Talk:The American (statue)

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url looks to be down now :/ theamerican.com, that is —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawz101 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Booyah: Urban Tulsa Weekly says the project is still on, just laying low due to the economy: Urban Tulsa Weekly Link —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitweever (talk • contribs) 18:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the article this project is dead. June 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.197.59.178 (talk) 20:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly makes this a "mountain monument"? The text says it will be a bronze statue.--Pharos 02:46, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is a big chance this will never be built.They havent even got all the funds yet

I live in Tulsa. I for one believe this monument is an excellent idea. my only problem is the proposed location. they are placing it way on the outside of the tulsa city limits. how do you expect to have and maintain public interest and excitement when you put the monument out in the rural. i believe out of sight is unfortunately out of mind in this case. in my opinion the monument should have been built inside tulsa either at the OSU campus overlooking downtown or at Turkey Mountain, close to where the proposed Native American center is going to be built. Each location has direct access to the major highways in tulsa and make a dramatic statement for the area.

putting the monument out in the middle of nowhere is a mistake and it should be moved inside the tulsa city limits.

I think this article might have to be scraped or revised, "completion is expected sometime in 2007"...? Not one brick has been laid yet.

Another "The American"

"The American" is also the name of a bimonthly "magazine of ideas for business leaders" founded by James K. Glassman in 2006. See http://www.american.com/about-us. Cheers, CWC 15:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New information

I added references to a renewed completion date for this project based on news articles that say the developers recently talked to the Tulsa City Council and confirmed the new dates. The project is not dead; as someone suggested removing this article in a previous post.Okiefromokla 20:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All the references and links on this page as of June 27, 2009 lead to 404 or Page Not Found messages. In the interests of not wasting future readers' time, I have deleted the defective ones, which is to say, all of them. Functional references are more than welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.212.235 (talk) 00:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the Article

Well, not just yet. But maybe by early December, if no more news comes out. What does everybody think about doing away with this article around then? I say early December because according to the last news stuff that came out, they claim it will break ground in late 2007 (see article). Okiefromokla•talk 16:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let me rephrase that. We should wait until January 2008 to take any action, as the "late 2007" deadline set by the developers includes December 2007. And even then, that might be debated, as I'm not sure it completely fails notibility as a statue that was proposed, but never got off the ground. Others might disagree, but for the time being, we should wait until early 2008 to decide any changes to this. Okiefromokla's sockpuppet/talk 23:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree 11/13/2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.197.59.178 (talk) 15:49, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with Okie. Unless you have inside information regarding the true status of this proposed monument, it would be presumptuous on your part to conclude the project is dead. Lack of evidence is not evidence. Also, your "early 08" deadline is appears arbitrary. Upon what reasonable basis are you basing this date? Is it simply because we don't know any firm construction dates as of yet? Is it that the project is not moving fast enough for you? Do you have evidence regarding the status of permits or fundraising, or the status of equipment and materials, or a contractor/labor force? A project of this scale takes time and planning, which may not be on your early 08' timeline. Therefore, I argue the article should stay until there is official word on the future of the monument. Although I do believe the city/county leaders or those over the project could do a better job keeping the public informed about the status of this project. As it stands, without further evidence, it is still a go. At the very least before deleting a Wikipedia article regarding this important and possibly historic piece of art, you should contact the artist and get a statement from him of whether the project is going to be completed. littlrk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.213.147.155 (talk) 19:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No deletion - I share 72.213.147.155's optimism, even though that's not the point. WP:Notability is not temporary is a good little reminder here. This could always an article about a statue that never got off the ground. In the mean time, I guess I've changed my mind and am more apt to look at it as the Anon user. There's just no information, so at the moment this should remain an article about a planned statue. Okiefromokla ^questions? 02:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think its time to delete the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.187.154.33 (talk) 22:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do NOT delete the article - There has been recent news that the American statue will be built and it set to be built in Sand Springs, Oklahoma. Here's the source: http://www.newson6.com/story/22676104/sand-springs-city-council-approves-plan-for-21-story-statue.Jbstar11 ^questions? 16:03, 14 August 2013 (CDT)

Thank you for pointing this out; I was on an extended internetless vacation around then and didn't see that story. More recently, The Wall Street Journal has also written about the project: [1]. I've added both sources to the article. --Arxiloxos (talk) 23:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]