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Untitled

In articles where Ancient Macedonia, the Greek province of Macedonia and FYROM are all mentioned in the same breath, clarification of the latter is especially important. And yes, FYROM is the formal name in the United Nations. Regards, Sysin

GR-2

Greek National Road 2 now links to Via Egnatia. If the two are not identical, then a separate article on GR-2 is necessary. Andreas 14:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Modern non-English names

Historical entities do not need their names written in the lead in all the modern languages spoken in the territories related to the topic, unless the entity still exist as a modern location. We don't say "Limes Arabicus (Arabic: ....)". We don't say: "Via Aquitania (French: ...)". Just as we don't translate names of historical events, names of ancient historical personalities, names of plants, animals, whatever. We are not a dictionary. Only place names that are still inhabited regularly get that treatment. I'm in favour of removing all the modern language names again. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So would we add Latin, and keep the Greek, just add Latin, or neither? _{El Greco}^(talk) 15:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The title is already in Latin. The name has to be mentioned in Ancient or Byzantine or whatever Greek, not in modern Greek though. Even if it's the same in Modern Greek, it should read:

"Via Egnatia (Ancient Greek:Ignatia Odos) was a...."

I'm assuming that's why people added names in other modern languages. Balkan Fever 01:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it should read simply "Greek" as it does now, but I've added the contemporary polytonic orthography which is no longer used for modern Greek. Your distinction is a false one; ancient and modern Greek are just different historical stages of the same language. And I've removed the languages that were not present in the area at all when the ancient road was in use. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The road was certainly still used in Byzantine times (and described by Byzantine historians), so the Greek term is appropriate - it was as much a Byzantine Greek road as it was a Roman one. -- ChrisO (talk) 07:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the current version represents a fair compromise. The polytonic orthography means that post-1982 modern Greek is excluded, so that should allay any nationalist-inspired envy. As for BalkanFever's "Ancient Greek" suggestion, it is not quite accurate; Ἐγνατία Ὁδός is also Byzantine and early modern Greek. The only term that covers all three neatly and succinctly is simply "Greek". ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 08:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the modern translations again that have crept in again in the meantime. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

That's the name of this country. UN hasn't recognise it with the name you wrote it.

You say you are moderator and want to keep the lines. Only UN decides for the names on the maps! not you mister! The recognised name from the UN is Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

Don't make your own judgements! You are not even from Balkans. Just be fair. No more no less. Are u able to do it or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mantikos1 (talk • contribs) 05:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Melantias - Silivria

one of the city of the Via Egnatia, Silivria, is called Melantias during the ancient time. But there is no mention of this name in the article for Silivria. The only mention is the ancient Greek name: Selymbria/Selybria. Should "Melantias" be added in the article for Silivria.--Rochelimit (talk) 21:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. Silivri/Selymbria is too far west to be Melanthias [Melantiada in the Antonine Itinerary]. I marked it as dubious but might go farther.74.96.58.116 (talk) 22:54, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Caenophrium - Corlu?

Marked as dubious. The Antonine Itinerary puts Cenofrurium on the road between Heraclia and Melantiada to Byzantium. It lists Izirallum [Tzirallum??] separately. Don't want to replace the article with original research, but I do think we have a problem with the current unreferenced listing. 74.96.58.116 (talk) 22:59, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I created a separate article for Cænophrurium, added some refs about the possible locations (at Sinekli in Silivri district, or at Çorlu) and redirected the links to separate these entities. Wish there was some better modern source with clear details on towns of Roman Thrace, but I haven't found it.Rupert Clayton (talk) 01:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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