Talk:Water cremation

Merge with Tissue digestion ?

I propose that Resomation be merged into Tissue digestion. The former is based on a couple of articles discussing the process basically from the POV of a single commercial venture without historical background, and the latter is only a more process-oriented stub. Combining the two should produce a more balanced article of suitable length. — OttoMäkelä (talk) 12:23, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Legality update for California

Assembly Bill no. 967 has been approved by Senate and singed by Governor. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billStatusClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB967 66.214.140.29 (talk) 18:48, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Washington State

Effective 5/1/2020, Senate Bill 5001 concerns alkaline hydrolysis and recomposition as allowable reduction methods for handling deceased persons' bodies for their disposition. Cryoplex (talk) 00:14, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

References

Disposal

I highly doubt that a mixture of hydrolysis products and caustic potash can be dumped down the drain (in most countries) without further treatment. I also doubt that the solids remaining constitute only 2% of (intact) body mass - a quick Google search returns ~15% as the bone wt. fraction in the human (male?) and a deeper dive indicates that ~60-70% of that (dry wt.) is hydroxyapatite. I'd guess that KOH doesn't react with that. (Water is less than 5% of bone mass). Even 50% of 10% is 5%, lot more than 2%! The other thing that seems to be missing is whether or not the process itself requires agitation (stirring) (or even comminution) to break down the tissues/structures over just a couple of hours.207.155.85.22 (talk) 01:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

As a chemist, I agree with you. The whole thing sounds ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:6AE5:2510:0:0:0:46 (talk) 19:36, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

a mixture of hydrolysis products and caustic potash One can argue that it's just a bad day with the drain cleaner. At the end of the day we are potassium soap, soap gunk from the stuff other than potassium, glycerol, a big pool of amino acids, other organic stuff, and bones. Who doesn't send soap down the drain?

solids remaining constitute only 2% of (intact) body mass Bad reading. The claim is that 2% is the solid + inorganic solute content of the effluent. Bone is not part of that figure, because it is not part of the effluent.

whether or not the process itself requires agitation (stirring) (or even comminution) Optional, if you read the TAMU ref. "b Water consumption will be minimized if [...] and if the carcasses are shredded instead of intact and contain a highly agitated mixture of materials." Just use more water and wait longer. Artoria2e5 🌉 06:42, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

"Water Burial" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Water Burial has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 8 § Water Burial until a consensus is reached. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:51, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 8 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (closed by non-admin page mover) BegbertBiggs (talk) 11:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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Alkaline hydrolysis (body disposal) → Water cremation – Move to an alternative name for WP:NATURAL disambiguation. The terms "water cremation" and "liquid cremation" or "aquamation" seem to be used in reliable sources nearly as much or more than "alkaline hydrolysis". Leave alkaline hydrolysis as the title for the scientific basis, and title this article with a more common term that naturally describes the topic, i.e. use a term that includes cremation. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:23, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.