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2Suit article should remain separate

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This is Regarding The Request to Delete/Merge the 2Suit article with this article (Sex in Space)

A documentary aired on The History Channel today that featured the 2Suit. The Universe series interviewed the inventor, who tested the flight garment for the documentary, and the 2Suit was tested. The 2Suit was clearly presented as a garment for general purposes of stabilizing intimacy -- any intimacy, not just sex. It was also shown as as suit worn by a woman reading a book -- outside the context of engaging in intimacy as a flight garment/space habitat attire. She was reading a book.

The program made it very clear that the 2Suit is a flight garment, not necessarily limited to sex in space. Given that, the 2Suit more appropriate as a separate Wiki article under Environmental Suits category -- where it now is.

The 2Suit article is related to Sex in Space but the article is substantially separate. That's a lot to merge with the general topic of 'sex in space.' Internal links would cross-reference them.

This debate should be evaluated and investigated. Can someone help out with this? --IMC.esq (talk) 06:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Check on the posts below referencing there was a discussion -- no record of any discussion. (Correct me please if I'm missing it.)

And the results of 7 Nov 2007 was to KEEP (not "no consensus" as noted here.

This should be checked by senior admin for bias.

--IMC.esq (talk) 11:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Split (2009)

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I have now split 2suit back into its own article. The situation changed severely after the merge decision, when the 2suit was featured in a History Channel documentary. Not just peripherally: the bloody things were demonstrated in zero gravity. Naturally, making our decisions binding even when the facts change would be one of the more spectacular ways of destroying the encyclopedia. I contacted the editor who did the merge and the nomination, and he agreed with the split. (well what he actually wrote was "jackhammer," but I had asked him to do that if he concurred.)

If this article remains an obscenity upon thy eyes, don't be a *****. Please contact me, contact someone else, contact the relevant wikiprojects, perhaps do some editing yourself - just don't jump directly and entirely unnecessarily to another wrangle about deletion. We're all tired of this. --Kizor 20:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The suit's article was previously merged into Sex in space, and then massively elaborated on so that it mostly took over the article. There is probably some useful material here for developing this article further. Honestly, my main concern right now is getting the suit out of the SiS article and into a valid one on its own. --Kizor 21:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The suit is not just for sex in space, I find it helpful for trampoline and base juming sex as well. Lattefever (talk) 17:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Lattefever[reply]

Minor Points

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The article mentions "the complete lack of attraction of physical mass in weightless environments". Clearly, this has no basis in fact. Perhaps it needs a [sic]or something like that to make it clear she said this (if she did); but that it's not true! Jpeaton (talk) 14:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply The reference is in the TV documentary and was a physical sensation rather than a molecular experiment. Should probably be modified to include Bonta's description of a sensation. IMC.esq (talk) 20:23, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Issues resolved in 2009

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Issues on this page, i.e. photo copyrights and mergers with article, were resolved by an admin in 2009 IMC.esq (talk) 20:23, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of 2suit

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  • Strongly oppose The nominator, 65.94.42.219, has failed to link to any previous discussion on a decision to delete this article. I checked some history, found that there was a a consensus to merge to sex in space, but then four months after the merge ( 2008-12-30), notability was established by new sources, & the article was recreated (2009-04-22). I am going to remove the speedy deletion nomination for two reasons:
    • In the nine years since it has been recreated, editors have added additional information. To speedily delete this before having a chance to move the material from subsequent edits into another article would certainly lose relevant & useful information.
    • After nine years, this article has reached WP:EDITCONSENSUS. A speedy deletion would thus violate the Wikipedia policy on consensus. This requires a fresh nomination for deletion.
Peaceray (talk) 05:24, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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