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On 19 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Dnce. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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[edit]Does it really matter that they performed there? If we list this, I feel we should list EVERY performance they have ever done. I feel it's unnessecary information. Golde62 (talk) 02:03, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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Requested move 19 July 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus about whether consistent capitalization and pronunciation like if it were an initialism vs. the derivation of the name from the word "dance" takes priority. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 01:18, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
DNCE → Dnce – Artist name is not an initialism and should be at the lowercase title as per MOS:ALLCAPS. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 19:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, I don't think this one is a problem. Lowercase seems out of place here, let's leave it uppercased which also matches the proper name of the band. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support as the article says, it's just an intentional misspelling of Dance, not an acronym. Dicklyon (talk) 05:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support—I can see why at first glance you might take it as an initialism. But it's not. Tony (talk) 00:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Not an acronym/initialism, but an intentional misspelling, so lowercase per MOS:TM, MOS:CAPS / WP:NCCAPS, MOS:ABBR. This is exactly the same sort of case as Chvrches (stylized CHVRCHES) and Client (band) (stylized CLIEͶT), and also similar to others like The Weeknd, Grindr, Tumblr, Kesha (stylized Ke$ha), etc. (though I'm not sure if any of the latter sort also like to, or formerly liked to, stylize in "MARKETING ALL-CAPS"). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 15:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. It's pronounced "D-N-C-E" (not "Dance"), so the all-lowercase doesn't make sense here. See also MNEK. 162 etc. (talk) 16:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment All reliable sources cited in the article use "DNCE", not the lowercase "Dnce". See an ongoing discussion at Talk:Artms, which revolves around this same concept. At the time of this writing, there is unanimous support for "ARTMS". 162 etc. (talk) 19:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose. The WP:COMMONNAME for the group is DNCE. I'm finding this move request by way of the ongoing style discussions listing. I'm the editor that submitted the move request for Artms (mentioned above by User:162 etc.) and I concur that this is the same concept. A Yahoo News article posted yesterday observes the DNCE stylization, as does a majority of the sources already linked in this article. I am not going to relink them all here just to make a point, but you should take a look at all of them. Do any of them not observe the stylization, in either title or the body of the article?
- In addition to the sources accepted in this article either majority or unanimously using the name of DNCE, streaming services like Apple Music, Spotify, Amazon Music, Tidal, all use the DNCE stylization, and the group appears to clearly and consistently identify/refer to themselves using this stylization (see SNS profiles on X ,Instagram, TikTok, YouTube), and refer also to their official website. 122141510 (talk) 19:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Support. The article says it's "eye dialect for Dance", not an abbreviation, so the all-caps styling is a purely stylistic thing which we don't follow (just as we don't use italics, small caps or whatever other gimmicks artists might come up with for marketing purposes). Gawaon (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)- Per MOS:TMRULES,
When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
Refer to my comment above as making a case that the name of this group is almost never written except in a particular stylized form. 122141510 (talk) 19:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)- From the examples to that rule, it seems to apply to stuff such as digits in names, not to all-caps. According to the same section, all-caps are only "preferred if the letters are pronounced individually". We seem to agree that this is not the case here. Gawaon (talk) 19:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- The section you're citing is speciying a situation where the use of all caps is preferred, but does not say that is the only situation where it is preferred. It also doesn't say anything about disallowing it otherwise. The section I cited is clearer direction. 122141510 (talk) 20:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- From the examples to that rule, it seems to apply to stuff such as digits in names, not to all-caps. According to the same section, all-caps are only "preferred if the letters are pronounced individually". We seem to agree that this is not the case here. Gawaon (talk) 19:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- The "eye dialect" mention in the article was unsourced and I've removed it. As I noted above, this band's name is pronounced D-N-C-E; it is not pronounced "Dance". 162 etc. (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- That's interesting, if true. But, crucially: Do you have a reliable source for it? Gawaon (talk) 19:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- See [1][2], or this short Billboard interview where the band themselves explain it. 162 etc. (talk) 20:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- All right, I'll change my position. Gawaon (talk) 21:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- See [1][2], or this short Billboard interview where the band themselves explain it. 162 etc. (talk) 20:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- That's interesting, if true. But, crucially: Do you have a reliable source for it? Gawaon (talk) 19:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Per MOS:TMRULES,
- Changed to oppose, because the sources found by 162 etc. indicate that the preferred pronunciation is letter-by-letter (D-N-C-E), which calls for all-caps. Gawaon (talk) 21:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support. It's clear they meant to spell 'dance' wrong on purpose, not create an abbreviation. Waqar💬 18:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- But considering that it's pronounced D-N-C-E (not "dance"), does title case really make sense? Gawaon (talk) 17:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per 122141510 and 162 etc. SnowFire (talk) 01:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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