Talk:Essen
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old comments on disambiguation
[edit]IMO this disambiguation should not be total, the German city is large enough to deserve to be on the first page. If anything, in comparison with the Belgian municipality... --Shallot 23:40, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I've changed the article to a redirect to Essen, Germany and added Essen (disambiguation). IMO this should be deleted so Essen, Germany can properly be moved to here.. --Doco 14:04, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Translation
[edit]I'm going to translate the material at the German version of this article to this one. This will take a while as I prefer to translate articles in full in userspace and only merge it when done. If anyone wants to share the work they'd be very welcome - just leave me a message on my talk page. --Sam Blanning(talk) 14:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've had to put that on hold due to lack of time - though if anyone else wants to try their hand at translating, I might be able to help out with a few sections. --Sam Blanning(talk) 11:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- I will try a gradual translation of the German article while leaving readable parts of the English version intact. Since my English may not be perfect, I strongly acknowledge any edits that make the translated parts more readable. I've decided to directly update the main article every time as I think that any edit to this article is a good one. Additionally, I think I won't use the "under construction" warning since it may take quite a time to translate the German article - especially the history part. 80.138.194.154 (De:Kampfwurst)
- Since I have already translated quite a bit of the article (see page history), I think it is about time to comply the GFDL and give credit to those who REALLY wrote most of the current article. The German language version provides a small guideline on one of its special pages stating that the translator should include both the original article and the page history into the foreign language article before translating it. It also advises the translator to include a permalink to the version used, which can be found in the info box at the top of the page. By the way: The reason for this supposedly late comment (see date of the related edits in the article history) is that I had written one before, but obviously had forgotten to save it... --Kampfwurst 21:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
how about no scott ?
[edit]Why does the entry include "how (a)bout no scott" in sections "City Hall" and "Major companies based in Essen"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.214.200.152 (talk) 07:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
- Seems as if no one has seen that. I've changed it in my last edit as 80.138.175.131 (had not logged in then) Kampfwurst 19:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Please introduce the Infobox German Location. It provides a coherent look among German cities. Lear 21 22:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Essen and Monessen
[edit]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monessen,_Pennsylvania
Just thought I advise you that Monessen is a sister city of Essen as well. The city Monessen PA USA was named after it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.108.153 (talk) 23:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I must admit that I haven't contacted an official on this case but in general, the five cities mentioned in the article are Essen's sister cities (the official website does not list Monessen either; see [1]). However, I think it is fair to include a reference to Monessen - maybe the way I just edited the article. Kampfwurst (talk) 19:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
World War II
[edit]I am looking for information from a historical society in Essen Germany. My mother-in-law was from France but worked for a time in Essen during the war. She married an American GI and moved to America in 1949. She passed away last year. We as a family are trying to find out more about her before she came to America. Is there a historical society or something like it in Essen we can go to for completing research? Thank you, John Johnson--Jpjohnson1 (talk) 04:14, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hello John, first of all I want to offer my condolences. I found a website linking to several cultural historic societies in Essen. I'm from Borbeck and know that the Kulturhistorischer Verein Borbeck is very active, maybe you should give it a try and send them an eMail. Good luck! 80.137.161.249 (talk) 16:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Photos of city-centre
[edit]I uploaded 74 photos of Essen car-free city-centre to Wikimedia commons. If you'd like to use any, feel free! As I don't know how to put certain specific list, here is the link for my commons contributions. João Pimentel Ferreira 00:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- I might suggest these for your consideration
But there are many more. João Pimentel Ferreira 00:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- (I took the liberty of compressing the above gallery.) Thank you for those pictures. 2 points: 1) the article here is already overloaded with images; unless significantly more text is added, I suggest to remove some. 2) Most of the pictures above could be from any pedestrian mall, except the Karstadt centre at the Limbecker Platz. Pictures that show nearby landmarks, e.g. Münster, Martkirche and other churches, Burggymnasium, Glockenspiel, Grillo-Theater, or events like the Lichtwochen or Weihnachtsmarkt would be much more appealing. At any rate, there's a link at the bottom of the article to c:Category:Essen where all pictures can be found. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:57, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- No problem, as I said, use them with free will as you find more appropriate. Cheers. João Pimentel Ferreira 11:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 16:31, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
History
[edit]The section mentions "The oldest archaeological find, the Vogelheimer Klinge, dates back to 280,000 – 250,000 BC." The only reference to the flintblade seems to be a dead link, and other articles on this all seem to quote the wiki page or the same source. Seems suspect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.175.27.4 (talk) 08:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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Re: Comment
[edit]Regarding Sarcelles' comment regarding this edit:
- The change was more specific:
- a) It's now Wiesinger's Border Bergish instead of simply Bergish which is variously defined.
- b) Some places like Bredeney, Heisingen, Kupferdreh were given instead of simply "the south".
- The change added a source/reference.
- The change removed the part "the Low Franconian (Bergish) area (closely related to Dutch)":
- It was unsourced. The relationship of Dutch and East Bergish (to which the South-Essen dialects belong) is common knowledge. But there's als the adverb "closely". What's this "closely" in "closely related"? How is it measured? Who measured it? Is it maybe only "related", or even "distantly" related?
The mentioned "Bergish" is variously defined. In Wiesinger's classification it includes both some North (or West) and some South (or East) Low Franconian. In Mengel's it also includes (some) Ripuarian which is part of Central German and hence High German. Are High German's Ripuarian and Low Franconian's Dutch closely related?
What's more closely related, East Bergish and Kleverlandish, East Bergish and South Low Franconian in Germany, or East Bergish and Dutch in the Netherlands? It's likely that East Bergish and Kleverlandish (both spoken in Germany and they share a border) are more closely related than East Bergish and Dutch. So why not (also) mention Kleverlandish? How about "related to Dutch and Kleverlandish"? - That information wasn't specific to the South-Essen dialects, but applies to all of East Bergish. So it should be good enough to state "the South-Essen dialects belong to East Bergish".
- It was unsourced. The relationship of Dutch and East Bergish (to which the South-Essen dialects belong) is common knowledge. But there's als the adverb "closely". What's this "closely" in "closely related"? How is it measured? Who measured it? Is it maybe only "related", or even "distantly" related?
--20:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.221.40.167 (talk)
- The (now even more) bloated section about linguistic differences are unsuitable for the lead (and of little interest to English-language readers, and not mentioned at all at de:Essen). I'm going to remove them; I wouldn't object to add it under an appropriate heading further down in the article. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- It is absolutely out of question to discuss these issues on ten different talk pages bilaterally, like the IP user suggested. This shouls be done on talk:Limburgish. Additionally, the IP adress received an answer here that was not positive for him/her.
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