User:PA0116

You're probably right about the tanglewood gang comeing from yonkers.. i really don't know about that. But i DO know there is a tanglewood street and area in staten.

I'm not sure who originally added the bit about phobias but i think the fact that a character actively suggested the possibility that, that might be enough to suggest it as a possibility here. I think you're totally right about the claustrophobia however... I don't know who included that but I've been trying to weed it out for a while.

As for the mention of Cindy, I fail to see why this should go? She WAS mentioned. There's no rule that a character has to be introduced on camera to be valid. I think someone though she was valid enough to go here just because after she was first brought up on there show there was always a possibility she would become a bigger character. Just because that didn't turn out doesn't mean she OUGHT to be ignored. On top of that someone took the time to document mention of her so i don't see what her one line of text is hurting there...

Danny, I think, is defiantly regarded by a lot of people as a playboy and a bit of a bed hopper, but I don't mind toning down that suggestion. I think many of his comments, particularly in season one lead people to this idea. That aside I think the fact that this block of text talks about "assumptions" again indicates that it might very well not be fact. Just a point of view some watchers have come to.

After all when Aiden suggested he'd been to a a sleazy massage parlor to get some he replied saying "i have girlfriends for that." Plural. That sounds a lot like he's got more than one woman on the go, most of the time.

As for Cindy, like I said I think people thought she would go somewhere so merited being brought up. Just like people thought Mac's date Rose might show up again or Don's girlfriend Devon. The way Danny regarded her also, I think was kind of an indicator of his private life too, his part time girlfriends if you will. Perhaps she could be removed from her own heading and replace the bit about danny being a 'serial womanizer". Would that be alright from your POV? Roximonoxide (talk) 05:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I have altered the relationships section to ensure it doesn't suggest that a "general consensus" think Danny is promiscuous, but just "many people" which I believe is appropriate to say. It also now says multiple girlfriends was alluded to in the script which is much more factual and neutral.Roximonoxide (talk) 06:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

"Just as "many" people think Danny is NOT a playboy."

You're right, and by saying "SOME PEOPLE" the wording implied SOME people do not feel this way.

"Saying he's had girlfriends doesn't imply that at all. A man in his thirties will most likely have had multiple girlfriends throughout his life."

His quote uses the present tense. "HAS girlfriends for this" indicating he may currently be seeing multiple women.

"Also, to say he was "leering" at waitresses is a bit much. Leering is often seen as vulgar, and Danny was in no way vulgar in that scene. PA0116"

what would you prefer her "checking out" the waitress? Because he definitely did that. Whether or not you think Danny's behavior was vulgar here is your opinion.Roximonoxide (talk) 06:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I really don't feel like warring you on this. I'd like to reach a compromise here and am offering as much.Roximonoxide (talk) 06:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Is there something you feel we could add to it for you to justify leaving it in? I feel like I'm making most of the compromises here.Roximonoxide (talk) 06:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it's ridiculous that you won't accept another POV in a WIKI. Just because you don't think it's says something about someones promiscuity to have multiple relationships doesn't mean SOME people can't. I've watered down these statements enough in effort to compromise with you and so this no longer seems like any such majority feel this way and that it is, at best, only an opinion held by SOME viewers. Considering a wiki tries to maintain COLLECTIVE information with as neutral a stance as possible, I don't think this factually supported notion being left in is asking much at all.Roximonoxide (talk) 07:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

You also seem to still be under the impression Danny said he "had" (past tense) girlfriends which is not what was said. Again, he said he "has" as in the current, present tense. This tense implies he maintains more than one relationship at a time, and in juggling relationships I think that pretty clearly suggest some level of promiscuity.Roximonoxide (talk) 07:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)