Talk:Linus Sebastian

Photos of Sebastian

There have been several attempts by well meaning people to update the photo of Sebastian to an image that is more recent. Unfortunately, these edits have contained copyrighted material, in particular frame grabs from Linus Tech Tips videos. The current photo is taken from a video that was released under a Creative Commons license, compatible with the Wikimedia guidelines. Any attempt to replace this photo with one that you do not own (or which does not use an appropriate license) including those taken from websites, forums, or videos, will have to be removed. Thanks to anyone who has been reverting the addition of copyrighted photos.

The main reason this 2012 photo still remains is because nobody has yet found an appropriately licensed photo that is newer, or taken a photo of Sebastian themselves and offered it to the wiki. If anyone knows of a suitable replacement, or has taken their own photo, it would be appreciated if you could contribute the picture. --Melonbob (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

A comment on the image might prevent future updates and be a better warning to future editors rather than this post on the talk page. Editingstuff124 (talk) 07:01, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Is this sufficient to use a frame grab? https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1674168813259202560 Liam8682 (talk) 20:41, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

This isn't so simple. The media in question needs to be released either under a creative commons license or into the public domain. Linus needs to be the owner of the media in order to do this, and be explicit about what he's releasing / relicensing. - Skipple ☎ 21:01, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

See the additional tweet he sent about it: Linus LinusMediaGroup op Twitter: [1]https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1674565803734351872?s=20 185.215.252.38 (talk) 11:16, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

This tweet is not sufficient. Wikipedia requires images that are freely usable by anyone for any purpose. So, the statement "for the purpose of updating our Wikipedia page" ironically makes it so that Wikipedia cannot use that content. Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 07:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

I found this: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/linus-sebastian-is-stepping-down-as-linus-tech-tips-ceo-in-transition-to-new-role-2150195/

Is this image good enough, or will it be deleted at the snap of a finger? Unknown0124 (talk) 02:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Unless the image is released under Creative Commons licencing or is in the Public Domain, it shouldn't be uploaded. - Skipple ☎ 02:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Got it. Unknown0124 (talk) 13:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Article worthiness generally

This individual is a salesman - his YouTube videos are very often HEAVILY themed sales promotion dressed up as education / entertainment, even to the point of using his young children to help promote sponsors. This encyclopaedia article comes across as the same (going as far as mentioning a deceased cat!). If YouTube "Influencers" with over a certain number of subscribers / view are deemed significant enough to warrant a Wiki entry, so be it. But the detail in this entry smacks at self promotion of a salesman of the like of Victor Kiam. This Wiki article seems as unabashed as the selling that goes on on the YouTube channel. Sebastian is not as notable character as this entry suggests and needs reeling in considerably. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.173.156 (talk) 11:20, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

We have already debated the worthiness of this individual in the past. Prior articles were deleted. At this time, Sebastian is one of the most significant YouTubers of his genre and his work (and opinion) is broadly sourced by major tech websites such as Engadget, MacRumours, Forbes, and Lifehacker, to name some. If Sebastian is not a worthy entry, then it would require a total re-evaluation of all YouTube-based celebrities and influencers. In terms of "self promotion", I think you need to be more specific about which areas concern you; I'm not convinced. --Melonbob (talk) 12:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I completely agree with Melonbob. They release tonnes of videos which are not sponsored by the manufacturer/retailer that makes/sells the product featured in the video and release tonnes of videos that aren't about a product at all, e.g. their videos of upgrading their servers. It's pretty obvious that the user with the IP 109.148.173.156 has something personally against Linus and/or Linus Media Group and their opinion should not affect this page. --NitroblastDigi (talk) 17:50, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Ballooning of "Notable Projects"

I think we need to consider the growth of the "notable projects" section. The original intention was to list series of videos or ongoing projects which had a significant response from public audiences, and which were defining of the work that Linus Media Group does. I'm unconvinced that the iMac Pro incident or the "secret shopper" project are notable in that they define the body of work that they do, in the same way that Scrapyard Wars , WAN Show, or Floatplane are significant to the history of their production. I'd like to suggest that this section is cut down; that the CPU and watercooling projects (and any other "one off" projects) are reduced into a section, and that future additions focus on large projects and not briefly controversial or unusual videos, of which there are likely to be many in the future. Does anyone else have thoughts on this? --Melonbob (talk) 12:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I also fell there needs to be more in that section. Scrapyard Wars, WAN Show, maybe the Employee Lounge as well since it was a fairly long series. Floatplane has gotten big enough that it almost could have it’s own page, but that’s just my opinion. I also don’t think that the iMac Pro incident was very big either and it probably could get removed, again my opinion. TheGoatGuy (talk) 02:52, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

In 2015, Inc. magazine ranked Sebastian 4th in a list of the "Top 30 Power Players in Tech"

>> In 2015, Inc. magazine ranked Sebastian 4th in a list of the "Top 30 Power Players in Tech"

Can you please help me verify this link? I dont see the ranking there: https://www.inc.com/john-rampton/30-power-players-in-tech-you-need-to-know.html

73.110.46.197 (talk) 09:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

The picture seems to be offline in the current version. It's on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20150724073213/https://www.inc.com/john-rampton/30-power-players-in-tech-you-need-to-know.html Eic.luca (talk) 17:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

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The template message at the top of the page

I think that it is true, there are a lot of stuff sourced from youtube.com, but because he runs a YouTube channel I think that the message should be removed. Asking for confirmation. Clarification: The message that says "This biography of a living person relies too much on references to primary sources." 02es (talk) 00:18, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

No, over-reliance on primary sources is a problem, and it should be fixed before the template is removed. The problem is fixed by citing independent sources. There are many articles about YouTubers, and this standard applies to them just as with other WP:BLPs. Grayfell (talk) 01:04, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Section about his beard?

There has been some backlash about Linus growing a beard, so i find it sensible to have a beard section with backlash and content about his beard. Or update the picture to feature Linus with a beard. It would make the most sense 02es (talk) 00:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Please cite a reliable source. Per the above section, this should also be an independent source. As for images, see Wikipedia:Image use policy. Wikipedia has strict copyright policies. If you know of an updated image which is compatible with Wikipedia's copyright, it could be uploaded, but do not assume that images you find online are compatible. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 01:07, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

How is his beard significant? There are many notable controversies that could be included, but there was hardly a "backlash" against his beard. --NitroblastDigi (talk) 17:52, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't think his beard is significant enough to have a dedicated section dedicated. I agree with NitroblastDigi that there are many more notable events that still need be added to this article. Somerandomuser (talk) 05:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I believe this is an attempt at humor. Editingstuff124 (talk) 06:58, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Question about third party sources

A section I wrote was removed for lack of third party sources. Yet the LTT website and YouTube channel (which are not third party) are frequently used for citations, without issue (and in several cases are the only sources provided for claims). I don't quite understand - are third party sources only required for certain claims? —SrAlfredos (talk) 14:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

See the notice at the top of the article and links therein. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Linus Media Group

Linus is no longer just an individual with a channel. Linus Media Group should be its own wiki. I'm creating one right now --Brownques (talk) 15:44, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@Brownques there is Linus Media Group Inc. now. Shane04040404 (talk) 15:29, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Education

There should be a section about Linus's education. As it appears to be he went for a general science major in UBC. He was also advised by family members to go to a business major instead. Source: I can't post Youtube links here, but the video where there was talk about his education is titled "Preparing for 10 GIGABIT Internet! What Could Go Wrong?", precisely in the time stamp 23:33. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amir Husayn (talk • contribs) 13:15, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Early Career

There are sources indicating Linus was a painter from 2004 to 2005, is it noteworthy enough to add it to the article?: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/linus-sebastian-578a0752 https://twitter.com/linustech/status/1287206315685580801?lang=en https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298tsR9Mgh8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lijason1988 (talk • contribs) 09:30, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

lttstore.com

Linus Tech Tips store should be mentioned on this page or should have a page in its own right.

--Editingstuff124 (talk) 06:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Citation on Linus changing his mind about retiring

The citation link on linus changing his mind about retiring is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxjhTVR_dJw CarPBon (talk) 14:31, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:58, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Autism and ADHD

Linus has publically admitted in WAN show episodes that he was diagnosed with Asperger's growing up and he's also ADHD and is on ADHD meds currently too. 49.36.112.64 (talk) 18:01, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Do you have a link + timestamp? Could probably be added to the article per WP:ABOUTSELF. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 18:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Hey, I hope I'm doing this correctly. Never done this ob Wikipedia. Here's the video link for autism: https://www.youtube.com/live/0LqWvOR1xBk?feature=share

And the timestamp is 28:38 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:10:8152:207B:1B63:9D93:46D6 (talk) 13:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

For ADHD the video link: https://www.youtube.com/live/-znPFc-0VS8?feature=share

And the timestamp is 1:48:07 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:10:8152:207B:1B63:9D93:46D6 (talk) 13:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

For autism I misremembered. He says he's never been diagnosed with autism at the end of the segment. Autism runs in his family strongly though, and he does have some traits that he mentions and believes he has a touch of "Aspie" in him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:10:8152:207B:1B63:9D93:46D6 (talk) 13:24, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I have added the ADHD bit. He did not say he has autism so I did not add it. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 17:55, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Article should be about Linus Media Group

At this point, I think most would agree that an article about Linus Sebastian as a person rather than the Linus Media Group is less than ideal. I suggest moving it to Linus Media Group. I'm not sure, though, whether the guidelines allow changing the topic of an article entirely. Andibrema (talk) 12:24, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Agreed and done. Now that he has stepped down as CEO of LMG, the disparities in biographical/non-biographical content are only going to grow. DigitalIceAge (talk) 01:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2023

Add Gamelinked has one of his channels to Linus sebastian's Wikipedia page. https://www.youtube.com/@GameLinked CarlTheObeseCat (talk) 06:57, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

It's pretty clear. The linked channel in the comment above was newly started by Linus & LMG in July of last year and launched as a channel on June 29th of this year. Simply add the channel (Gamelinked) to the list of channels on the page. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 16:47, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

 Already done, GameLinked was added on June 29 to the list of channels at Linus Media Group. It is not within the scope of Linus Sebastian's biography to mention the channel. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 21:59, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Then why are (m)any of the others which are listed on this page? Some he hasn't even appeared on. If that's the logic then several need to be pruned out, or GL needs to be added. It can't go both ways. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 13:46, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

None of the other channels are mentioned in the article's prose. If you're referring to the combined subscriber/view counts, then yes, Gamelinked could be added there. That's just a thing for counting stats and feel free to add it (as an autoconfirmed user). — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 16:57, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Pretty sure that is what @CarlTheObeseCat was looking for, as it is the only location that lists any of the channels - other than LTT. I will take that on shortly. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 18:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Consitter simply linking to Linus Media Group#List of YouTube channels. It seems silly to maintain this list in two places. - Skipple ☎ 18:25, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

This gave me a bit of a chuckle.Picard's Facepalm (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure what's funny about it? I'm not sure what value maintaining two lists of subscribers and viewers provides. Why not replace the current blists with see Linus Media Group. - Skipple ☎ 19:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Added to bottom of the channel list. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2023

Change is to was for text about being CEO in text below about box 24.13.4.148 (talk) 20:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

• This is unnecessary at this point. The last edit of vandalism was 2 weeks ago and it was semi-protected for a period at that time. He is no longer the CEO. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 20:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

  I believe this was an edit request, not a protection request. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong. - Skipple ☎ 20:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

  You're right - my error in reading (too fast). Apologies. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 13:14, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

•  Not done: - This article is about the individual, Linus Sebastian. There is a separate article for Linus Media Group, where the new CEO is listed in the infobox, which may be what you are looking for. There are multiple line items on this page referring to Linus stepping down as CEO of the company. - Skipple ☎ 20:46, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Old photo

Sebastian in 2013

I added this photo+caption to the article the other day, and User:Picard's Facepalm removed it with the message "rm unnec & out of date image". I think it's useful to document the history of someone's career – ideally you want the article to show what they looked like early in their career as well as up to the present. The article is long enough that we can comfortably fit a second photo besides the infobox photo without it being too cluttered. Picard's Facepalm, could you please elaborate on why you removed it? Thanks, IagoQnsi (talk) 00:36, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Just as a note, on my computer (Legacy Vector skin on a large monitor), the image cuts into the references section. I'm indifferent to the photo being added however. - Skipple ☎ 01:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

The article itself is quite short on my screen as well, and the 2nd image cuts into the subscriber notes (which honestly needs to be pruned quite a bit - 95% is replicated in the LMG article). If there was more content in the article it would lend to adding more images (regardless of age) - but between the length and no article context surrounding the image - I can't see there being a point to add right now. Happy to concede to consensus of course. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 14:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

subscription counts not referenced

All of the subscription counts on this page are not referenced, nor are the awards. Are references not available? Seems like the claims should be deleted until they can be properly verified. -- Mikeblas (talk) 17:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

I suppose refs linking to each of the YT channels could be done if that level of busywork is indeed determined to be necessary.... although that looks to already have been done on the article for Linus Media Group, which this article of coruse links to. --Picard's Facepalm • ^{Made It So} _Engage! • 14:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Now that the infobox bugs have been resolved, it's apparent that no references are provided for the views, subscriber counts, or awards here. It seems like this article should be about Linus, and not his channels -- since the channels have separate articles. Removing the channel stats, at least, from this page lets them be properly presented and referenced elsewhere. -- Mikeblas (talk) 14:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh I agree with your last sentence for sure. I tried having that discussion on here before - noting that it was silly to maintain channel counts in 2 articles. I was quickly overridden, however. You are welcome to take up that torch - and you will have my support. --Picard's Facepalm • ^{Made It So} _Engage! • 15:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm in favor of removing the channel counts here as well and I'm struggling to understand an argument against it, especially seeing how Linus Media Group is fairly well established now. I'm wondering if there's an appropriate way to reference the other article?... "see Linus Media Group#List of YouTube channels" seems inappropriate for info box. - Skipple ☎ 18:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)