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Information that should be incorporated into main article
[edit]The following was under "Island facts":
- According to the World Conservation Union’s (IUCN)’s Global Species Assessment report, of all recorded species extinctions since 1500 A.D., “In total, 62 percent of mammals, 88 percent of birds, 54 percent of amphibians, 86 percent of reptiles, and 68 percent of mollusks were island species.”
- David Quammen states on page 264 of his book The Song of the Dodo, since 1600 “Lord Howe Island, a lonesome little bump halfway between Australia and New Zealand, lost more species and subspecies of bird than the combined total lost in Africa, Asia, and Europe.” On page 379 of the same book, Quammen writes that “Hawaii alone has lost more bird species than were lost from all the continents on Earth.”
- Dr. Peter J. Bryant, professor of development and cell biology at the University of California, Irvine has written that the unprecedented rate of island species extinctions is “one of the swiftest and most profound biological catastrophes in the history of the earth.”
- According to a 2006 study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the top ten mammal ‘extinction hotspots’ worldwide are all located on islands. The Pacific Islands have the highest per capita number of rare, threatened and endangered species of any region on Earth.
- The island nations of Indonesia and the Philippines have more species threatened with extinction than any other nations on this planet.
This information should be incorporated, in a neutral fashion, to the main article. As it is I don't feel it's appropriate under one section entitled "Island facts". - Tbsdy lives (talk) 23:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- I will incorporate what I can find sources for. As I stated below, I plan to re-write the article, and neutrality will be one of the goals. – VisionHolder « talk » 00:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Lack of references
[edit]I am preparing to re-write this article from the ground up. Because the existing content is not sourced, the work will be a lot harder. Unless sources can be found for this material by the end of the week, I will be deleting it in preparation of the re-write. – VisionHolder « talk » 00:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- The article has been completely rewritten. This is the first time I have written a full article about an organization. If there are issues of neutrality, please post your concerns. – VisionHolder « talk » 00:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | The lede, article organization, the infobox, and the end sections are all excellent. |
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2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | The References section is great. |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | In all my spotchecks, the sources fully back up the data, and there is no plagiarism or close paraphrasing. Excellent and reliable. |
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2c. it contains no original research. | Not a problem. |
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3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | Absolutely. |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | It's very long, but I don't think it goes into unnecessary detail on any facet. |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | I searched for reliable sources of criticism of Seacology, but couldn't find anything. |
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7. Overall assessment. | Very nice. This article has truly earned GA status. |
Issues
[edit]1a:The first sentence in History needs to be split.
- Done. – VisionHolder « talk » 09:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
1a:"When cyclone Ofa destroyed the primary school in 1990..." What primary school? The one in Falealupo? It isn't clear.
- Done. – VisionHolder « talk » 09:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
1a:The sentence that begins "In a worst-case scenario," sounds as if it's trying to convince the reader that this approach is superior to others. I understand that it comes from a quote by Erdmann in the source. I believe this should either be reworded or attributed as an opinion.
- Thank you for catching this. This is precisely the kind of thing I hoped you would help me locate and fix during the GAN review. For this case, I've chosen to attribute the statement. Please let me know if it looks okay. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- All good.
- Thank you for catching this. This is precisely the kind of thing I hoped you would help me locate and fix during the GAN review. For this case, I've chosen to attribute the statement. Please let me know if it looks okay. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
1b:The lede mentions "the continual loss of unique island cultures". I have no doubt that's true, but I don't see it supported in the text. (The "high risk of extinction for island fauna and the decline in coral reef ecosystems" part is fully expanded in the text, however.)
- Very good catch. I thought I had covered it in the body, but I did not. Reviewing my sources, I have nothing to support it. I tried finding a new source and came up blank. Therefore, I've removed the mention from the lead. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- Fair enough.
- Very good catch. I thought I had covered it in the body, but I did not. Reviewing my sources, I have nothing to support it. I tried finding a new source and came up blank. Therefore, I've removed the mention from the lead. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- Minor question: The lede and body describe how Seacology efforts helped protect the Hainan black crested gibbon, "the rarest primate in the world". Is there some way we could link to the featured list The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates? That list only gives the species Eastern black crested gibbon, not the subspecies, so I don't know if there's a way these could be linked without straining the text. Still, it would be nice if it's possible.
- Good idea... I added a link in the lead. Let me know if that's alright. (Btw, I'm glad to see people are aware of that list and that it's getting decent daily traffic. It was a pain to write, but very rewarding.) – VisionHolder « talk » 18:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
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- Thank you! This was good timing before being featured on the front page. Tonystewart14 (talk) 04:57, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
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