Talk:Gender variance
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Possible Additions of Conversion Therapy for Genderqueer Children
[edit]Hey all. I was scrolling through this page, and noticed that there isn't anything really referring to how 'gender identity disorder' was previously listed in the DSM and had several 'treatments' tantamount to conversion therapy. A good example of these practices is Kenneth Zucker and his practice at Toronto's Centre for Addiction and Mental Health: Gender Identity Service before it was shut down. There is a wikipedia page about Kenneth Zucker which we could include, and there have been several books written about him and his practices, such as "Trans Kids: Being Gendered in the Twenty-First Century" written by Tey Meadow. Just felt that this is important information regarding how gender non-conformity was viewed in the medical field and how that has changed (though very little). (Sneezygirl) (talk) 12:46, November 2021 (UTC)
Claims not cited
[edit]In the second paragraph of the Social status for Men vs Women section, a claim has not been cited. I have not been able to find a source to back up the claim made. I think this should be addressed to clean up the article.
Wiki Education assignment: Psychology of Gender
[edit] This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 28 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Walvarez2 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Zisha68 (talk) 02:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Walvarez2: I just did a cleanup to your recent addition; I felt the use of the word 'deviant' didn't fit the overall tone of the article and I tried to clean it up a little (for example, to phrases like 'non-conforming' individual').
- I don't have access to some of the linked references, so I would look to others to also comment on the specific content.
- CaptainAngus (talk) 01:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 12 July 2024
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Gender variance → Gender nonconformity – According to Google Ngrams, gender nonconformity is the more commonly used term. The article should be named with its common name. Urchincrawler (talk) 16:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support - also supported by note hits in scholar gender noncomformity vs gender variance, so agreed per WP:COMMONNAME we should rename the title. Raladic (talk) 17:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Request Can someone offer 2 sources which support a position? I would like to see more evidence than just a count of Google Ngrams. Bluerasberry (talk) 16:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure how else I would go about comparing use besides Ngram and Radalic's comment with Google scholar hits, but here are a few things that could count for evidence towards it.
- The APA dictionary includes gender nonconforming but not gender variance or gender variant.
- The article for childhood gender nonconformity uses "nonconformity" for its title rather than "variance", so the move would make the pages more consistent with one another.
- Searching "gender nonconformity" gets 373,000 results on Google while "gender variance" has 234,000. Urchincrawler (talk) 01:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)