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Merge proposal

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I propose to merge Transend Networks into this article. Notwithstanding the merge of companies TasNetworks took over all obligations of Transend Networks and therefore should be considered as the same company. Second, both article a quite short and dividing this short information between two articles is not justified. Third, there is significant overlapping between these articles. Therefore, merging them will create a more comprehensive overview of this company. Beagel (talk) 09:49, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose (Disclosure, I have a potential COI) They are totally separate companies, with different boards, executives, and so on, despite the similar names. Ex-Transend employees only make up around 20% of the TasNetworks workforce. (I can find references for this and update both articles.) -- Chuq (talk) 10:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose They're legally different companies. Every time government utilities get merged or broken up or sold, we go through something like this (I remember someone wanted to merge the Telecom and Telstra articles once, for instance). Miracle Pen (talk) 18:13, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: After this discussion being stagnant for months, I've removed the tags from both pages. -- Chuq (talk) 11:49, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wording change

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I’ve been approached by TasNetworks media/comms staff with a concern/question - a Google search for “transmission tasmania” or “electricity transmission tasmania” comes up with the Wikipedia page for Transend Networks in the first few results, and the Wikipedia page for TasNetworks doesn’t show up at all. I realise we aren’t in the job of doing their SEO for them, but this does sound like things aren’t working as they should, since Transend Networks as a business hasn’t existed since July 2014 and TasNetworks has been the Tasmanian electricity transmission company since then – over two years. There are a few things I have noticed which could correct this:

  • Alter the lede for TasNetworks to replace the words "transmits and distributes" to "transmission and distribution"
  • Alter the categories for Transend Networks to reflect that it is a former company
  • Add a hatnote to Transend Networks (won’t affect Google results, but will inform readers)

I’ll make these changes over the next few days unless there are any issues? -- Chuq (talk) 01:06, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed editorial changes and corrections

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Please note: I work in the media/comms team at TasNetworks (this is my declared conflict of interest). I have not requested changes to a Wikipedia page before - I hope this makes sense. My changes hopefully comply with conflict of interest expectations. I have picked up some errors and would like to update the text so that it reads a little better. I have also added an additional statement relating to the unusual nature of the Tasmanian power network (that it's predominantly renewably sourced power).

I have struggled a little to understand how to insert references properly - essentially we don't want to change any of them - they've just been reordered.

Thanks in advance!


The requested changes are as follows:

Right-hand-side grey box:

Area served: Tasmania - change to: Area served: Tasmania and mainland Australia

Body text, first paragraph, first sentence: Replace: Tasmanian Government owned corporation to [state owned company] After Tasmania add: and into mainland [Australia].

Body text, first paragraph, after second sentence: Add: The power network TasNetworks manages is unusual in Australia, insofar as most of Tasmania’s electricity is generated from [renewables] – [hydro], [wind] and some solar.

Body text, second paragraph, second sentence: Change to: Tasmania is connected to the NEM via the [Basslink] interconnector, which is a 370km (230mi) HVDC submarine cable.

Body text, second paragraph, third sentence: MOVE to be start of third paragraph: TasNetworks is a regulated monopoly that receives its revenue cap from the [Australian Energy Regulator].[1]

Body text, third paragraph: First sentence is former last sentence of second paragraph (as indicated above). Second sentence (which as been moved from end of body text and altered slightly): It has two shareholders, the Minister for Energy and the [Treasurer of Tasmania].[2]

Third sentence: TasNetworks was formed on 1 July 2014, following the merger of the transmission company [Transend Networks], which disbanded, and the distribution division of [Aurora Energy], which became a retail-only business.[3]

See also text: Keep/don't change

External links: keep/don't change

110.76.176.176 (talk) 01:06, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for declaring your conflict of Interest.
Like you, I'm unfamiliar with the correct process for dealing with this, but I've had a read of the Request Edit instructions, so I'll give it a go.
I don't think any of the proposed changes are highly controversial, but I do have two questions:
* Area served: I can't find any info which suggests that TasNetworks operates on mainland Australia. Can you provide a source?
* TasNetworks is a transmission and distribution company; not a generator, so I'm unsure why the usual Tasmanian generator type (i.e. renewable) is relevant to the article?
The other changes are fine. They are fine by NPOV, and UNDUE and could not be considered controversial. I will implement them soon. I hope I've interpreted your suggested movement of sentences between paragraphs correctly.Carlroddam (talk) 04:36, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: I have not added the suggested link to Guy Barnett's website, as the Minister will change over time. It would be better if there was a webpage for the Minister for Energy (as there is for the other shareholder, the Treasurer), however, sadly I cannot find such a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlroddam (talkcontribs) 05:04, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your thorough work! In response to your questions
Area Served - I understood this to mean area where we distribute power to - which is Tasmania and mainland Australia (this is through the basslink interconnector). I may have misunderstood what is meant by area served...
The renewables are of interest as they pose challenges to how power is distributed/transmitted given that, with the exception of Hydro, they are intermittent power generators. There has been some interest in how TasNetworks manages its network in this respect, but I see what you mean - this kind of information is possibly tangential to an encyclopedic entry.
And now I understand why there wasn't a link for the minister for energy in the first place! It totally makes sense not to have that link given the changeability of the ministers.
Thanks again. I'll check in again to see how the changes come out. I tried to make it clear, but it always gets confusing when text gets moved around!
110.76.176.176 (talk) 22:53, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Australian Energy Regulator - TasNetworks", Retrieved 17 August 2014.
  2. ^ "Corporate governance". TasNetworks. Retrieved 15 July 2016.
  3. ^ "Tasmania throws switch on retail energy competition". Australian Broadcasting Corporation. 1 July 2014. Retrieved 17 August 2014.

Hearsay - lying to public

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This sentence is referenced with [4], however the linked article by the ABC does not support the claim: "Tasnetworks are also known for lying to customers regarding brownouts that damage electrical devices."

Additional information or reference should be provided to support this claim. 14.2.135.41 (talk) 21:45, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]