Talk:Roosevelt Island
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Need information
[edit]Need information on following:
Roosevelt Island (NY):
Landscape/Environment: forest, water resources, bodies of water and rivers,contours of land, air temp/humidity,climate/micro climate,precipitation throughout the year,wind patterns, soil, geology.
Physoical Environmental assesment:air quality,water quality/quantity,soil classification and risk,fish and animal life,aquatic and terrestrial vegetation,physical and mental health of inhabbitants, phylosophy of environmental planning in regrds to conservation,preservation and green design.
- Why? It is in the main Manhattan article. Epicgenius (talk) 14:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Missing info
[edit]Heyho. There seems to be an aerial lift (Gondola lift?) going from Manhattan to Roosevelt Island; I heard about it due to an electrical failure in it yesterday (the 18th of march, 2006). It was built in 1976 as a passenger ferry to Roosevelt Island, and is supposedly the only lift of it's type in the US. It travels at up to 45 meters high... and I know nothing more about it. --Smári McCarthy 20:18, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Should there be some information on the reasons for the sequence of name changes? Agingjb (talk) 07:29, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Map
[edit]A map would be nice to illustrate the location of the island with regards the rest of New York. KTo288 20:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Demographics
[edit]Can the statement in the demographics section "The racial makeup of the island was 45% white (non-Hispanic), 27% black, 14% Hispanics or Latinos, 11% Asian or Pacific Islander, and .3% other races." be backed up by any reference, or is it made up ? UrbanNerd (talk) 02:18, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
- The source was in the previous paragraph, the Roosevelt Island Operating Corporation, which is the source for all the demographic information in the section. I've made that explicit for each of the paragraphs. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
- Opps, my mistake. I must have missed that when I went to the link. Thanks. UrbanNerd (talk) 03:12, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Demographics
[edit]Can the 2010 demographics breakdown be corrected? It adds up to 118.7%, so there's clearly something wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Balti (talk • contribs) 12:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Prose?
[edit]Should the history timeline be in prose? I'm gonna put a prose tag on it and see if anyone changes it. Agent 78787 (talk) 23:17, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
- I changed it. Sometimes prose is better, and sometimes a list is. In this case -- a timeline -- prose would just ended up being the list reformatted into paragraphs, making it harder to read. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:42, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
two islands
[edit]Contradictory info between related articles: This article about Wouter Van Twiller claims he purchased "Governors Island" Wouter Van Twiller
However, this article about "Roosevelt Island" claims it was purchased by Wouter Van Twiller (from the same group of Indians). Roosevelt Island
1. These are two different islands. 2. The Indian Tribe's name is spelled slightly differently on both pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.28.142.49 (talk) 22:44, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know much about history, but I do know that spellings of Indian names have often been uncertain. —Tamfang (talk) 23:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- Governor's Island is located in the New York Harbor south of Manhattan. Maybe the two transactions were the same. In any case, the original poster is confused. Epicgenius(talk to me • see my contributions) 19:18, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- According to Burrows, Edwin G. and Wallace, Mike (1999). Gotham: A History of New York City to 1898. New York: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-195-11634-8. "At one time or another Van Twiller owned what are now Governors, Wards, and Roosevelt Island..." (p.29), so there's no contradiction. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
- Governor's Island is located in the New York Harbor south of Manhattan. Maybe the two transactions were the same. In any case, the original poster is confused. Epicgenius(talk to me • see my contributions) 19:18, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Why was it called Welfare Island
[edit]When I first heard this name years ago, I had assumed New York had built public housing on the island. Or was it because of the location of the hospital? Shouldn't the reason for the name be given in the article?__209.179.80.169 (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Done by Jim.henderson. It was renamed for the hospitals, this source may be handy: 50.14.142.33 (talk) 11:16, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- "Smallpox Hospital (Renwick Ruin)". rihs.us. Roosevelt Island Historical Society. Retrieved 2014-11-16.
Yes, if memory serves, the island was a splendid place for contagious diseases which were rife in the 19th century, being isolated yet inside City limits. North Brother Island was even better for the most difficult cases such as Typhoid Mary. Madhouses were also put in both islands. Out of sight, out of mind, so to speak. Hardly anyone lived there except inmates and staff. Later, better sewers and better understanding reduced the problem of infection. And eventually antibiotics. Old hospitals were lightly maintained and closed when they became obsolete and run-down, new hospitals in more convenient locations having taken up the load. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
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Suggested Article Improvements
[edit]I asked (via Twitter) if anyone could identify areas for improvement on the article and received a few answers that I am going to document here so that we can track recommended edits. Suggestions were made by twitter users minnehanonck and RI_Daily
- Recreation: Add: Octagon tennis courts, Sportspark, tennis bubble and image of garden club
- Parking: There are no limits, especially in the canyon. There are no "car free zones," just parks without roads.
- Media: The WIRE has not published in over two years. "The Daily is not "an opinion blog," but an online newspaper and far more than simply my perspective."- quote from David Stone, regarding the characterization of the Roosevelt Islander. (Via same twitter thread)
- Buildings: Both Rivercross and Island House have left Mitchell-Lama. Under architecture, Northtown also includes Manhattan Park.
- Organizations: Roosevelt Island Parent Network. Also, Roosevelt Island Visual Art Association, the Residents Association, Roosevelt Island Day Nursery, and also the Main Street Theater and Dance Alliance.
- Residents current residents should include international philanthropist Jim Luce (Roosevelt Landings) and legendary pianist Roy Eaton (Rivercross), a member of the Advertising Hall of Fame. Add former resident, legendary writer Alice Childress
Iamjessklein (talk) 00:04, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Re:Residents. There are Wikipedia pages for Roy Eaton and Alice Childress (but not Jim Luce). Now I'm looking for any citations or reference material that says they were/are island residents. Iamjessklein (talk) 00:24, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Twitter user @iDig2Learnadded the comment that " Roosevelt Islanders created an expanding Monarch butterfly corridor throughout the island to combat the species 85% population loss by planting the host plant milkweed, & nectar rich plants like Aster and Goldenrod at Lighthouse Park, P.S. 217 & gardens" Iamjessklein (talk) 12:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- We cannot use tweets as a source unless the tweeter is a regonized authority on the subject and the account is verified. Beyond My Ken (talk)
- Twitter user @iDig2Learnadded the comment that " Roosevelt Islanders created an expanding Monarch butterfly corridor throughout the island to combat the species 85% population loss by planting the host plant milkweed, & nectar rich plants like Aster and Goldenrod at Lighthouse Park, P.S. 217 & gardens" Iamjessklein (talk) 12:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- Re:Residents. There are Wikipedia pages for Roy Eaton and Alice Childress (but not Jim Luce). Now I'm looking for any citations or reference material that says they were/are island residents. Iamjessklein (talk) 00:24, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Delete out of date "famous poeple" section?
[edit]Are there good criteria on who is famous? This section on people seems outdated and possibly inappropriate for an area as large as this. --Mmcdougall (talk) 20:35, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- The section name is Notable residents and visitors. It is a Wikipedia principle that notability is not temporary, unlike fame. Since they all have Wikipedia articles, their notability has been established. IMO the only thing that would be outdated is Current residents, who in that case should be moved to Former residents. -- Pemilligan (talk) 23:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Literature (missing)
[edit]E.L. Doctorow's novel "The Waterworks" Chapter 27 is set in the asylum for the criminally insane on Blackwell's Island where a main character has been committed (avoiding spoilers here) and a newspaperman conducts a detailed debriefing re: motivations, etc. (2013 audiobook, set in 1871-72, also describes parts of the end of Boss Tweed's reign over the Tammany Hall crime syndicate) 159.39.58.137 (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Map image says “Oosevelt Island”
[edit]It still needs to be fixed, thank you UsersLikeYou (talk) 00:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
In popular culture
[edit]This section is largely unsourced and violates MOS:POPCULT. I have removed it and am planning to rewrite it, but here are the contents of that section, although this can also be split into a new article. Epicgenius (talk) 17:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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