Talk:Cystocele

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this article is almost a direct quote from [http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/cystocele/index.htm]70.136.89.194 22:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is probably true. But the source and content is in the public domain. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ ^{and Merry Christmas} 22:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

hospital stays

These are much shorter now, two to three days, or overnight. Some day procedures are now commonly done. JustAnMD 18:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

With a reference, that content would make the article better. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ ^{and Merry Christmas} 22:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

This article seems to give the impression that the bladder has actually ruptured through the dividing tissue between bladder and vagina. As I understand it, however, a cystocele typically is an outpouching of bladder wall that pushes against abnormally lax tissue and thus bulges into the vagina, but does not compromise the integrity of the vaginal wall. Perhaps the author could clarify this issue.

Refs for every statement

A bunch of references were removed so I have restored them. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pelvic exercises

Ref says "the health care provider may recommend pelvic muscle exercises, a vaginal pessary, or surgery."[1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:12, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"No treatment"

Advise on lifestyle changes is "no treatment". Thus IMO we do not need both. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:18, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not really supported

"Cycstocele has negative affect on the quality of life for women who have these conditions".^[1]

Ref says "INTRODUCTION AND HYPOTHESIS: Pelvic floor disorders (PFDs) negatively affect quality of life in the general population," Not specifically about cystocele. And we previously say that some have no symptoms so it does not negatively affect QOL of all those affected. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:26, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am so sorry, I did not mean to ignore your comments. I will see what changes need to be made based on your observations and comments. best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 19:57, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These sources discuss a decreased quality of life in women with cystocele: this source but it doesn't seem to be good enough for MEDRS. It pulls together a lot of primary sources but doesn't call itself a review. This ref is ok. Here is another. A textbook is here. Another, another, another,

It's been difficult sorting out the info on pelvic organ prolapse (pop) and the specific type of pop, cystocele. This is not a synth, but an interpretation. References describe pop, define it with the example of cystocele, and then make general statements about pop. I would compare it to the following.

The Ausable River begins in Grayling County.ref
Grayling county is in Michigan.ref
The Ausable river is in Michigan.no ref

Here is great example to show what I mean. It states that pop affects quality of life. Then it defines pop to include cystocele.

Thoughts? Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 20:12, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

^ Ramaseshan, Aparna S.; Felton, Jessica; Roque, Dana; Rao, Gautam; Shipper, Andrea G.; Sanses, Tatiana V. D. (2017-09-19). "Pelvic floor disorders in women with gynecologic malignancies: a systematic review". International Urogynecology Journal: 1–18. doi:10.1007/s00192-017-3467-4. ISSN 0937-3462.

I think you most recent ones work. Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Additional resources

Additional resources can be found here:^[1]^[2]

^ "Cystocele | Medical Conditions | Rush University Medical Center". Rush University Medical Center. Retrieved 2017-12-28.
^ "Prosthetic Pelvic Organ Prolapse Repair - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov". Retrieved 2017-12-28.

Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 15:01, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further names

We generally put less common names in the infobox. "Anterior vaginal wall collapse" is not commonly used and thus in the infobox is sufficient IMO. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:53, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[rama-1] Ramaseshan, Aparna S.; Felton, Jessica; Roque, Dana; Rao, Gautam; Shipper, Andrea G.; Sanses, Tatiana V. D. (2017-09-19). "Pelvic floor disorders in women with gynecologic malignancies: a systematic review". International Urogynecology Journal: 1–18. doi:10.1007/s00192-017-3467-4. ISSN 0937-3462.

[2] "Cystocele | Medical Conditions | Rush University Medical Center". Rush University Medical Center. Retrieved 2017-12-28.

[3] "Prosthetic Pelvic Organ Prolapse Repair - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov". Retrieved 2017-12-28.

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