Talk:Hellsing

Disambig

Why is this a disambig? It might have been best to consolidate all the related materials into one article. Drumpler 07:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't like this

That the list of Hellsing media article was moved into here. First off, it lists The Dawn under the OVA, which is wrong, and then the OVA episodes under The Dawn, which is wronger still. Secondly, I no longer have a place to check release dates on the manga. The main article doesn't such info. Thirdly, the media information listed about the OVA series IS in the main article, so there's no need for it here. --DameGreyWulf (talk) 05:21, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that, it'll be fixed shortly. As for the manga list, we're going to make a new page for it with a reformatted and more detailed list. Sorry for the inconvenience. Schrödinger (talk) 18:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, the page was tagged {{cleanup}} for a reason. I've done my share, DameGreyWulf, you can be bold and fix up some things yourself. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:43, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Merges

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Resolved

 – Consensus to merge Hellsing (manga), Hellsing Ultimate, and Hellsing: The Dawn‎ to this article and retool to single series article. No consensus to merge Hellsing (TV series). Merges of consensus approved articles completed September 12, 2008.

I've tagged several off the Hellsing articles for merging back here. I can see no valid reason for having all of them separate. Only the TV series meets the MoS requirement of being significantly different from its primary media to support having its own article. The manga is the primary work, and should be here. Ultimate is an OVA that more closely follows the manga, so again should be here. Hellsing Organization is a group of fictional characters in Hellsing, so it belongs back here with the article. Hellsing: The Dawn is a manga prequel, and can be better served being in this new merged article. Thoughts on each of these? -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

To my surprise, I'm going to vote against this. It looks to me like the majority of these have been sufficiently developed to merit stand alone articles, even with the shared plot and character information. We could possibly merge The Dawn into the manga, and the Hellsing Organization article certainly needs some work. But I think the individual articles have managed to establish a unique enough identity that merging them again would be counterproductive. Doceirias (talk) 05:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I (of course) disagree. :P All of them are start class, barely, with The Dawn nothing more than a plot summary. The Hellsing manga article is mostly plot, with little else. Ultimate actually has some development, but I don't think that alone should be a reason to not merge (especially when the bulk of the article is excessive DVD release information). Just means it will merge into a fuller article that the stuff that is (not) there now. They are all in poor shape, with the manga barely even mentioning the existance of the rest. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't not, admittedly, do more than glance them over. Would certainly support turning this into an article on the manga (and dawn) and maybe even bringing in Ultimate, if there really isn't as much as it looked like. Reorganizing the organization and character articles wouldn't hurt. 06:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doceirias (talk • contribs)

I think Ultimate should stay separate. There's enough coverage out there (interviews, articles) for a separate article, not to mention plenty of reviews for a nice, hefty "Reception" section.--Nohansen (talk) 16:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I think All the Hellsing Articles are fine on their own. If you were to merge them then you'd have mass confusion everywhere. Plus they have enough Meat to be on their own too. From: Lunyka (Google me for my other website accounts) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.77.20 (talk) 03:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

The articles on the manga (Hellsing (manga) and Hellsing: The Dawn) could definitely be merged here. The Hellsing franchise it's not so deep or complicated that it needs a separate article to explain itself. The articles on the animated adaptations can stand on their own, but the article on the manga prequel cannot. Admittedly, it is "published at irregular intervals in special editions of Young King OURs", with only six chapters so far... hardly worthy of a separate article. An article on the characters would be a better merge target for Hellsing Organization.

I guess what I'm saying is this article should be about the manga, with an "Adaptations" section presented in WP:Summary style.--Nohansen (talk) 06:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree on the org after realizing there are a few other Hellsing organization articles. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 06:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

On behalf of Collectonian, I'm willing to believe a merger is a good idea. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about everything going into the Hellsing article, as that would make the page exceedingly long, but I think Dawn definitely needs to be merged into the manga article. It's still part of the Hellsing manga franchise and doesn't really have great significance on its own, as it isn't technically a separate storyline. Laranesight 13:01, 14 July 2008

This sucks. What is with the merger in all merge in almost anime article. Dragon Ball article is completely obliterated. Sesshomaru and Collection all you do is merge and destroy ever anime article because the reason obvious would notability and more. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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Things to Do Post Merge

The merges are now done. Anything that was unsourced and seemed to be more WP:OR than valid data was not merged here. The Hellsing template needs some updating per all the merges. I'll be adding a to do list above momentarily, and an archive box with links off to the old talk pages for the merged articles. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 03:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge of TV series

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Resolved

 – No consensus for merging the television series into this article due to concerns that it would make the article too large and that the sufficiently different from the rest of the franchise to meet the WP:MOS-AM requirements for having a separate article.

Now that everything else is nicely merged and, hopefully, those who had concerns can see that this article is much better as one than the various stubs that were floating around, I felt it we should also look at merging in Hellsing (TV series). In looking at its article, I can not see that it is so significantly different from the manga series as to need its own standalone article. All the currently has are a list of characters, which are the same ones linked to from this article, and a very brief episode and theme song listing. Thoughts? -- AnmaFinotera (talk '·' contribs) 16:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Support I agree with a merger of the TV series. The anime may slightly go off the main storyline, however, we don't need a separate article to detail all of those events. That information can easily be summed up here. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose I completely disagree. While the manga and OVA are essentially the same plot-wise, the anime series is completely different from either of them. It should have its own article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.169.49 (talk) 19:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose I agree that the OVA and TV series should NOT be merged. If you have watched both then you know that the source of the "synthetic" vampires, for lack of a better term is completely different between the two. The source in the TV series, Incognito, utilized the Egyptian snake god Sett in the final battle. In the ova it is the remnants of the Nazi party looking for a new form of foot soldier. The ova has already passed the the TV series with absolutely no mention of Incognito or Sett. In the ova Big Ben has been demolished, but in the TV series no such thing ever happened. The fights also occurred slightly differently. They also killed the "Butler" of Integra Hellsing, Walter aka the Angel of Death, in the TV series. Walter never died in the ova.

All in all the differences, both minor and major would confuse anyone who has not watched both. The merger must have been suggested by someone who didn't watch both and I am insulted that someone would even suggest such a thing without watching both in their entirety, for this must be what happened. The entire reason that the ova was produced was due to the fact that the TV series skewed so far from the plot of the manga that it irritated fans who had read the manga, me included.

I could go on for ten times this length about the differences that come to mind immediately but I feel it is not necessary to do so. Linking the two togeter as you have already done is fine, after all they both came out of the same manga, but PLEASE if you care about keeping this as straight forward as possible don't merge them! If someone wants me to do so I will watch the four ovas released so far and submit descriptions of each in detail including the plot and major events. If I do this then I will also do the same for the anime to show the differences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azhreidebonair (talk • contribs) 07:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Those are still relatively minor differences that can easily be summarized within a single article. -- AnmaFinotera (talk '·' contribs) 13:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Oppose I completely disagree. It would make this page huge, and TV series vastly differs from the manga think Fullmetal Alchemist. Speaking of the Fullmetal alchemist, it's manga page is kept separate from their TV series, because it splits off from its manga, too. Merging will just confuse people. Just keep a summary on this page with a link to the TV series page and be done with it. It will be less work and will allow both pages to expand. There already is confusion between Nazis and the freak chips on this page. (The freak chips were manufactured in china, but the chip was designed by Incognito or his owner that came from the “Dark Continent” or Africa; and not the Nazis) --Hamster2.0 (talk) 22:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Fullmetal Alchemist is covered in a single article, it is not split. Please show how it is sharply and significantly different from the series. Same characters, same setting, same basic plot. Where is the sharp difference? -- AnmaFinotera (talk '·' contribs) 22:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

The first half of the TV-series and the first 1/5 of the manga/OVA have loosely the same plot, but after that story goes in two entirely deferent directions. Also only a handful of the characters are the same, and most of them have many changes. Therefore I disagree with the merge.Painocus (talk) 18:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Why is it that animes based on mangas are being condensed into single articles (despite having different plots), while live action shows based on books can have many? (Dexter) Adaptations and source material should be treated as separate entities, especially if they have differing plots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.169.49 (talk) 16:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Usually live action television series based on a single book make obvious and massive changes to the source work. If such changes are not made, they are also covered in a single article. So are many film/book adaptations unless one or another is so significantly notable that having separate articles is necessary for both size reasons and to provide full coverage of both. This is rarely the case with anime and manga series. As already noted, anime and manga articles are split, if there are significant and sharp differences in plot, characters, etc. The point of this discussion is to determine if the Hellsing television anime series is significantly and sharply different from the rest of the series. -- AnmaFinotera (talk '·' contribs) 16:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, the Hellsing TV-series is abut as true to the source material as Hayao Miyazaki's film adaption of Diana Wynne Jones' novel Howl's Moving Castle, which has a separate article from the book's article. Also; Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, any of the Harry Potter movies, both the 1988 and the 2005 adaption of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, almost any adaption of Lewis Carrol's Alice books, almost any adaption of Bram Stoker's Dracula, The Golden Compass and Stardust (2007 film) are all examples of films or TV-series that I find to stay closer to the context of the original book or manga then the Hellsing TV-series, that have separated articles. But if you still refuse to trust us I only have to ask you to at least read the manga and watch the anime before you decide to merge the articles. --Painocus (talk) 00:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

She doesn't have to. I have watched the entire anime series on YouTube and, let me be the one to tell you, it's not so different that it needs its own article. It can be merged as feasible as Dragon Ball (anime), Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT were when it was decided that Dragon Ball would encompass the whole franchise. It's not impossible to do that for Hellsing. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I think it is unfair to compare the changes done to in the Hellsing series to that of the Dragonball series because if I remember right, and correct me if I'm wrong, the story of the Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z anime is very close to the original manga and Dragonball GT is just an extension of that story (which could have worked just as well as a continuation of the manga) whereas the Hellsing TV-series only have similar beginning, but then takes on an almost entirely deferent plot. --Painocus (talk) 01:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Chrono Crusade has a completely different plot and ending in its anime versus its manga, but its covered in a single article. Ditto Full Moon o Sagashite and Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne. On the flip side, Wolf's Rain manga is completely different but still in a single article. There is a merge discussion going on at Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and they are being kept separate not so much because of major differences but because of the film's notability and the amount of information available about each form making them support two articles. The rest, apples and oranges. I've already told you before, non-anime and non-manga comparisons are worthless in this discussion. -- AnmaFinotera (talk '·' contribs) 01:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

You did not say that, all you said was "usually live action television series based on a single book make obvious and massive changes to the source work" which the Hellsing TV-series clearly also does, but if Wikipedia has different rules for anime based on manga then other works based on each other, then I have to give in. Though, I still believe having these two articles merged might cause lots of unnecessary confusion and reduce the quality of the article/articles. --Painocus (talk) 08:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Painocus, I still don't get your point. This isn't something like Death Note and Death Note (film) where one differs from the other throughout the entire plot. The Hellsing anime, while going "exactly" by the original story, just took another turn and ended since it went ahead of the manga, which was obviously unfinished at the time. So, that doesn't mean it automatically merits it own page on Wikipedia. Fullmetal Alchemist is a perfect example of this; both anime and manga details are in the same article. The theme is generally the same regardless of the events that transpire. Why not integrate the useful stuff from Hellsing (TV series) to Hellsing now and see how it looks? After the merger, with heavy copy-editing and sourcing of course, I can guarantee you'll be satisfied. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

No, it'll be crappier than the article is now, or it will triple the length of the article. I'm in favor of combining articles when possible, but this thing is a worthless little mess now. None of the individual sections are remotely useful to a person looking for info on them, and the plot summary reads like the back of a DVD cover. Granted, this last kind've has "Unavoidabe" written all over it given the fact your trying to summarize a manga (which we only get the premise, not plot for), its prequel (Who's plot isn't mentioned), and the OVA based off it, but really. And looking above, you seem to be trying to add the tv series, which has scarcely anything in common after the first episode or two. Frankly, the whole result of the last merge was really sad. I hold out no hope whatsover for this one.198.146.53.94 (talk) 04:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't blame us because the separate articles had crap in them. What's here is what was good in the merged articles (i.e. not the OR, not fan theories, and not unsourced, unconfirmable claims). The plot is what was already there. Instead of complaining, why not expand and fix it? It should summarize the manga, not the OVA nor the prequel. Individual volume/episode plots are in the chapter and episode lists.-- AnmaFinotera (talk '·' contribs) 05:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Well I have not seen the Death Note films so I can't really compare (based on there wikipedia article they seam pretty close to the manga), but my point is that the Hellsing series deffer from the manga all the way trough but still keeps enough similarities to cause confusion if we don't split their articles. Though I will agree that only a few of the changes in the fist 1/2 of the series have any mayor importance to the plot, the other half of the series has an all new plot including many new characters and sub-plots that would be pointless for the creators to add if they were just planing to end the series after they ran out of source material. --Painocus (talk) 22:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Oppose The TV Series should stay separate. It substantially differs from the manga, as it was created after only two volumes of the manga had been written. The TV series has a radically different plot, introduces several characters absent from the comic, and several prominent characters from the comic, including the main antagonist, are absent from the TV series. Hellsing: Ultimate is similar enough to the comic that it could easily remain a sub-topic of the Manga article with bulleted differences from the source material. 75.40.202.108 (talk) 01:06, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

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Characters question

Should we just post the characters who appear in all of the franchise (manga/OVA/TV) and put the manga/TV/OVA-only characters at their respective page or whatnot? Ominae (talk) 06:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

A List of Hellsing characters (which is currently non-existant) should cover all of the characters in the franchise with appropriate notes. There is only one Hellsing page besides the TV series now anyway. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 07:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

That oughta be done. Problem is how to go around it. Ominae (talk) 04:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Mostly just a need for some time to get the shell together, then deal with the appropriate merging and all. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 04:17, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully some of us can do it. Not sure if I have time to do it since I'm started to be bogged with university work. Ominae (talk) 07:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I can make a basic shell, but someone else would have to deal with the clean up, sourcing, etc as I have never read the manga and didn't see all of the anime. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 13:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Updates

In the most recent chapter they explain how the artificial vampires were made after a certain vampire. Therefore this is wrong: "The means of actually making artificial vampires in the manga remain a mystery" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.37.19.66 (talk • contribs) 09:03, October 7, 2008

Manga ongoing?

does the manga still continue?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fotte (talk • contribs) 16:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

According to Anime News Network [1] it does not.But as far as I know "The Dawn" is still left unfinished. --Painocus (talk) 23:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Kohta Hirano said that after the main series ended, he would continue it in different forms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.133.194.56 (talk) 22:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Hentai

The Kouta article says that Hellsing originated as a hentai eromanga, that should be mentioned here. 76.66.198.171 (talk) 23:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Is there a source for that? -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 02:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I think they meant: "Legend of the Vampire Hunter" that features Alucard prototype, but it's not really Hellsing's origin, but one of the many erotic stories Hirano wrote and later on reused characters for Hellsing. Others being Coyote (with "Pip" and Major) and "Angel Dust" (with Anderson). 190.246.135.144 (talk) 22:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Update the plot

The plot section is really really out of date, as it only covers the story for the first few volumes. Should it be updated? Zijian (talk) 12:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, briefly. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 13:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Change of character descriptions

I flipped young Integra's age description because I believe that we must prioritize the source over one of the adaptations. Also removed all the reference about wearing men's suits and being confused by a man. That's only meta, because the fans always confuse Hirano's characters' genders and nor she wears men's suits: she wears uniforms, suits (Seras does too briefly, over the funeral in volume 2 -manga-) and sometimes she dons skirts, Hirano even places her in sexy maid outfit in a cover of YKO. Half of the time he colors her, she has lipstick. In the series, her gender is never mistaken and she's always referred as a beautiful woman and a lady by people like the Major or Anderson (and neutral text), even as an old woman. This seems as ridiculous and superfluous as adding into Seras' basic description that her breasts expand and shrink depending volume, because, again, it's meta impression. Plus I deleted the D-11 from Seras', since she's only a member in the TV series, not in the OVA or the manga. Added as well Pip's fate which was obvious since volume 7.190.246.135.144 (talk) 23:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Helling Ultimate 8

Should have been out mid 2010 if you consider the time between films. But Funimation is up for sale so there might not be a HU8 at all shouldn't that be mentioned instead os just calling it "sometime 2010 tentative" wich is just stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.189.181.56 (talk) 18:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

The release date of Hellsing VIII has nothing to do with FUNimation. The Wild Geese put out a Trailer for VIII on the Japanese DVD and BD for Hellsing VII. That trailer said simply "2010 - To The Battlefield".

It appears that the time taken working on the Hellsing I-V Boxed set caused a delay there, as we're already on the final weeks of 2010 with no concrete announced date.

The Wild Geese did however announce that Hellsing's "Final Season" consisting of Hellsing VIII-X will be coming out soon.65.203.128.130 (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Review(s)

ANN vol. 10 --KrebMarkt (talk) 18:16, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

• Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga, ANN vol. 4
• Active Anime: the complete series, manga 10, Ultimate 1 and 2, Ultimate 2, Ultimate 3, Ultimate 4
• Pop Culture Shock: vol. 8, vol. 10
• Sequential Tart: vol. 1, Search and Destroy 2, Search and Destroy 2 (II), boxed set, boxed set (II), OST, Impure Souls 1, Impure Souls 1 (II), Eternal Damnation 4, Ultimate 1, Ultimate 1-4
• THEM Anime Review: Hellsing, Ultimate

--Gabriel Yuji (talk) 05:43, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

List of Hellsing characters

There should probably be a List of Hellsing characters. Some currently existing character articles are probably not notable, too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 06:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Merge character articles

I have been marking some of the character articles with PROD tags because they are absolute unmitigated disasters: poorly written, unsourced, overly verbose, written primarily in-universe in style, speculative, etc. They are nigh-unsalvageable, and there is little to no possiblity of finding good sources for the articles beyond citing chapters of the manga (I spent an hour trying to find any reliable third-party source I could use for the Integra article and came up with nothing).

Others have removed the PROD tags, proposing we merge those character articles with this article; I counter that this article is long enough, and merging in garbage from other articles will not accomplish anything. We could perhaps make a separate List of Hellsing characters, but creating an article about a subject you know you can't reliably source isn't a good strategy.

These are my thoughts, anyway. Does anyone have any comment on the matter? (for the record, I am a huge fan of Hellsing, I just don't like terrible articles). Some guy (talk) 23:59, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

A list of characters is usually a good choice. I've always found these character articles to be too long and not wonderfully written but I've never had the time to devote to cleaning them up. I think a sloppy merge into a character list is a good first step and then you can pare down what you don't need. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:29, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

And you still end up with an article full of unsourcable material, with no external notability established for the characters. Some guy (talk) 15:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

The individual things in an article do not need to be individually notable, just relevant, and how we divide up the material on a subject is a matter of convenience--the fixation on separate article is unfortunate. (In some fields, it is the result of the attention Google pays to article titles, but that does not apply here.) But to some extent we need it, because of the fiction minimalists, who will otherwise gradually remove the content. I assign good faith to them, in that hey think Wikipedia will benefit from the less intense coverage of fiction. But some of them will use any trick to gradually decrease content until it becomes mere name on a list--the basic policy is NOT DIRECTORY, that we are writing encyclopedia articles, not a mere list of names, like an imdb character list.

As some guy said, the problem is wee tend to write these articles using extensive synthesis, and discussing motives and connections require specific sources. But writing descriptions requires only the work itself as a source--the work is the preferred source for such straightforward description of plot, including what the characters do. We can write using this: say the key things they do, and the reader will interpret. Saying the key things requires careful selection and skill, but that's not OR in the prohibited sense, it's what we inherently do with every WP article. It's the same as the selection of which sources to use. DGG ( talk ) 16:15, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

DGG, please read WP:INDISCRIMINATE. It is not correct to say we should include any miscellaneous character just because they are "relevant" - otherwise, the article becomes bloated with non-notable characters and other trivial data. We should not be writing articles that consist entirely of plot summary of characters; these have no encyclopedic value. A good article on a character should explain the character's history and personality, but also establish (through reliable third-party sources) other information such as why that character is significant, the impact that character has had on the genre or public, background information on the creation of the character, etc. An excellent example is the article on Gregory House, which includes significant background information on the creation of the character, opinions of critics, creators, and Hugh Laurie himself on the character's personality, etc. It doesn't seem likely we could find similar material for Hellsing, other than perhaps for Alucard, though he only gets a few sentences of such treatment in his own article. Some guy (talk) 19:24, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Crossfire (manga)

Not notable by itself Dandy Sephy (talk) 19:19, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Why not just do it? Crossfire, while distinct, was published in Hellsing and as a side-story, should probably not stand alone as such. Its also not the prototype works, but I think it fits much better then the Ultimate and original anime on this page. Some months ago I mulled over tinkering with the format of this page, but I didn't have enough material to really make it work - and conversely the "list of episodes" should probably just become a stand-alone page to focus on the aspect in detail. Might make this important page flow better. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 21:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

In short, I don't know enough about it and was tagging the merge as part of a assessment of articles listed as having notability concerns. The message was left by Twinkle. Dandy Sephy (talk) 21:06, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Then I just merged it. The writing was terrible and while it was a side work, I didn't think we had these many problems in A&M still. Consider it fixed. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick processing. There are similar issues elsewhere, mostly from years ago, although thats for another place.Dandy Sephy (talk) 21:22, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Anyone familiar with this series care to add it to this list?

Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy works (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. This series would qualify. Anyone care to add it? Tamtrible (talk) 18:14, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

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@SuperSkaterDude45 Although I said that you should start the discussion here, since you are the one who is not following what WP:CATV indicates, I'll explain why I don't agree with adding the series to Category:Comics set in Brazil. The main reason is that nothing in the article addresses the part of the story where the events take place in Brazil, regardless of whether this is mentioned in other articles related to the series (list of chapters, episodes or characters). Second reason is that, even if a part of the story takes place in Brazil, adding the series to a category of titles set in Brazil is not correct. It's like saying that The Simpsons takes place in Brazil or Japan because in some episodes the family went to those places; perhaps not the best example, but my point is that the event is not defining to justify the categorization. Xexerss (talk) 04:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

@Xexerss: Now your reasoning does make sense when taking into consideration into say, a longer form series. However, Hellsing is a relatively short series in regard to both the manga and the OVA. I'm generally excluding the 2001 anime due to creative differences. It's not like say, the story decides to briefly go over to Brazil just because someone wanted to have a vacation at Rio de Janeiro. Rather, Integra dispatched Alucard and Seras there as Millennium has a large presence and influence there. It is also where Pip Bernadotte and Tubalcain Alhambra are introduced. While it is admittedly not featured as the rest of the series is largely set in England, I still found it notable enough to include. SuperSkaterDude45 (talk) 04:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I really wouldn't be opposed to adding the category if at least the event was mentioned for context in the article, mainly for readers who are not familiar with the series. Xexerss (talk) 04:38, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

@Xexerss: I mean as it is, the current article's plot summary is incredibly short with it only being two paragraphs long and several notable events being entirely omitted. I could see a slight expansion made to the article's summary though admittedly, that's not exactly high on my own priority list. SuperSkaterDude45 (talk) 06:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC)