Talk:Jessica Savitch
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Sourcing
[edit]This article makes a lot of comments about the subject that desperately need sourcing. I don't see anything indicating a source for a lot of the information about her marriage, for example, and there are some very strong claims being made there. I see there are some editors working on this - I'd recommend doing something about this lack of sources. Tony Fox (arf!) 05:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
It looks like most of this entry is a blatant plagiarism of the Biography Channel's summary of its program about Savitch, "Almost Golden: The Jessica Savitch Story." See: http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/1478:1679/2/Almost_Golden_The_Jessica_Savitch_Story.htm
If Wikipedia has a policy against plagiarism, all but the very end of this entry should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.173.9 (talk • contribs)
- Excellent catch. It is indeed 95 percent copyvio from that page, and I've deleted all but the intro due to that. Tony Fox (arf!) 02:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
What Happened?
[edit]Where's the information?
- The information was removed as being almost entirely a copyright violation. It appears someone is putting some back in a non-copyvio form, which is good, but those editors need to be cautious to use sources for their statements, of which none have been provided thus far in the rewrite. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
LGBT people from the United States
[edit]Is there substantial proof that Jessica Savitch was indeed a lesbian? If not, why has she been placed in this category? I am removing this article from the LGBT people from the United States category until a reference can be cited. T. White 08:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Almost Golden, referenced in the article, tiptoes around the subject on pages 298-9 but only cites anonymous sources and vague gossip, and comes to no definite conclusion on Savitch's supposed lesbianism. Unless somebody can come up with more specific material, I agree with removing the category. Casey Abell 15:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Phrasing
[edit]"effectively ended her career" - since she only lived three weeks beyond that incident i don't think it's good phrasing. PMA 13:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well it did. NBC News executives were tired of the drama in Jessica's life and they pulled her off the air. NBC producers and newsroom managers were told not schedule her until the executive office cleared her, and the "official" word was that they were going to reevaluate the relationship after she had some R&R (in between the lines, they were looking to release her and her agent was looking for a full payout on the contract). Like I said, everyone wanted to be like Jessica on air, so for those of use who went to work in the National news offices in Washington at the time were told "keep your personal life in check; don't let this happen to you. 76.181.27.79 (talk) 01:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- While, obviously POV, it IS good historic information. Can anyone gin up a GOOD article on such a topic?Wzrd1 (talk) 04:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Dog
[edit]How did Savitch's dog die, or did he/she survive? WizardDuck 02:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- The dog died in the accident. See the article and sources. Casey Abell 13:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Citations
[edit]An editor hung a lot of fact tags on the article. It wasn't hard to find convincing sources for almost everything in the article, so I splattered some footnotes around. I eliminated a very few items that might well have been true and which had some backing on the Internet, but which could have been questioned. Casey Abell 13:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
YouTube
[edit]It might help if someone went to YouTube and posted the video of her on-air meltdown just before she died. Also, there is a video (I think it's called "Angry Anchor") of Savitch throwing a temper tantrum at her floor crew.Frazzledguy (talk) 13:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was in journalism school at the time, and we all wanted to be her - she really was able to to somehow breach the television sccreen and radiate trust. Unfortunatly someone has - and it did ruin her career. That her life ended three weeks later is the final tragedy to befall her. When juxtaposed against what she did best, its a sad reminder of how brilliant she was. It also adds the question as to why someone didn't pull her off the air when the first update appeared. 76.181.27.79 (talk) 01:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- If anyone filmed MY meltdowns over the years, Chernobyl would be pale in comparison. Thankfully, they were few and far between. I'll not now, nor ever, consider a meltdown on one or two occasions.
- I was in journalism school at the time, and we all wanted to be her - she really was able to to somehow breach the television sccreen and radiate trust. Unfortunatly someone has - and it did ruin her career. That her life ended three weeks later is the final tragedy to befall her. When juxtaposed against what she did best, its a sad reminder of how brilliant she was. It also adds the question as to why someone didn't pull her off the air when the first update appeared. 76.181.27.79 (talk) 01:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
But then, *I* am rated on the Richter scale... ;)Wzrd1 (talk) 04:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Wow...not a word about her drug-fueled meltdown on October 3, 1983, during an NBC News Update. Nice sanitized little article you have here. 66.191.43.60 (talk) 18:50, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's in there now and it was never proved it was "drug fueled" although it may have looked that way.TheBlinkster (talk) 03:34, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
Her Voice
[edit]Not mentioned was her voice. I remember watching her and the first thing you experience is her voice, and then her looks. She was unique in that regard, for a west coast listener. Maybe not as distictive from someone from New York. Her beauty declined rapidly, and I found it hard to watch her at the end. In the cocaine 80's, she looked the emaciated part.137.240.136.74 (talk) 14:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- I grew up not very far from where she grew up. I remember listening and watching her on TV. She was unique here, for an EAST coast listener too. Frankly, I never paid attention to physical attractiveness, even today, in news.
- I* care about FACTS. I care about emotion from the reporter on scene. BOTH reflect REALITY of the scene.
In THOSE and in investigative issues, she shone like a new star. The movie that reminded me of her, "Up Close and Personal", the actress was a paltry shadow of the bright flame that was this person. But then, that is POV...Wzrd1 (talk) 04:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Sourcing
[edit]Like the majority of websites, the "Internet Accuracy Project" does not seem to be an appropriate source. Look at it yourself and see if it feels reliable. The speculation about suicide and abortion are unsourced as well. I'm going to trim this under (WP:BOLD) Catherinejarvis (talk) 17:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
- I am replacing some of what you probably took out, with better sources. Never heard of "Internet Accuracy Project" and we don't need it with two or three books and all kinds of news and magazine articles on the woman. TheBlinkster (talk) 03:33, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
There are tons of sources on Jessica Savitch
[edit]There are actually two very detailed biographies on Savitch (Nash and Blair), as well as many articles in everything from the New York Times to People magazine about her and all of her problems, plus John Gregory Dunne's book about the making of the Up Close and Personal movie. While I don't think every little blip of her personal life needs to be in the article, things like her second husband's suicide, her abortion, her violent relationship with Ron Kershaw are well sourced in multiple sources (as in Nash, Blair, People magazine, Dunne's book, the New York Times in some cases, etc. etc.).
Beyond that, the article really needs expansion to discuss how she became a leading anchorwoman and her actual contribution to TV news as being one of the first ever female anchorwomen in prime time. The Blair book discusses this in great depth. I happen to have read a lot about Jessica Savitch because my dad was an avid NBC watcher when I was growing up and she was always on there and one of his favorite anchorwomen. If I get a chance I will expand it, but honestly, it is not hard to find multiple sources for a lot of the supposedly controversial stuff. Also, there isn't much if any BLP issue since Jessica, both of her husbands, Ron Kershaw, and Ed Bradley are all dead. TheBlinkster (talk) 03:32, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
This article goes around in circles
[edit]This article is very poorly organized. In one paragraph, it mentions Savitch's incoherent NBC News update on October 3, 1983. In the next paragraph, Savitch gets hired by NBC in 1977. There are three separate places where it mentions that Savitch was assigned by NBC to be the Senate correspondent. A more chronological approach would suit the topic better. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:18, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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