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Ixquick vs Startpage : what are the engines used ?

The page should mention this basic missing information : which search engines are interrogated by ixquick, information that ixquick does not seem to mention on its website, probably on purpose. Seems that ixquick interrogates several popular search engines but not google, while its "twin" search engine called startpage interrogates only google. Confusion between ixquick and startpage that this omission induces, is also encouraged even in wikipedia since the startpage wikipedia page redirects to the ixquick page like if it was just two different names for the same engine. An explanation might be that ixquick was first introduced with the idea of competing with google by not giving users ID and not even giving anonymous search terms to google while they changed their mind with startpage who appeared later from them and coexists with ixquick now. If this is true there are many reasons why they might not be very proud of this change of mind and would want to hide it. To summarize, emphasis needed on search engines used by ixquick meta-engine and difference with startpage meta-engine. 20 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.82.30.122 (talk) 19:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How is this funded?

It doesn't appear to have adverts, nor the Wikipedia-style begging section! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Q Chris (talk • contribs) 21 September 2012

Startpage does have ads. Please also see: https://startpage.com/uk/company-background.html --Raban (talk) 08:52, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Startpage is makes money by serving ads from google advertising network. Some1234567890 (talk) 15:11, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Back here by Google.BR.1, so

[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.15.161.146 (talk) 01:27, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Only claims

They only *claim* not to store IP addresses etc. Nobody can prove that – this should be made clear in the article. --pcworld (talk) 23:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

just check the ref link to the European privacy award for the testing methods ... https://www.european-privacy-seal.eu/press-room/press-releases/20080714-europrise-press-release-en.html Kulturdenkmal (talk) 23:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A detailed report can be found here: https://www.european-privacy-seal.eu/awarded-seals/de-110022/Ixquick%20Short%20Public%20Report%20v3.0.pdf Kulturdenkmal (talk) 00:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The report does not include any proof of anything. The statement holds true, everything is based on their own claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.96.244.202 (talk) 10:58, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong date

Under the section Startpage.com, it says Tor started using it February 19, 2015, although Tor has used it long before then. 184.59.104.40 (talk) 22:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reference? - Ahunt (talk) 13:54, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ixquick is based where?

The introductory text still claims it's based in New York, but the history section seems to say it was discontinued in the US in 2016? Their about pages only say they were founded in New York, but the address is now in the Netherlands?: https://www.ixquick.com/eng/company.html https://www.ixquick.eu/eng/company.html https://www.startpage.com/eng/company.html?

So should the intro text be updated and say it's based in Netherlands only (perhaps mentioning it was founded in New York)?

And maybe one of those about pages should be the reference instead of metamend?

Interstates (talk) 09:27, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ixquick vs Startpage : why is the entry for startpage.com a redirect to this page?

Startpage is the search engine in operation now. Ixquick is just a historical footnote. Why this strange redirect? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.194.62.212 (talk) 15:09, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That is a good point. At one time the main search engine was Ixquick and Startpage was of subsidiary importance, but the article seems to have been overtaken by events. Perhaps it should be moved to Startpage.com and Ixquick redirected there? Any other thoughts? - Ahunt (talk) 15:15, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it should be flipped around. The article should be about Startpage, and Ixquick should be a historical section within the Startpage article. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 18:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. Ixquick has been renamed to StartPage. I will attempt to make some modifications to this article. Somerandomuser (talk) 03:10, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That would be great. It can be moved to Startpage.com as well when you are done. - Ahunt (talk) 11:24, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry I missed that conversation, but I did some edits today to make the article about Startpage rather than Ixquick. I opened this talk page to paste the rename request. Hope it is all ok! Nclm (talk) 11:30, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 October 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Ahunt (talk) 14:52, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ixquick → Startpage.com – Startpage is the current name of the service. The rename is not currently possible due to Startpage.com being a redirect page. Nclm (talk) 11:30, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support - seems to be a logical move and meets WP:COMMONNAME. If we can gain a consensus here I can make the move. - Ahunt (talk) 11:38, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support - • Sbmeirow • Talk • 12:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- HLachman (talk) 07:25, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Appears to be common name. — Newslinger talk 01:48, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has gone on for more than a week now with all in favour and none opposed, so I think we have a consensus. I'll move the page. - Ahunt (talk) 14:42, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Ahunt (talk) 14:45, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Totally confused

So StartPage is a privacy-respecting search engine that pays Google, a non-privacy-respecting search engine, to display its results. Have I fallen into Wonderland along with Alice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.5.140 (talk) 20:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong. Text in the reference section says "So we’re paying them to use their brilliant search results in order to remove all trackers and logs.", which means google doesn't know who is using startpage. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 00:16, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly am I wrong about? Even if their claims are true (which is kinda moot anyway because The Netherlands is a Nine Eyes country), your comment is totally unrelated to mine. You might as well have written "I like hotdogs" for all the relevance your comment bore to mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.5.140 (talk) 19:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that Startpage displays Google Search results, but it searches Google anonymously, so individual users can't be tracked. So users get Google results without giving up any privacy. - Ahunt (talk) 18:45, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I know how Startpage works. I was making a point that for some reason people don't seem to understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.5.140 (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you need to explain what you think needs changing in the article then, because I don't understand what the issue is. - Ahunt (talk) 20:22, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Search vs. Metasearch

I believe, Startpage.com as several other engines on Wikipedia are wrongly labeled as search engines, rather than metasearch engines. While this might sound as a technicist, not important detail, it is in fact a clear distinguishing between engines providing full fledged crawling and query decoding and those creating added value by agregating results from other search engines. I'm willing to update the article in this way. - michal.feix (michal.feix) 15:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Except that startpage.com is not "metasearch", it simply returns single source Google results anonymously. - Ahunt (talk) 12:34, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Startpage, acquired. Any mention ?

Hi there !

Just wanted to "report" or have some clarification about this, seems that Startpage/Startmail is now System1 property.

Must probably take a look to → https://restoreprivacy.com/startpage-system1-privacy-one-group/.

I'm too tired right now for modifying anything or whatever, I just let this here.

Good luck ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB10:81D8:BB00:59D:555B:6F7F:CBCC (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Snowden's comments on using Startpage.com already seem dated and are nullified herewith? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.10.241.5 (talk) 19:41, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Too many citations on 'startpage.com'?

I asked a question about this here if anyone is interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Too_many_citations_on_%27startpage.com%27%3F — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disoff (talk • contribs) 22:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, good point,

Done - Ahunt (talk) 00:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1) This cleanup was fine by me (thanks), but I feel a more common problem on Wikipedia are "under linked" articles, deadlinks in all articles, and links to random 3rd party websites/blogs that were only added to direct traffic for their benefit. 2) Though I don't have a problem with the removal of press releases in this article (per teahouse comment), I do consider the use of press releases useful when I have a hard time finding content to validate OLD corporate acquisition/merge dates, and dates when OLD products were announced/released. Unfortunately, some useful content is hidden behind paywalls (which I avoid), and may use a press release as an alternative. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 01:20, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

remove ".com" from the title

why .com 2A02:908:2054:8320:41AF:C820:73D3:737A (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is it still functioning?

Is startpage (search engine) functioning in 2024?