i had to press the [ reply ] on Winn3317's comment to send the article about neutral point of view policy on wikipedia,now it looks like i sent my comment before JMvanDijk,even though i did it after.now the green link person was AntiDionysius,on Talk:Tibet (1912–1951) In topic what does de facto independence mean in this article? UnsungHistory (talk) 12:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

@UnsungHistory, if you look at the timestamps here, those comments are from more than a decade ago. The best move is to simply ignore the discussion. I'll archive it. -- asilvering (talk) 20:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

CyberJoly Drim

Thanks, you motivated me to finish the translation. If you have time, perhaps you could give it a read to see if it reads well, since I am not a native speaker? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:21, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I gave it a go! Pulled some bits that were becoming too much like a blow-by-blow and tried to sum it up thematically a bit more. -- asilvering (talk) 00:34, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from ScottEugeneRoberts (15:32, 3 August 2024)

How do I create Something new to put on Wikipedia --ScottEugeneRoberts (talk) 15:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi there! I've left some links on your talk page. You might also want to read WP:FIRST. -- asilvering (talk) 16:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Gunnar Dittmar (16:21, 4 August 2024)

Hi, how do I add a reference to an article? --Gunnar Dittmar (talk) 16:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@Gunnar Dittmar, welcome to wikipedia! Have a look at WP:REFB. -- asilvering (talk) 00:34, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Crookz85 on Wikipedia:Sandbox (05:28, 5 August 2024)

I was about to publish my entry when I received a text message. When I opened my text message I lost the page I was editing. Is there a way I can get it back? Or is it gone for good? --Crookz85 (talk) 05:28, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Asked and answered at Teahouse. David notMD (talk) 10:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Officer X (06:58, 6 August 2024)

Hello Asilvering!

I am new here but I have a little bit experience as an IP. In the German Wikipedia, my CIDR-Range is blocked for „Non edit-Actions” (Translated for „Nicht-Bearbeitungsaktionen”) Can you do something to make it free so I can go to the wiki with my first Language. By the way, I am not this guy who is the reason that my IP Range was blocked.

Thanks --Officer X (talk) 06:58, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Officer X, welcome to (English) wikipedia! I can't do anything about that, since only admins on German Wikipedia can deal with blocks there. de:Wikipedia:Sperrprüfung has the information you need to appeal your block on that wiki. -- asilvering (talk) 22:09, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

I think I won't do anything because I don't want to risk a global block. I also think I have an LTA in my neighborhood, which is why the abuse filter hits me so often. Officer X (talk) 05:40, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

English wikipedia is also a good place. Officer X (talk) 05:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mahesh Vitthalrao Landge (03:38, 7 August 2024)

Dear Mentor, Can I Create a wikipedia Page --Mahesh Vitthalrao Landge (talk) 03:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Mahesh Vitthalrao Landge, sorry, I missed this earlier. You might want to read WP:FIRST. -- asilvering (talk) 05:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Lesang gregory (10:14, 12 August 2024)

hey how can i artist search page --Lesang gregory (talk) 10:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking. -- asilvering (talk) 14:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Homutsuwake no Mikoto

Hello! You recently declined my draft Draft:Homutsuwake no Mikoto for "unreliable sources" and didn't leave an explanation. What specifically was unreliable! Thanks - Camillz (talk) 12:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Camillz, almost none of the sources on the draft are reliable (and a section was removed as copyvio). #4 is an amateur podcast site. #5 is a photo blog. #6 is an English-Japanese dictionary citing wikipedia. For the first three, there are no URLs or page numbers - how did you access these? -- asilvering (talk) 14:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

hello and thanks for responding! The first three are books. I believe they're available on Wikipedia! - Camillz (talk) 15:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I know they are books. How did you access them? -- asilvering (talk) 17:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Some through Wikisource, but most are available for purchase, or as pdf's to read online. I have added links to them on the page. Camillz (talk) 10:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't asking how one might access them, I was asking how you, specifically, accessed them to write this article. I admit I was hoping for some kind of answer like "I borrowed them from my university library", but your responses have raised more questions than they've answered. Can you please explain how you wrote this article? Did you import the text from somewhere else? To be clear, you're not in trouble (and won't be). But I'd like to find out what's going on here. -- asilvering (talk) 17:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

i don't understand what you mean? You can go onto the page, go to the sources, and then click on them, then you can read them like I have. The sources link to were I read them. I read them online but you can get them in physical form too. Camillz (talk) 21:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi sorry I don't mean to come of to bluntly or rudely. But all these sources are proper sources. And some have been used on other pages before. Especially the books which are proper publications. I apologise if I sound rude. - Camillz (talk) 21:33, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Do you think with the sources filled out, I should put it up for review again? Again not to sound rude! And thanks for not being rude to me either - Camillz (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

No, I don't think so, not yet. Sorry for the unhelpfully short response - I just didn't want you to be left feeling ignored. I promise I'll get back to you in much more detail soon. -- asilvering (talk) 15:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh no ofcourse take your time! Sorry about that, don't rush it! - Camillz (talk) 15:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

There's no need to apologize!

One of the reasons why I was asking these questions is because it will be much easier for me to explain why these sources are not reliable sources if I understand how you came across them in the first place, and why you used them to write this article. This source in particular is a very strange one to use for any kind of research at all. I can give you some tips for finding reliable sources and how to spot unreliable ones, but they won't do you any good if they have nothing to do with how you're finding sources in the first place.

Another reason is because three of them are books, but the citations don't include any page numbers. Page numbers help other editors verify the content the citation is being used for. Without page numbers, this is much harder. Sometimes people don't include page numbers because they read the book in a way that makes providing page numbers very difficult (for example, some kinds of ebook). Sometimes it's because they're sloppy. Sometimes it's because they're making things up. I tried to verify the first one, which we have in wikisource. But I don't find any results for "Homutsuwake no Mikoto". I also tried a distinctive phrase from the story, and found only these results: [3]. That is, that phrase does not appear to exist in this book on wikisource. This may be a reliable source, but so far I haven't been able to verify the content.

Maybe this is my mistake, in which case, hopefully, you explaining how you wrote this article will help me get out of my confusion. Maybe this is your mistake, in which case, whatever it is, I will show you how to fix it. So far, all I've found myself is that part of it was directly copied from this website, which is why that section has been removed and deleted from the page history. -- asilvering (talk) 01:11, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello! So for the books which you can download as pdfs, you can search words, but I will include the page for the book on Wikisource. Now, Japanese is very strange and so some names aren't translated the same. What I mean is Homutsuwake no Mikoto could be translated as Hom-utsu-wake no Mikoto as an example. Camillz (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello! The source now links to the chapter! I will also quote the bit where it says what's this thing, but you can also find it yourself. "Now there was a swan which crossed the Great Void, uttering its cry. The Imperial Prince looked up, and seeing the swan, said:—"What thing is this" no, it doesn't exactly say "What's this thing" it says "what thing is this" the book is in Japanese originally, so obviously the translation isn't perfect. But I can assure you I didn't make this up! - Camillz (talk) 16:40, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from KinsaleofIreland (11:34, 13 August 2024)

How to send images into Wikipedia? --KinsaleofIreland (talk) 11:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @KinsaleofIreland, welcome to wikipedia! The most helpful way to give images to wikipedia is to upload them through wikimedia commons. Link here. Please be sure to only upload images that you have the rights to, or that you know are out of copyright (even for commercial use). If you need help while using commons, the commons-specific help desk is here. -- asilvering (talk) 19:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from NewestPiano (19:04, 14 August 2024)

Why is editing wikipedia Hard? --NewestPiano (talk) 19:04, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I can't tell you if you don't tell me what you're struggling with in particular. What's the trouble? :) -- asilvering (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

About the newspapers for Audrey and Friends

Hi, I read your comment on my draft for the Audrey and Friends page from January 29, and I found the newspapers mentioning Audrey and Friends from Newspapers.com. Sorry for the late reply though. LovelyAngel1004 (talk) 03:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

There's no rush. You'll need to reference those newspaper articles in the draft somehow before resubmitting it. Your next reviewer will be looking to see if it meets the guidelines at WP:GNG. -- asilvering (talk) 03:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I mean, I don't know where else to find free newspaper archive websites that have newspapers mentioning Audrey and Friends to be honest because most of them including Newspapers.com have plans that have clipping, and I don't have the money to pay for that. LovelyAngel1004 (talk) 03:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

If you get to 500 edits, you'll be extended confirmed and will be able to use WP:TWL. You're just about halfway there at the moment, so you might want to work on something else and come back to Audrey and Friends later. Your sources don't have to be newspapers, though - where did you get the information that's in the draft already? -- asilvering (talk) 05:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, I got the airdates from the newspapers mentioning the show. I almost forgot to mention that I also found newspapers mentioning Audrey and Friends on British Newspaper Archive, but it costs money too, and I got the episode titles, its descriptions, and the writers who wrote them from one of the production staff members that worked on the show, and one of them is named Adam Peters in which I contacted him a year ago.

I also found some newspapers mentioning BFBS airing Audrey and Friends from nationalarchives.gov.fk.

Yeah, I was trying my best to make it better back then, but I know there was a bit of info about the show since I know it was lost media after it stopped airing, but maybe you could look up Audrey and Friends and check it out on the Lost Media wikis.

I don't know if you could make the draft open to anyone though because I need someone helping me finding some more sources about the show, and probably airdates for the show's episodes since I'm not an expert at this, and I also know you said that my sources shouldn't be newspapers, but what free newspaper websites or other things should I find that have newspapers or other stuff mentioning Audrey and Friends so I can make this reliable? However, maybe you could probably let someone else delete my draft of this since I don't think the show deserves a page anymore, but at least I probably had enough info there, but maybe I should move on by keeping that in my sandbox for now. I'm also going to move on by reading and/or editing other pages as well, because that's what I'm gonna do from now on. I also want to be a loyal editor here when moving on from this. Hope you understand this, because that's all I could type.

Almost forgot to mention that I requested to delete my draft for this show. (also, sorry if this message was edited a couple times) LovelyAngel1004 (talk) 17:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC)