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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 21:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saleh Al-Arfej

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Poorly sourced BLP on a footballer with a very brief career and no evidence of a WP:SPORTBASIC pass, created by a now-banned user. My Arabic searches yielded stats coverage on Kooora and Koraplus and a match report mention on Kooora. None of this is even close to enough. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 19:32, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 09:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The match report is not significant, nor does it describe Saleh Al-Arfej in big detail. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:42, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to All-time D.C. United roster. ✗plicit 14:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Carroll (soccer)

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Minor soccer player supported only by primary sources and routine coverage. Fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, spells in his two last clubs only yielded 829 minutes of playing time combined. Geschichte (talk) 12:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to All-time D.C. United roster as claim to fame and possible search term. Giant Snowman 21:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to All-time D.C. United roster: as above Demt1298 (talk) 15:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to All-time D.C. United roster. ✗plicit 14:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pat Carroll (soccer)

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Minor soccer player supported only by primary sources. Fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, spells in his two clubs only yielded 366 minutes of playing time combined. Geschichte (talk) 12:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to All-time D.C. United roster as claim to fame and possible search term. Giant Snowman 21:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to All-time D.C. United roster: as above Demt1298 (talk) 15:35, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tomáš Vantruba

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Yet another long-time stub of a Slovak men's footballer named Tomáš without sign of meeting WP:GNG. He played 87 minutes of professional league before moving to lower leagues. There are some mentions of him with his twin brother, Martin, but I can't find sources to merit a standalone, independent SIGCOV for Tomáš Vantruba himself. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Didn't really have a career, so what can we expect coverage-wise? Geschichte (talk) 13:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 03:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Nance

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this American soccer player. Fails WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:32, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for failure of WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 13:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG. No evidence of WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 15:36, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

George Silva

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Delete - I could not find decent sources with significant coverage of the subject. Nothing that added flesh to the bones of various listings and stats sites. I therefore submit that the subject does not meet WP:NSPORTS, and I note that the article has been unsourced and out-of-date for some time. It is possible that better sources exist in Portuguese that I haven't found, in which case I would be happy to withdraw my nomination. SunloungerFrog (talk) 20:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- Also could not find any sources. The article itself only essentially says "He's a footballer (team, position)" Mrfoogles (talk) 18:22, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Article about former footballer who appears to have primarily played as a semi-pro (not at the highest levels of Brazilian football). His biggest achievement was probably being a squad member in Remo's 2007 Campeonato Paraense-winning side (although I found this match preview which strongly suggests he was only a fringe player during the competition). He played one season in the 2009 Campeonato Paulista A1 with Noroeste, but only appeared in 11 matches as the club finished dead last, and he briefly appeared in the 2011 Campeonato Brasileiro Serie D as Operário failed to advance beyond the initial group phase. Overall, a non-notable career, and I can't find anything that suggests WP:GNG could be met. Jogurney (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Easy call. Fails every measure of notability. Go4thProsper (talk) 02:17, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No reliable sources found. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Torres (footballer, born 1992)

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A very brief career with no significant coverage per WP:SPORTBASIC. All I can find are trivial mentions like this and this. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, 2,000 light years away from meeting the notability criteria. Geschichte (talk) 20:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:12, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. Not to mention this is one of the common birth names in the Spanish-speaking world that namesakes may be found, even by searching in conjugation with the person's clubs. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – insignificant coverage for a Wikipedia article. C 679 13:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I added to the article what I could find about him, it is clearly not enough. No reliable source found, apparently this person exists but it is not enough to have an article. SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 15:40, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Félix Rodríguez (Mexican footballer)

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Had a brief career in the second tier of Mexico but searches yield nothing that could even come close to counting towards WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:46, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, having a blast going through all the non-notable Mexican players. You forgot to mention that the article creator is blocked indefinitely, having disrupted Wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 20:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't imagine how many more of these stubs we'd have to deal with if they were not blocked when they were. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:12, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – insignificant coverage for a Wikipedia article. C 679 13:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jonh González

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Played 44 mins of professional football but no other claim to notability. All I can find is trivial stuff like El Orbe. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:41, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, when I come around to assessing the sources he is far from meeting the notability criteria. Geschichte (talk) 20:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – insignificant coverage for a Wikipedia article. C 679 13:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 17:43, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vincenzo Patrick Guglielmelli

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Delete - I could find no significant coverage whatsoever in any source, reliable or otherwise. Plenty of listings and stats sites, all of which are fairly scanty. Career highlight seems to have been one season at Ascoli when they were a Serie A club, during which the subject did not appear to have played any matches. I therefore submit that WP:NSPORT is not met, and note that the article has been practically unsourced since its inception. SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Player with participation only in the Italian Serie C2, and without sources that establish WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 15:32, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Search engine results pull up listings without significant coverage and (weirdly enough) a pronunciation video. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 01:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete reference on article says he played 78 games in his whole career, all in Serie C2, which to my understanding is the fourth tier. No appearances when on professional books at Ascoli and Perugia. The reference is from a page called "Tutto Calciatori", meaning "Everything Footballers", by far a better project for someone of this limited notability (databases, not encylopedias). Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of National Premier Soccer League teams. ✗plicit 03:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alabama Spirit

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Redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams as I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 03:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 15:05, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. Svartner (talk) 16:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams: as above Demt1298 (talk) 15:36, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of National Premier Soccer League teams. (non-admin closure) Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

San Diego Pumitas

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I am having trouble finding anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this short-lived American soccer team. All that I found were mentions in game recaps (1, 2, etc.). Possible redirect targets include National Premier Soccer League and List of National Premier Soccer League teams. JTtheOG (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 02:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 15:05, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per nomination.--Loewstisch (talk) 13:19, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams: as above Demt1298 (talk) 15:37, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:55, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Saint Louis Athletica players

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Subject does not appear to meet the WP:NLIST as there is a lack of third party coverage of the grouping. PROD was removed so bringing this to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 21:54, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Almost no notability, and a category does the job better. Svartner (talk) 02:23, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - 'List of X players' can be notable, but not for this club. Giant Snowman 15:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - It appears that this list is not notable, particularly as the club did not even compete for two full seasons. I found an article in a local (Alton, Illinois) newspaper from May 2010 that covers the club's demise, and it only mentions a few of the players that were under contract (only the national team players). At most, I could see a list covering the club's most notable players perhaps meeting our notability standards, but that list would be so small I don't see how it would be useful. Jogurney (talk) 05:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Saint Louis Athletica and its season articles. There's really no reason for this information to be deleted apart from the fact it's an all time roster for a team that played 1⅓ seasons - this was a top flight football team, albeit a very financially insecure one - and NLIST does not require a list to be discussed in secondary sources, it's just one of the reasons why a list could be notable. SportingFlyer T·C 06:47, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The rosters for each season are already on the respective season articles and the final roster is already on the team article. I don't see what a merge would include that isn't already in those articles. Being a top flight club doesn't have any relation here. Let'srun (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Teppei Uesugi

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The claim to notability, playing 16 football games (and probabaly not full games) in Singapore is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that, and as such he fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Sources in Japanese Wikipedia are either primary or not in-depth. Geschichte (talk) 21:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shingo Shibata

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The claim to notability, playing 16 football games (and probabaly not full games) is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that, and as such he fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Sources in Japanese Wikipedia are either trivial/primary or do not work. Geschichte (talk) 21:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – The only source provided is a dead link to statistics. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:24, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alejandro Muñóz

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No indication of meeting WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:GNG. Played 731 minutes in Mexico's second league. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 18:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Player is not notable and a search yields no reliable sources supporting his notability. Madeleine961 (talk) 19:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pavol Zemanovič

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His professional career only lasted three minutes and he has disappeared for over one decade. The only secondary source I found is a passing mention on SME. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:09, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, no credible claim to notability worth discussing. Geschichte (talk) 18:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Doesn't appear to be notable, subject fails WP:NSPORTS and WP:NBIO. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:34, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- Article fails WP:GNG per nominator's BEFORE search. Jogurney (talk) 18:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 20:13, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Jara

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Failure of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Only played 706 minutes in Peru as well as the Chilean second division. Kept before due to a guideline that no longer exists. A WP:BEFORE only yielded this piece from before he went to Peru, and this quote-heavy piece – in addition to databases and passing mentions. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: not notable, couldn't find any other sources that would make the player pass GNG Noah ^💬 18:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:50, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:49, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Piotr Bartkowiak

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The article of this Polish men's footballer has been tagged for notability issues for more 15 years. He only played four matches with Lech Poznań in Extraklarsa, before moving to lower clubs then disappeared for over two decades. I can't find anything other than database sources and a lot of results show the unrelated assistant coach Karol Bartkowiak. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - if you want the article cleaned up or looked at, then sending it to AfD is not the right way to go about it. Doubtless, nineteen years on people will be able to find better sources than me. I remember translating several footballers' articles from foreign-language Wikipedias back in the day and if it seems so long since I worked on Polish footballers. The article was deleted on pl.wiki around three weeks after I submitted it to en.wiki on whatever the equivalent is on Poland's AfD. Bobo . 15:36, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:50, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I could not find any sources. Plwiki tends to require less for notability, so this person is unlikely to be notable on enwiki too. NicolausPrime (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a delete due to the lack of playing time at the higher level, and sources. Geschichte (talk) 14:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:43, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2009–10 FC Nistru season

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stub not currently fit for mainspace and no evidence of notability Microwave Anarchist (talk) 03:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Article on the beginnings of the project. Svartner (talk) 09:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment All the other teams have pages of similar quality. See the navbox Geschichte (talk) 14:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geschichte: - I am well aware, listing this individually because I have been told not to bundle nominations for different clubs' seasons. I will likely list those too if there is consensus to delete. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 02:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good idea. 98% of bundled nominations go awry. If this page goes down, maybe similar ones can be prodded Geschichte (talk) 09:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We could potentially have an article on this, but it needs to be properly sourced for mainspace to demonstrate notability, and this is currently unsourced. SportingFlyer T·C 07:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Sky Sport (Italy)#Sky Sport Calcio. Owen× ☎ 20:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sky Sport Serie A

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Zero references other than their own website. North8000 (talk) 20:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I can't even verify that this was ever a TV Channel. The 'source' provided is just the Serie A section of the Sky website. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:14, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sky Italia#Sky Sport and Sky Calcio – Is also a valid WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 09:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect and marge but to Sky Sport (Italy), sorry Svartner but I feel my suggestion would be a better redirect target. @GiantSnowman: redirect?? Cheap?? Govvy (talk) 10:16, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Spiderone It was rebranded to Sky sport calcio, regards, Govvy (talk) 10:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'm not opposed to redirecting to your suggestion. Svartner (talk) 17:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, happy with a redirect! Giant Snowman 19:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Govvy Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:36, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sky Sport (Italy)#Sky Sport Calcio Actual article content here is nonsense from a globally-locked account which reads like Google Translate polling ChatGPT for some reason (unlike the infobox saying this is a UK-based channel, it's Italian); this is a real channel, but it mainly only carries soccer-related content. Nate • (chatter) 01:35, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 23:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cherdsak Chaiyabutr

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reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Of the 4 references, the first is a youtube video,, the 2nd and 3rd just includ a single mention of his name in a list. I can't find anything at the 4th references although the title looks like an entry in a 1977 newspaper that says that their team won. Tagged by others for wp:notability sinces September. North8000 (talk) 22:14, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The Youtube video in question is a nationally televised TV programme dedicated to profiling renowned sportspeople from the past. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I'm not good at finding Thai sources but from quick glances, apparently, he's now vice president of the Football Association of Thailand as of July 2024 according to this and this which could demonstrate some notability. I could also find a sports program dedicated to him here and had some brief success as a youth coach in 2009. He's also repeatedly mentioned in notable Thai footballers of the 1970s such as this and this, He also participated in the 1976 King's Cup according to this site. SuperSkaterDude45 (discusión) 04:05, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- He's a member of the board, but not the vice president. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – References to social media are unreliable per WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK and WP:SELFPUB, thus should never be used on articles. They also don't demonstrate notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- What are you referring to by "References to social media"? --Paul_012 (talk) 20:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  YouTube reference on the article. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:53, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Youtube is a video-hosting platform. While it has social media features and features user-generated content, none of that is relevant to the video, which, as the citation already clearly notes, and I pointed out again above, is a TV production. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:19, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Has a significant career from the pre-digital era, so offline sources likely exist. For example, the TV programme that interviewed him shows a 1989 magazine cover featuring him at the 36 second mark, as well as several magazine spreads, which were likely accompanied by in-depth profile pieces. The daily sports tabloid Star Soccer recently featured a profile of him in its 4 August 2024 issue. Apart from that and the Nation TV programme, most search results are brief mentions, including him becoming advisor for Saraburi United F.C.[1] and heading a youth football programme in Khon Kaen, [2], in addition to those noted above by SuperSkaterDude45. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. In additional to the in-depth coverage by Nation TV and Star Soccer mentioned above, I'm convinced that additional older sources are also very likely to exist. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Giantsnowman:, Per above. Clearly was significant fihgure in Thai football with offline sources. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 19:40, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 23:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bruno Bogojević

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Not only no GNG references, has no references other than 4 database listings. North8000 (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it was fairly trivial to find some mainstream Croatian sports coverage like the Večernji list report on when he signed to Rijeka [3] or some of the Sportske novosti articles tagged with his name [4], and these newspapers talk of an experienced player. If we drop this biography where over a hundred appearances are recorded at the top level of a national football league over a period of many years, we would in turn have to drop probably many many more. --Joy (talk) 00:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Joy, good WP:COMMONSENSE arguments. Giant Snowman 20:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Incredibly easy search to do in Croatian as he is an established HNL player. [5] [6] [7] [8] and on HRT national channel [9]. Needs improvement, not deletion. SportingFlyer T·C 07:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Svartner:, Per above. Clearly significant player in pro Croatian top flight with lots of soucrs. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Nobody is talking about GNG type coverage which is the requirement. North8000 (talk) 21:45, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is flagrantly untrue. I've provided several sources which are all common coverage in Croatian sources, and he's been at least mentioned 42 times in articles put out by the national Croatian broadcaster. SportingFlyer T·C 22:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You sourced routine match coverage (the same two goals in a 4-0 win) and transfer news (the same signing for Rijeka). None of the sources provide sigcov of Bogojević. Dougal18 (talk) 10:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If that is considered routine then we're never going to have an article on any Croatian anymore, because that is how Croatian players are covered. Bogojević is well covered in Croatian media: [10] SportingFlyer T·C 19:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The main point is (roughly speaking, see WP:GNG for the long accurate version ) providing 2 suitable sources that cover him IN DEPTH. Not just a lot of separate factoids and mentions. And that IS the criteria, and not everyone meets it which is why 99.99% of the people in the world don't have a separate Wikipedia article on them. One can pick a source or two and argue that they are close enough to meet the GNG requirement but just saying that there are a lot of mentions while completely ignoring GNG (the main requirement) is not relevant. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 22:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of football clubs in Pakistan. (non-admin closure) — Benison (Beni · talk) 14:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chand FC Layyah

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. All 6 of the references are just databases All of the content is derived from database factoids. Says the last played 11 years ago but never even says what happened to them. North8000 (talk) 21:47, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of football clubs in Pakistan – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 22:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of football clubs in Pakistan: Lack of WP:SIGCOV, can be redirected to List of football clubs in Pakistan Demt1298 (talk) 14:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:NSPORT along with GNG. Wikibear47 (talk) 15:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 20:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of football clubs in Pakistan. (non-admin closure) — Benison (Beni · talk) 14:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mardan Blue Star FC

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Oof the seven reference, 4 are databases, 2 don't even mention them and one has a paragraph w3hich says they were going to the finals one year. All of the content is derived from database factoids. Say the last played 10 years ago but never eves says what happened to them. North8000 (talk) 21:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of football clubs in Pakistan: Lack of WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 14:14, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Lacks reliable secondary sources. Wikibear47 (talk) 15:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Utrilla

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Absence of sources discussing the individual in detail. As a footballer it appears he played a single league match in 2016. This is far below the threshold for establishing notability. C 679 07:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, nowhere close to notable. Geschichte (talk) 20:11, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 01:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brayan Velásquez

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There is nothing notable about playing 28 football games in the league of Honduras, and youth world cups do not grant notability either. This would need several good WP:SIGCOV pieces to even be considered as passing the notability bar. Geschichte (talk) 16:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Passes WP:SPORTSBASIC. Here are a few examples from the just the first couple pages in google news: [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18] There are more...4meter4 (talk) 17:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 09:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The above sources are transfer stories/match reports/interviews which are routine coverage and do not pass GNG. Dougal18 (talk) 10:32, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the match report on news media only focuses on a specific footballer and describes them in significant detail independently (that said, tiny piece of or without direct speech), would it still count towards GNG? I also was told that interview sources with big independent analysis would make the article pass GNG. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Per above. Clearly was significant figure in Hpnduran football with many sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:15, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Creator is globally locked. Not remotely indicating that WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT is met. Never played on a notable level. 0 J League games, 0 cup games. Played some school matches before retiring; why he retired is described by himself in the Nikkan Sports source in the Japanese Wikipedia. Bunshun described him starting to work in a bank, but he does not meet business bio inclusion criteria. Geschichte (talk) 14:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I don't really see how WP:GNG is not satisfied when there are multiple articles with significantly more than WP:ROUTINE mentions in Nov. 2014, Dec. 2014, Jan. 2015 and in Apr. 2022. Unless these sources fail WP:RS, the fact that there is interest in knowing more about this player who had a very unremarkable career seven/eight years on from the notable event of when he was signed out of high school is IMO a notable indication of potential notability. Most players that retire before they turn 27 with (apparently) 0 games in the top two divisions don't get anything more than a one-liner as part of a broader list of retirees or a courtesy post on the club's website, so that he had a lengthy article & interview is what stands out most to me. Probably someone who speaks Japanese could locate better sources, as I imagine there is a reason why this player's retirement received this level of attention. Shazback (talk) 21:05, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I had to translate them, but I think the sources provided by Shazback are significant coverage enough to pass GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 06:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Shazback’s sources. Absurdum4242 (talk) 15:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Thanks to Shazback for finding these sources. The subject comfortably meets GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 22:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per sources found by Shazback. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Serie A broadcasters

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Notability of this topic has not changed since the last AFD 6-7 months ago. It still falls foul of WP:NOTTVGUIDE, and doesn't meet WP:LISTN or WP:GNG. I would support WP:SALTing this to prevent another re-creation. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom. Not deemed to have standalone notability here (straight lift from itwiki which can set their own inclusion standards) and already deleted recently only to re-appear due to the page title being 'freed'. Crowsus (talk) 12:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I think it's important to note that it's not a direct recreation. There was a request for speedy deletion which was denied by Asilvering saying decline WP:G4, text greatly expanded from deleted version, no longer just a list, would need new discussion. Therefore the recreation isn't due to the page title being 'freed', but rather the creator would seem to think the expansion is enough for it to be notable enough to stand currently (also see what Claudio Fernag wrote on the talk page: This page should not be speedily deleted because the article is no substantially identical to the deleted version. The article is no longer just a list of broadcasters like when it was deleted, a context has been added that gives it notability, and verifiable and reliable sources were also included. The same happened with the article List of La Liga broadcasters, which at first was just a table with a list of broadcasters. It was nominated for deletion, more information was added to give it more notability and it was finally kept). --SuperJew (talk) 13:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Fair enough, but to be fair I couldn't see the original version for comparison. Crowsus (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and SALT I also agree with nomination, I feel this is not the right type of material we should be having on wikipedia. Govvy (talk) 17:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: but rename to "Serie A in media", "Serie A broadcasting", "Serie A on television" or similar, not opposed to Draftify until quality concerns are met. Strongly opposed to salting. The article is not in a great state and is clearly based on / inspired by the it:wiki article which is IMO in need of some editing to trim it down. Nonetheless, the notability is clearly there, and this should be the "expansion/detailed article" corresponding to the TV rights section of the Serie A article. There is repeated coverage of TV rights negotiations, impacts on viewers and commentary on current status of TV rights in the main Italian newspapers of record (e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...). There is more specialized work to analyze the landscape in niche publications / sources (which should naturally be reviewed to ensure they pass RS), such as 6, 7 (also independently published as a book, which may be better for referencing), 8, 9, 10 (appears to be a very good source, published by Taylor & Francis), 11... Research papers on this topic also exist, however I don't know if they meet our quality requirements: 12 and 13 published when Serie A TV rights were being renewed in 2005, 14, 15, 16... As well as theses (again, to check if RS is met): 17, 18. Shazback (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep am I missing something? This isn't the same article, and it seems to clearly pass WP:GNG with those Italian language articles above. We don't gatekeep if something is notable. SportingFlyer T·C 18:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also WP:NOTTVGUIDE clearly does not apply here, which is for upcoming shows on specific networks. SportingFlyer T·C 18:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They don't look like WP:SUSTAINED coverage to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are sources already in the article that span 20 years of coverage. SportingFlyer T·C 20:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What would be sufficient for WP:SUSTAINED? In 1995, half-page on page 4 of La Stampa regarding the TV rights sales of Serie A and B La Stampa 31 Oct. 1995 p.4, 2010 editorial article and analysis in La Repubblica on how TV rights sales affect the league to optimize commercial revenues La Repubblica 3 Mar. 2010 online, unknown if published... See the links above in addition... What type of sources would satisfy this aspect of the notability guideline? Shazback (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy ping to GiantSnowman, IgnatiusofLondon, TimothyBlue, SpacedFarmer as they participated in the previous AfD. Shazback (talk) 20:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Shazback:, just so you're aware, SpacedFarmer is topic banned from AfD. Conyo14 (talk) 05:12, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - article appears impressive, but is very poorly written and sourcing is inadequate to show notability of this topic. Giant Snowman 21:59, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Poor writing should be improved, not deleted. Regarding the sourcing, can you expand as two editors above have explained in detail how there is enough sourcing. --SuperJew (talk) 07:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Serie A#Television rights – No need for a fork, as decided in similar AfD in the past. If there is relevant content, simply add it to this section. Svartner (talk) 23:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Although the article can be improved, it is notable enough as shown by editors above and shouldn't be deleted. Summarising and merging is a possible alternative, though it seems to me that there is enough content for a standalone page. --SuperJew (talk) 07:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep but this still needs a lot of rework. Looking over the list, I don't see it working as a rename and it wouldn't work as a redirect. Plus, SportingFlyer gave some good sources. Conyo14 (talk) 05:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The article passes WP:GNG, but I agree that it needs significant improvement.--DesiMoore (talk) 16:02, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. No evidence of secondary coverage that shows WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 16:38, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I do see Indonesian articles such as [19] [20] [21] which demonstrate the club is covered in the media on a consistent basis, but I'm struggling with the language barrier. SportingFlyer T·C 18:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which (appear to) show notability. Giant Snowman 08:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sources in the article and this AfD only cover the game results, not the subject itself. As a team playing in the lowest division of football in Indonesia, its notability is limited to its region and it's relatively unknown on a national level. IMO, it doesn't meet the GNG. Ckfasdf (talk) 09:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that according to WP:SPORTCRIT; Local sources must be independent of the subject, and must provide reports beyond routine game coverage. None of sources in the article and this AfD provide reports beyond routine coverage, such as information about the team itself. Ckfasdf (talk) 10:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – The sources presented are sufficient for WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The sources appear to meet the required standard of notability and provide credible and sufficient evidence Bernie Clay Bear (talk) 01:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per WP:SPORTCRIT, "Local sources must be independent of the subject, and must provide reports beyond routine game coverage." None of the sources above or in general provide significant coverage of the club itself beyond routine game coverage. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Those sources are, indeed, routine game coverage - and they're the best of what's out there, TBH. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only one of the sources cited in the article actually works, and it's WP:ROUTINE. Unfortunately, so are the other sources presented by SportingFlyer. There's not enough WP:SIGCOV to support an article at this time.--DesiMoore (talk) 19:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those aren't the only sources though - a WP:BEFORE search is tricky because there's a few names this club is called, but there's definitely consistent online coverage from at least 2022. SportingFlyer T·C 22:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BEFORE searches only found a few results related to game match outcomes, which align with WP:ROUTINE. 10:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC) Ckfasdf (talk) 10:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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