Talk:Majlis-e Ahrar-e Islam
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Quaid Syed Ata Ul Mohaiman?
[edit]I removed some content from this article today while trying to find reliable sources: [1]. The material in general was a list of individuals working with the organization, as well as the assertion that "Majlis-e-Ahrar-e-islam is working for the faith of Khatm-e-Nubuwwat." Although I have found mention in unusable sources that "Syed Ata Ul Mohaiman is a Quaid of Majlis-e-Ahrar-e-Islam Pakistan", I can't find this in anything that meets Wikipedia's reliable source guideline. I bring it here in case somebody else might have better luck. Please also explain what a "Quaid" is. I see that it is some kind of title or honorific, but I can't determine what it means. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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Current party or defunct?
[edit]The article uses past tense and discusses a pre-partition party. If you want to add material relating to anything current, please explain here how it is relevant. --Muhandes (talk) 20:02, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- I am not claiming to be very knowledgeable about this, but from the text at Master Taj-uj-Din Ansari it appears that Majlis-e-Ahra-ul-Islam was inactive from the partition (or some times later) to 1958. It then reorganized as a Pakistani party (maybe under the slightly different name Majlis-e-Ahrar-e-Islam?), which might be the same party which is active today. If this is indeed the case, they are different parties and the Pakistani party should have its own article instead of anonymous IP editors which keep inserting material about current leaders to pre-partition party. --Muhandes (talk) 15:11, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
With reference to the statement above by Muhandes, I would also like to ask, please, how the Majlis i Ahrar couldve been a 'Pakistani' political party, 'in Pakisatn' prior to the partition of India?! I think that the Ahrars have influenced many Sunni, Deobandi parties and religious movements later on, in pakistan, but it was essentially an Indian party/movement. Its essential aims were partly successful (in getting rid of British rule) and partially unsuccesful (in the creation of Pakistan as a separate entity) and we cant really say that it continued as a viable party in Pakistan after 1947. Various 'Ahrar' majlises and inspired movements/parties have emerged in Pakistan since, and these are all basically Deobandi outfits, all claiming to be the 'true heirs' to the old Ahrars. 39.54.66.24 (talk) 06:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)Prof Asad U Khwaja
- I'm happy that at last someone of some knowledge gives this attention. I did not write this text, and of course you are correct, nothing could be in "Pakistan" prior to the partition as "Pakistan" did not exist yet. Can you comment on whether Sheikh Hissam-ud-Din should be mentioned as head in 1953? Seems like this is not the original Ahrar he was heading, but what you call an "inspired party". His article mentions "Majlis-e-Ahrar-e-Islam", is that a different name or the same? --Muhandes (talk) 07:06, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Stub article Syed Muhammad Kafeel Bukhari suggests, to me, that this party is still extant. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:15, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
"secular Liberal Muslim"
[edit]Can a purely Islamic organisation with such an anti-Ahmeddiyah animus and Islamist branches really be called secular and liberal? Also the Deobandi page describes them as a "conservative Deobandi political party". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.76.55.175 (talk) 23:59, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Done. I removed the labels because they were unsourced. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:00, 20 June 2017 (UTC)