Talk:Greater Western Sydney

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Why was this simply moved from Western Sydney to Greater Western Sydney? The two terms tend to describe different areas, and "Western Sydney" is the more commonly used one and most deserving of an article. JPD (talk) 13:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

To be clearer: the two terms don't always describe different areas, but Western Sydney is by far the most common one. I propose moving the article back to Western Sydney. If it's good enough for the Minister for Western Sydney, it's good enough for me. JPD (talk) 15:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

From what I can tell also, in polite circles one says "Greater West" or "Greater Western Sydney" instead of Western Sydney. It's a language thing too.

I have never heard this distinction. "Greater" in place names is usually used simply to indicate that a larger area is being described, that is, Greater Tamworth is larger than Tamworth proper and has nothing to do with politeness. Logically this means that Greater Western Sydney is larger than Western Sydney proper. However, as I pointed out, the state government uses simply "Western Sydney" to refer to the (large!) area also covered by the Greater Western Sydney Economic Development Board. I suppose you could suggest that the state government is not "polite circles", but this official usage is good enough for me. JPD (talk) 08:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Merge proposal

They should definitely be merged. Western Sydney encompasses the greater west as well. I'm not sure why Western Sydney exists as an article, when they're pretty much homogeneous. In other words, all suburbs in the greater western Sydney are in western Sydney and vice versa. Meganesia (talk) 08:24, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Support merge into Western Sydney - Both of them are the same to me. Western Sydney is the more commonly used term. 07:02, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Weak support for the merge. While in official use the terms aren't identical (read the pages for the detail of which council areas are officially considered under each term), it does seem reasonable to discuss them together given that Western Sydney is a subset of Greater Western Sydney and the current pages are small enough to be discussed in one place. So, that would require a merge to Greater Western Sydney. Klbrain (talk) 02:33, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 03:36, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Who says it's greater?And greater than what?

The word greater is scattered throughout this article, appearing more like a marketing term than anything else. Most city articles have section on their name, explaining where it comes from. This one doesn't. Who decided this area is called Greater Western Sydney, and what is it greater than? Who decided on the area? A little more rigour around the name please. HiLo48 (talk) 22:12, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

From Wiktionary, Greater in this sense is used in referring to a region or place together with the surrounding area; (of a city) metropolitan. So, there is no sense of better. The uses in the article therefore seems consistent with common use in English. It is also an official term used to describe the area, and Wikipedia is therefore reflecting that use; see: Dawson, Natalie. "About Greater Western Sydney". www.westernsydney.edu.au. Western Sydney University. Retrieved 6 February 2018.

Klbrain (talk) 02:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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