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Green Ramp disaster

I added a paragraph on this to the article, which was missing in spite of of its notability in the history of this air base. Cla68 05:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pope Air Force Base → Pope Army Airfield — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC) As part of BRAC the Air forces will hand over control to the army. [1] Relisted. Jafeluv (talk) 17:21, 26 March 2011 (UTC) --75.184.45.160 (talk) 21:04, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Moves must be justified in terms of policy. The only argument given so far for the move is that the official name is to be changed, which is strictly speaking irrelevant, see Wikipedia:official names. Andrewa (talk) 14:10, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Several sources including Army ones[2] as well as local media[3][4] have used "Pope Field" as the new name. (But Pope Field already refers to another airfield at Wikipedia.) The source cited in the nomination says, "When the property transfer for BRAC is complete in March 2011, Pope Air Force Base will officially become Pope Army Airfield. However, a local agreement with the Army will allow the Air Force to shorten it to Pope Field, which will hearken back to its pre World War II roots."[5] — AjaxSmack 00:56, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But do others continue to use the old name? Or do they use the name Pope Field? The existing article at Pope Field can of course be moved too, or other disambiguators used. Lots of possibilities. Let's try to get the right one in terms of WP:AT. Andrewa (talk) 11:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly Support per WP:COMMONNAME. I created a DAB page earlier today at Pope Field, not knowing about this discussion. Pope Field is the historical name for the airfield, and Pope Army Airfield seems to be the term that the Army and media have picked up on and will use. This is the common name that is used today, and will continue to be in the future. Pope Air Force Base as it stands is confusing to readers, because the title says it is an Air Force Base, when that is clearly no longer the case. Ng.j (talk) 01:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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New lede

Proposed for the new lede:

Pope Army Airfield (IATA: POB, ICAO: KPOB, FAA LID: POB), commonly Pope Field, is an airfield at Fort Bragg, located 12 miles (19 km) northwest of the central business district of Fayetteville, in Cumberland County, North Carolina, United States. It was formerly Pope Air Force Base, but was absorbed into Fort Bragg on March 1, 2011 in accordance with the 2005 Defense Base Closure and Realignment (BRAC) Commission's directive.

Ng.j (talk) 01:31, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: both page moved. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pope Army Airfield → Pope Field
Pope Field → Pope Field (disambiguation)

– This article was previously moved from Pope Air Force Base to Pope Army Airfield with a nomination citing an article from 2010 at http://www.paraglideonline.net/112410_Flightline4.html which used the name "Pope Army Airfield". However, this article now contains three more recent references (U.S. Air Force, U.S. Army, and Fayetteville Observer) all of which state the name changed from "Pope Air Force Base" to "Pope Field" on March 1, 2011. Therefore, I believe "Pope Field" meets the criteria at WP:COMMONNAME while "Pope Army Airfield" does not. In addition, the U.S. Air Force website at http://www.pope.af.mil refers to this facility as "Pope Field". I propose that the disambiguation page at Pope Field be moved to Pope Field (disambiguation), followed by moving Pope Army Airfield to Pope Field. Zyxw (talk) 05:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looking at a broad google books search, it looks like people kept referring to the field as "Pope Field" in spite of the name changes. --Enric Naval (talk) 12:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support both Agree that WP:COMMONNAME applies.--Lineagegeek (talk) 13:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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