1908 VPI football team
1908 VPI football | |
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Conference | Independent |
Record | 5–4 |
Head coach |
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Captain | Joseph Talmage Luttrell |
Home stadium | Gibboney Field |
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Team | W | L | T | W | L | T | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Southwestern Louisiana Industrial | – | 6 | – | 0 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Virginia | – | 7 | – | 0 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Rollins | – | 4 | – | 0 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
George Washington | – | 8 | – | 1 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Oklahoma | – | 8 | – | 1 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Tulane | – | 7 | – | 1 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
North Carolina A&M | – | 6 | – | 1 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The Citadel | – | 4 | – | 1 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Navy | – | 9 | – | 2 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Florida | – | 5 | – | 2 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
TCU | – | 6 | – | 3 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
VMI | – | 4 | – | 2 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Davidson | – | 5 | – | 3 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Baylor | – | 5 | – | 3 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
West Virginia | – | 5 | – | 3 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kentucky State | – | 4 | – | 3 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Louisiana Industrial | – | 4 | – | 3 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Arkansas | – | 5 | – | 4 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Texas | – | 5 | – | 4 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
VPI | – | 5 | – | 4 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Arkansas State Normal | – | 3 | – | 3 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Chattanooga | – | 4 | – | 4 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
North Carolina | – | 3 | – | 3 | – | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Oklahoma A&M | – | 4 | – | 4 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Delaware | – | 3 | – | 4 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kendall | – | 2 | – | 3 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
South Carolina | – | 3 | – | 5 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Texas A&M | – | 3 | – | 5 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Georgetown | – | 2 | – | 4 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Howard (AL) | – | 2 | – | 4 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Maryland | – | 3 | – | 8 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Stetson | – | 0 | – | 1 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Wake Forest | – | 1 | – | 4 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Goldey College | – | 0 | – | 2 | – | 1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mississippi College | – | 0 | – | 1 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Southwest Texas State | – | 0 | – | 2 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Marshall | – | 0 | – | 6 | – | 0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The 1908 VPI football team represented Virginia Agricultural and Mechanical College and Polytechnic Institute in the 1908 college football season. The team was led by their head coach R. M. Brown and finished with a record of five wins and four losses (5–4).
Rules
[edit]"With the modernized plays that are being brought into the game," noted one writer, "football is, in its present state, the national game in the fall the same as baseball in the summer.".[1] Rules for the forward pass, which had been legalized only two years earlier, were modified, and passing was still a risky play. "If the ball on the forward pass is touched and then freed, and is touched by another player on the passer's side, it will be given to the opponents at the point where the ball was illegally touched," and it was noted that the rule change was to stop the practice of a passer throwing the ball high "with the hopes that some one of his teammates would get the ball in the general scramble that followed,".[2] In addition, halftime was extended from ten minutes to fifteen [2]
The rules for American football in 1908 were significantly different from whose of a century later, as many of the present rules (100 yard field, four downs to gain ten yards, 6-point touchdown and the 3-point field goal) were not adopted until 1912.[3] The rules in 1908 were:
- Field 110 yards in length
- Kickoff made from midfield
- Three downs to gain ten yards
- Touchdown worth 5 points
- Field goal worth 4 points
- Forward pass legal, but subject to penalties
Schedule
[edit]Date | Time | Opponent | Site | Result | Attendance | Source |
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October 3 | Hampden–Sydney | W 50–0 | [4] | |||
October 10 | at Clemson |
| W 6–0 | [5] | ||
October 17 | 3:00 p.m. | at Princeton | L 4–10 | 3,000 | [6][7][8] | |
October 24 | 3:30 p.m. | vs. VMI | Roanoke, VA (rivalry) | W 10–0 | [9] | |
October 31 | vs. Washington and Lee | Lynchburg, VA | W 15–4 | 5,000 | [10][11] | |
November 7 | 3:30 p.m. | vs. North Carolina | W 10–0 | 2,000 | [12][13][14] | |
November 14 | 4:45 p.m. | George Washington |
| L 0–6 | [15] | |
November 21 | at Navy | L 4–15 | [16] | |||
November 26 | 3:00 p.m. | vs. North Carolina A&M |
| L 5–6 | 5,000 | [17] |
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Game summaries
[edit]Hampden–Sydney
[edit]Clemson
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The starting lineup for VPI was: Huffard (left end), H. Jones (left tackle), Campbell (left guard), Gibbs (center), H. Hodgson (right guard), J. Jones (right tackle), Hicks (right end), Connolly (quarterback), Luttrell (left halfback), Billups (right halfback), V. Hodgson (fullback).
The starting lineup for Clemson was: T. E. Horton (left end), F. V. Gilmer (left tackle), Frank Fleming (left guard), J. T. Cochran (center), Onan Hydrick (right guard), William Odom (right tackle), Walter White (right end), Stricker Coles (quarterback), R. D. McFadden (left halfback), C. F. Lokey (right halfback), Charles Robbs (fullback).
Princeton
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The starting lineup for VPI was: Huffard (left end), H. Jones (left tackle), Walker (left guard), Gibbs (center), H. Hodgson (right guard), J. Jones (right tackle), Hicks (right end), Connolly (quarterback), Luttrell (left halfback), Billups (right halfback), V. Hodgson (fullback).
The starting lineup for Princeton was: Harry G. Buckingham (left end), Rudolph Siegling (left tackle), P. E. Waller (left guard), N. R. Cass (center), D. M. MacFayden (right guard), F. C. Bamman (right tackle), T. H. Welch (right end), R. E. Bard (quarterback), F. B. Read (left halfback), C. S. Coxe (right halfback), V. S. Merle-Smith (fullback). The substitutes were: Frank Bergin, H. W. Bishop, A. B. Clark, Logan Cunningham, Fred Dawson, E. C. Feigenspann, H. E. Gill, P. M. King, T. N. Pfeiffer, W. R. Sparks, Frederick Tibbott, J. Waller and F. M. Whaley.
VMI
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The starting lineup for VPI was: Huffard (left end), H. Jones (left tackle), Walker (left guard), Gibbs (center), H. Hodgson (right guard), J. Jones (right tackle), Hicks (right end), Connolly (quarterback), Luttrell (left halfback), Billups (right halfback), V. Hodgson (fullback).
The starting lineup for VMI was: William Poague (left end), George Alexander (left tackle), John Minton (left guard), Harry Dashiell (center), Richard Clemmer (right guard), H. Pattison (right tackle), Henry Poague (right end), Donald McMillen (quarterback), G. Cook Ferebee (left halfback), Porter (right halfback), George MacLean (fullback). The substitutes were: R. DeVant, Paul English, Herbert Kinsolving and Thomas Scott.
Washington and Lee
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The starting lineup for VPI was: Huffard (left end), H. Jones (left tackle), Walker (left guard), Gibbs (center), H. Hodgson (right guard), J. Jones (right tackle), Hicks (right end), A. Hodgson (quarterback), Luttrell (left halfback), Billups (right halfback), V. Hodgson (fullback). The substitutes were: Connolly and Gravely.
The starting lineup for Washington and Lee was: Carey (left end), Cleon Osbourn (left tackle), Richard Morales (left guard), William Pipes (center), Julian Pelter (right guard), Guyte McCord (right tackle), Henry Smartt (right end), W. H. Feuerstein (quarterback), John Izard (left halfback), W. C. Armentrout (right halfback), Edwin Alderson (fullback).
North Carolina
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The starting lineup for VPI was: Huffard (left end), H. Jones (left tackle), Walker (left guard), Gibbs (center), H. Hodgson (right guard), J. Jones (right tackle), Hicks (right end), Connolly (quarterback), Luttrell (left halfback), Billups (right halfback), V. Hodgson (fullback). The substitutes were: Davis.
The starting lineup for North Carolina was: James Wiggins (left end), Cecil Garrett (left tackle), George Rodgers (left guard), Archie Deans (center), Robert Howell (right guard), Eston Norwood (right tackle), John Manning (right end), John Tillett (quarterback), Colin Ruffin (left halfback), William Thomas (right halfback), Louis Belden (fullback). The substitutes were: William Lester and Daniel Williams.
George Washington
[edit]Navy
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The starting lineup for VPI was: Huffard (left end), H. Jones (left tackle), Walker (left guard), Gibbs (center), H. Hodgson (right guard), Smith (right tackle), Hicks (right end), Connolly (quarterback), Luttrell (left halfback), Davis (right halfback), V. Hodgson (fullback). The substitutes were: J. Jones.
The starting lineup for Navy was: Raymond Jones (left end), Percy Northcroft (left tackle), George Meyer (left guard), Charles Brand (center), Percy Wright (right guard), Frank Leighton (right tackle), Davis (right end), Ed Lange (quarterback), John Dalton (left halfback), Henry Clay (right halfback), W. A. Richardson (fullback). The substitutes were: Anderson, Lee Carey, Calvin Cobb, Dixon, Robert Elmer, Grafton, Hibbard, T. Starr King, Elmer Niles, Frederick Reinicke, Ingram C. Sowell and Stewart.
North Carolina A&M
[edit]The starting lineup for VPI was: Huffard (left end), H. Jones (left tackle), Walker (left guard), Gibbs (center), H. Hodgson (right guard), Smith (right tackle), Hicks (right end), Connolly (quarterback), Luttrell (left halfback), Billups (right halfback), V. Hodgson (fullback). The substitutes were: Davis, Jones, Legge and Norris.
The starting lineup for North Carolina A&M was: Harry Hartsell (left end), J. L. Von Glahn (left tackle), James Dunn (left guard), John Bray (center), E. C. Gattis (right guard), J. B. Ross (right tackle), James Sadler (right end), Samuel Stephens (quarterback), J. W. Sexton (left halfback), Frank Thompson (right halfback), J. S. Stroud (fullback). The substitutes were: Joseph Davidson, D. B. Floyd, William Johnson, Harry Mott, David Seifert, S. A. Spencer, Joseph Whitehurst and Wilson.
Players
[edit]The following players were members of the 1908 football team according to the roster published in the 1909 edition of The Bugle, the Virginia Tech yearbook.[18]
VPI 1908 roster | ||||||||
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Quarterback
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Ends
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Coaching and training staff
[edit]- Head coach: R. M. Brown
- Manager: H. H. Hutchinson
- Assistant manager: F. C. Stoneburner
References
[edit]- ^ "'Big Five' Football Teams Begin Practice Next Week," The Atlanta Constitution, Sep. 14 '08, p7
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- ^ Danzig, Allison (1956). The History of American Football: Its Great Teams, Players, and Coaches. Englewood Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall. pp. 70–71.
- ^ "Techs Outclass Hampden-Sidney". Richmond Times-Dispatch. Library of Congress. October 4, 1908. p. 7. Retrieved August 16, 2022.
- ^ "Clemson---V.P.I. Game". The Tiger. Clemson University. October 15, 1908. p. 10. Retrieved February 23, 2022.
- ^ "Tigers Were Hard Pushed". The Evening Star. Library of Congress. October 19, 1908. p. 6. Retrieved January 29, 2022.
- ^ "V.P.I. Defeated". The Daily Princetonian. Princeton University. October 19, 1908. p. 1. Retrieved February 22, 2022.
- ^ "Virginia "Poly" Scores On Tigers". The New York Times. October 18, 1908. p. 49. Retrieved February 15, 2024.
- ^ "V.P.I. The Winner By Small Margin". The Cadet. Virginia Military Institute. October 27, 1908. p. 1. Retrieved February 22, 2022.
- ^ "Techs Play Rings Round W. & L." Richmond Times-Dispatch. Library of Congress. November 1, 1908. p. 5. Retrieved December 10, 2022.
- ^ "V. P. I. Wins The Lynchburg Game". The Ring-tum Phi. Washington and Lee University. November 2, 1908. p. 1. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ^ "Techs and Tarheels Ready For the Fray". Richmond Times-Dispatch. Library of Congress. November 7, 1908. p. 5. Retrieved December 10, 2022.
- ^ "Tech Outpoint Carolina Rivals". Richmond Times-Dispatch. Library of Congress. November 8, 1908. p. 1. Retrieved December 10, 2022.
- ^ "V.P.I. Defeats Carolina". The Tar Heel. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. November 12, 1908. p. 1. Retrieved February 21, 2022.
- ^ "South Atlantic Football Championship". The GW Hatchet. George Washington University. November 19, 1908. p. 1. Retrieved August 13, 2022.
- ^ "V.P.I. Meets Navy With Swift Front". The Washington Times. Library of Congress. November 22, 1908. p. 16. Retrieved August 13, 2022.
- ^ "Their Relations Are Broken Off". Richmond Times-Dispatch. Library of Congress. November 27, 1908. p. 9. Retrieved December 10, 2022.
- ^ "The Bugle 1909" (PDF). Virginia Tech Bugle. 1909. p. 152. Retrieved November 18, 2015.