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[edit]"Lheureux" listed at Redirects for discussion
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Lheureux and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 3#Lheureux until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:19, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Propagande terroriste
[edit]Salut
Puisque vous êtes là, bien que les lois US soient plus laxistes que les françaises, on a le précédent du cas de Al Manar TV qui prouve que l'apologie du terrorisme est illégale quand elle incite à commettre des actes. Et donc par analogie vu que le Hezbollah est moins dangereux que Daech bien qu'il est terroriste, et que c'est interdit de propager ses médias, c'est la même pour les radios daechiennes. Panam2014 (talk) 19:11, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Merci, mais il vaut mieux éviter de disperser les discussions: je lis le Bistro de fr et j'ai évidemment parcouru la section pertinente de votre PDDU sur en:.
- Je n'ai pas d'avis sur le fond de la question (comme souvent, mon intervention sur ce sujet s'est limitée à renvoyer à ce que disaient d'autres gens), mais sur la procédure j'avais l'impression que c'était à tort qu'on vous reprochait (sur en:) une menace de procédure judiciaire ?
- Par ailleurs, Meta est peut-être un meilleur endroit que fr: (pourquoi cette Wikipédia-ci en particulier ?) pour demander de l'aide ?
- Apokrif (talk) 19:40, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Le blocage indef pour menace de poursuites judiciaires existe même sur fr:wiki. Or ce n'est pas le cas. Donc je suppose qu'il s'agit plutôt qu'un quiproquo mais du coup si j'ai menacé personne donc j'ai pas à retirer mes propos. Si vous pouviez l'expliquer à l'admin. Panam2014 (talk) 22:40, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Confusion avec Papa Frank
[edit]Salut
Jules a démenti l'équation avec l'IP proxy qui a semé la zizanie. Je ne sais pas quelle serait la solution ici. Surtout qu'il peut s'agir d'un bannissement WMF. Peut etre qu'une RCU meta ou des éléments du canard pourraient vous blanchir si vous avez de tels éléments. Panam2014 (talk) 14:10, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Apokrif: comme c'est le bazar total ce soir, je suis ouvert à la discussion à condition que tu sois de bonne foi et que tu ne trolles pas. Es-tu l'IP derrière ceci ? Rishāringânu 19:06, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- Je ne suis pas gâteux au point de ne pas savoir écrire mon propre pseudo, qui est massacré dans la page en lien
Apokrif (talk) 19:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC) - En revanche j'ai (màj: avais) vraiment la tête de Rantanplan dans mon profil Twitter. Apokrif (talk) 19:11, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- D'accord. Il est vrai que c'est bizarre. Rishāringânu 19:13, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- Laissez tomber, j'en ai plus que marre de toute cette m** avec en plus les retentissements sur ma vie privée, je n'y comprends rien non plus dans ce f**toir d'usurpateurs qui usurpent d'autres usurpateurs 2A01:E0A:8B4:9F90:4126:529B:48E3:825E (talk) 13:44, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Of course it's me ! 94.199.126.6 (talk) 20:20, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- I.e. who? Apokrif (talk) 22:35, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- Je ne suis pas gâteux au point de ne pas savoir écrire mon propre pseudo, qui est massacré dans la page en lien
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[edit]Hi Apokrif! Thanks for creating character redirects such as Liam Monroe and Victoria Skillane. However, I noticed you undid my edit here. Can you explain why? — Bilorv (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- You wrote that Liam Monroe goes to the same place as The Waldo Moment, which is wrong because the former is an anchored link. Apokrif (talk) 21:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw the anchor you added. But it's not an anchor to a section in a "List of characters" page, or even a paragraph (or sentence!) that's about Monroe. It's just a summary of the plot. This is a problem of MOS:EASTEREGG and MOS:DUPLINK: the link should match the reader's expectations ("I am being taken to content that describes who Monroe is") and not substantially duplicate an already-given link. — Bilorv (talk) 21:30, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- "the reader's expectations ("I am being taken to content that describes who Monroe is": that's what the anchored link does :-) It's not an Easter egg: clicking on that character's name brings you to the text about that character, so you don't have to scroll the whole Waldo article to find who Monroe is. Apokrif (talk) 21:45, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's not useful to have, as here, two links in the same row of a table, the first to the top paragraph of an article and the second to the second paragraph of the same article. I'm saying that it's an Easter egg because I did not expect to be taken to where the link points to. — Bilorv (talk) 11:16, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- I don't get your point. Liam Monroe should be expected to bring the reader to text about Monroe. Apokrif (talk) 17:52, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's not useful to have, as here, two links in the same row of a table, the first to the top paragraph of an article and the second to the second paragraph of the same article. I'm saying that it's an Easter egg because I did not expect to be taken to where the link points to. — Bilorv (talk) 11:16, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- "the reader's expectations ("I am being taken to content that describes who Monroe is": that's what the anchored link does :-) It's not an Easter egg: clicking on that character's name brings you to the text about that character, so you don't have to scroll the whole Waldo article to find who Monroe is. Apokrif (talk) 21:45, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw the anchor you added. But it's not an anchor to a section in a "List of characters" page, or even a paragraph (or sentence!) that's about Monroe. It's just a summary of the plot. This is a problem of MOS:EASTEREGG and MOS:DUPLINK: the link should match the reader's expectations ("I am being taken to content that describes who Monroe is") and not substantially duplicate an already-given link. — Bilorv (talk) 21:30, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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I have sent you a note about a page you started
[edit]Hi Apokrif. Thank you for your work on TWINT. Another editor, Klbrain, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:
Creating a separate article from the long-standing redirect looks like a very helpful step. The recent translation from parts of the German article has also been helpful, and it does look like this is a viable page.
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Please leave the Oversight policy alone
[edit]It's nice that you've decided (without discussion) to create a whole new category related to Oversight. Your personal preferences don't override longstanding community agreement on what categories this policy should be under. If you want, add your category. Don't remove other ones. Thanks. Risker (talk) 02:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't remove a relevant category again. See also WP:BOLD. Apokrif (talk) 02:48, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should go back and re-read WP:Be bold. It tells you not to be upset if your boldness is reverted. It tells you to be careful when dealing with policies. Often, these things have been worked out over a long period. Your category is on shaky ground, at best; it sounds like one that belongs in article namespace, not Wikipedia namespace. Risker (talk) 03:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- IIRC the use of the Wikipedia: prefix for category names is unfortunately not recommended (although I used this prefix on the French Wikipedia as I find it useful for the reason you mention). Feel free to rename the category to a clearer (meta-looking) name if possible! Apokrif (talk) 03:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was about to template you for being a disruptive editor until I realized you had tens of thousands of edits over decades. If I still had my tools I'd block you, and I think Risker is being generous for not doing so. Please stop. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which disruption? Apokrif (talk) 03:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- That would be the unexplained removal of categories on the page. Yes, you need to explain that when you are doing it. Risker (talk) 03:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I explained it: redundant with the categorization of a category the page is in. Apokrif (talk) 03:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- That would be the unexplained removal of categories on the page. Yes, you need to explain that when you are doing it. Risker (talk) 03:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which disruption? Apokrif (talk) 03:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should go back and re-read WP:Be bold. It tells you not to be upset if your boldness is reverted. It tells you to be careful when dealing with policies. Often, these things have been worked out over a long period. Your category is on shaky ground, at best; it sounds like one that belongs in article namespace, not Wikipedia namespace. Risker (talk) 03:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, but it is NOT redundant, except for your own personal actions. Now, let's talk about Category:Wikipedia_oversighters. I'm going to ask that it be deleted. Because when you look at the list of users and select "oversighters", you get the current list, based on actual user permissions, instead of a category that requires constant maintenance. Not only that, but the maintained list of oversighters is over in the functionaries templates. It's a curated list already. You're making work for other people by creating these categories, and creating categories that are duplicates of information that is available in a better, completely up-to-date format elsewhere. Risker (talk) 03:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- "category that requires constant maintenance": if that's what worries you, I don't intend to include each oversighter in the category I created. Perhaps you mixed
Category:Wikipedia oversighters up with Category:Wikipedia oversight? Apokrif (talk) 04:28, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Valid point. Poked around, the "oversighters" category (and its parallel, the "checkusers" category) were created before SUL, when they may have made sense, but they're of more harm than good today when they're not maintained. (I've put them both up for deletion.) Perhaps the non-personal pages may be useful in Category:Oversight. Risker (talk) 04:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, Aprokrif, I think perhaps it would be best to rename the category you created to Category:English Wikipedia Oversight (note the capitalization of "Oversight" because the lower case isn't specific to the user permission). Do you have any objection? If that's good with you, then I'll move the few non-OS category members over to that category. Risker (talk) 05:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 24 December 2024
[edit]- From the archives: Where to draw the line in reporting?
- Recent research: "Wikipedia editors are quite prosocial", but those motivated by "social image" may put quantity over quality
- Gallery: A feast of holidays and carols
- Traffic report: Was a long and dark December