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July 2

July 2, 2024 (2024-07-02) (Tuesday)

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2024 Hathras stampede

Article: 2024 Hathras stampede (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 107 people are killed in a stampede during a religious event in Uttar Pradesh, India. (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
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Article will need some work before it's ready. Estreyeria (talk) 13:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 1

July 1, 2024 (2024-07-01) (Monday)

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RD: June Leaf

Article: June Leaf (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not ready entire work section have only two sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 16:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

José Raúl Mulino becomes President of Panama

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Article: José Raúl Mulino (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ José Raúl Mulino becomes President of Panama. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ José Raúl Mulino is sworn in as President of Panama.
Alternative blurb II: ​ After winning the Panamanian general election, José Raúl Mulino becomes President of Panama.
News source(s): AP
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

--Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 21:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - This is just the swearing-in. The election was two months ago; we discussed it, but didn't manage to get it posted. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @GenevieveDEon, thats why I nominated. 2024 Panamanian general election was not posted. Doesn't this meet the WP:ITN/R qualification of: Changes in the holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government... except when that change was already posted as part of a general election? Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're both right. This is just as recurrent as the election item and just as subject to not getting posted after a discussion. It all depends who discusses what and how from here out. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support given that we didn't post the election This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Alt2 Article is of decent quality, and we should post this as the election itself didn't get posted. I would suggest posting alt2, as the first two blurbs don't actually say how he became the president, only that he is now the president. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability. BilboBeggins (talk) 16:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Beryl

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Article: Hurricane Beryl (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hurricane Beryl makes landfall in Grenada, causing extensive damage. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Hurricane Beryl, the earliest recorded Category 5 in the Atlantic Ocean basin, makes landfall in the Caribbean.
News source(s): CNN NBC
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Category 4 hurricane which is still active. Gödel2200 (talk) 21:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I thought about nominating this article. One notable aspect about this hurricane is that it is the earliest Category 4 Category 5 on record in the Atlantic Ocean. If this gets posted, this information might be worth mentioning in the blurb. I have proposed an alt (which might need some tweaks). --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 21:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC) Updated alt. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait/Oppose. Full impacts aren't known yet, however the article body does not yet substantiate the "extensive damage" claim at the moment. The record, while interesting, is very much trivia, and a record for being category 4 is obscure. Cat 5 maybe we can talk, but not a category 4 record. DarkSide830 (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until we know more about the human impact of the storm. It's early in the season, and both this storm and other storms may yet cause more damage. As it stands, I'd oppose, but I don't want to pre-empt things as the situation develops. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait For the most part, breaking specific intensity records don't warrant inclusion here. It might merit inclusion depending on impacts/ TornadoLGS (talk) 02:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait: Per others. At time of writing this, further land impacts are likely to occur in the coming week per the NHC forecast and model guidance. The full extent of this storm's impact has yet to be seen. Comment: Additionally, Beryl has recently attained category 5 intensity, breaking Hurricane Emily's record for earliest cat 5 storm in basin, though it is not expected to impact any land as a cat 5 storm. ArkHyena (talk) 07:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait for impacts to be known, and for potential subsequent landfalls. While it is true that this storm is remarkable from a meteorological perspective, ITN posts based on the real world effects a storm has on populated areas. It is still very possible it could warrant posting in the future, but not right now.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 12:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blurb probably needs updating as its now Cat5 (and the earliest one at that) --Masem (t) 12:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Masem @DarkSide830. I have updated the alt. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait/Oppose A large hurricane in the middle of the ocean that isn't forecasted to make another landfall until it weakens substantially due to a significant amount of sheer in its path isn't quite notable enough for blurbing. Let's see what develops over the next few days. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD/Blurb: Ismail Kadare

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Article: Ismail Kadare (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Albanian novelist Ismail Kadare (pictured) dies in Tirana. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Albanian writer Ismail Kadare (pictured) dies at the age of 88.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Albanian writer Ismail Kadare (pictured) dies in Tirana at the age of 88.
News source(s): Associated Press
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Internationally renowned Albanian novelist. gobonobo + c 09:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Blurb truly a transformative figure and one of the greatest writer of our time and thank god, it has an legacy section that helps understand his impact. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Can’t say I’m familiar with him, but the legacy section defines his elevated significance quite well, and we did blurb Milan Kundera not that long ago. The Kip (contribs) 15:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Blurb on notability Murnane, Munro, McCarthy, Byatt, Oe, Auster, Amis, Kundera, Barth ... Out of all the notable literary deaths of the past two years, Kadare was one of the greatest. There's a bibliography, so you know what that means. Sincerely, Dilettante 16:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So many passing recently, you’re right. I could argue (unsuccessfully of course) that all those you mentioned, except for A. S. Byatt and Martin Amis, should’ve gotten blurbs. Along with Louise Glück, who died last year and should‘ve gotten a blurb. Gerald Murnane (who you mentioned) is still alive I think, but I think he may deserve a blurb, too. I haven’t read anything by him yet. I think only Kundera got a blurb. And Paul Auster didn’t even get his RD posted, though it was ready to go on the last day of the deadline. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 04:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Murnane was a slip on my part. I think I meant Maryse Condé, another blurb-worthy figure IMO. There was a similar burst of deaths just under a decade ago, with Umberto Eco, Marquez, Le Guin, Toni Morrison, etc all within a few years. For my part, I'd support Amis as a prominent public intellectual if not for the fact that it would SNOW. There was a push for an Auster blurb, but it was shut down. Even I opposed that because in the US he's a fairly well-known and unique but, in Europe (especially France), he's just a particularly skilled author of Nouveau romans. His influence was low relative to his popularity.
    Murnane is IMO the second most skilled living novelist, behind Krasznahorkai,so I'd highly recommend him. Sincerely, Dilettante 15:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb after fixing quality issues this is exactly what we should expect for a blurb able RD, an extensive discussion in the article about how they are a great figure. And this is a person I have not heard of but the type of person we should be highlighting at RD. Obviously there's an orange tag and a few smaller quality problems to be fixed before posting. Masem (t) 17:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Major, transformative literary figure. Khuft (talk) 19:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I tried to address the outstanding CN tags in the article. Sourced or put an ISBN for the English translations, but I do not have the time to source the complete works in Albanian. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 20:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Old Man Dies One sentence update about a Tirana hospital, years of ill health and reaching 88. Mundane obituary stuff. Big deal in the literary life, sure, but his death doesn't affect that in any way whatsoever worth adding to his Career section. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    'Old Man Dies' is an obnoxious response to proposed stories of this kind. You're saying more about yourself than about the news by your repeated use of it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Old Man Dies is simply shorthand for the repeatedly shot-down sorts of obituaries that keep popping up around here, as if they're legitimate media events. There's no state funeral, no plausible sidebar potential and generally no reason to stay posted for a week or more alongside earthquakes, sporting celebrations and scientific breakthroughs. Especially where dozens of other notable recent dead cycle along underneath in the meanwhile, for doing the exact same thing. If you want to try and psychoanalyze an author of my depths from a mere quip, "be my guest", but you're going to get a lot wrong. I suppose I should say I was wrong about an RD not affecting literary life, because several non-readers here seem to suddenly think Kadare's someone worth thinking about reading. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How do you know whether or not someone's a non-reader? Most don't have a glaring userbox saying This user does not read books. Sincerely, Dilettante 16:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Influential in his field (kinda think Munro should’ve been blurbed too but oh well). Article could be updated a bit better to reflect his death / reactions. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support Blurb - I'm not an expert, but the article seems to support well, with citations, the proposition that he was a genuinely outstanding figure in the literary world. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb. I find it dubious that a person whom not many know is blurbed just because his peers praised him, while many people whom everyone knows, like Donald Sutherland, Christopher Plummer, Kirk Douglas and Olivia de Havilland, Cormac Maccarthy, Vangelis, to a lesser extent William Hurt, Angela Lanesbury, Harry Bellafonte.
He hasn't even got a Nobel Prize, we didn't blurb a great many guys who had one.
I don't think he is that transformative, I don't know his books, they weren't adapted to the screen notably.
I also wouldn't say his influence in Europe is large. BilboBeggins (talk) 16:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) New Indian Criminal Code comes into effect

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Consensus to post unlikely to develop. Natg 19 (talk) 17:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ New Criminal Code Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (BNS) comes into effect from 1 July 2024 to replace the Indian Penal Code (IPC), which dated back to the period of British India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Three criminal laws namely Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita (BNS), Bharatiya Nagarik Suraksha Sanhita (BNSS), and Bharatiya Sakshya Adhiniyam (BSA) comes into effect replacing Indian Penal Code (IPC), Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC), and Indian Evidence Act (IEA), respectively.
News source(s): The Hindu ndtv.com The Times of India
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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Closed) Sam Mostyn as new Governor-General of Australia

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Consensus to post unlikely to develop. The Kip (contribs) 15:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Sam Mostyn (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Businesswoman Sam Mostyn (pictured) succeeds David Hurley as Governor-General of Australia. (Post)
News source(s): news.com.au ABC News
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Businesswoman, climate change and gender equality activist and former AFL commissioner who has a medal named after her nominated to the highest office held by an Australian. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 02:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Governor-Generals are just ceremonial roles. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Non-oppose but I will note that we didn't post previous changes of viceroy/reine in Commonwealth realms This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The governor-general is mainly a ceremonial role, as mentioned by Ad Orientem --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:46, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) United States President granted criminal immunity

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Consensus to post unlikely to develop. FunIsOptional (talk) (use ping please) 18:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Trump v. United States (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Supreme Court grants the President of the United States full immunity for official actions taken in Trump v. United States. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Trump v. United States, the United States Supreme Court rules that former presidents are immune from criminal prosecutions of official acts.
News source(s): Supreme Court CBS News The Hill
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  • Oppose — This is a standard and expected ruling that has no personal significance to the country, unlike Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. Totally irrelevant for ITN. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose not suitable for the ITN and the main page. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose because it's an ongoing event as part of a larger legal process (Trump indictments) and wasn't a conviction or acquittal like the New York trial. It's not suitable for ITN. JohnAdams1800TALK 15:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support because of the immense significance of this decision. ITN has had an anti-US bias that prevents most posters on here from recognizing the obvious importance of extremely significant news stories for far too long, and the opposition expressed above to one of the most noteworthy Supreme Court decisions in the lifetime of anyone reading this is an exceptionally good illustration of that. IntoThinAir (talk) 16:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose both the topic and the blurb. The decision is more nuanced than described in the blurb. And ElijahPepe is correct that this is not a "major upset" (to use sports jargon). EvergreenFir (talk) 16:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose since this goes back to lower courts to rule what actions are or aren't immune now, which most pundits I've seen will still leave some of the table. If anything, the three decisions to nuke the administrative state (Jarsky, Loper Bright, and corner Post) are actually far more impactful but even then not ITN worthy material. Masem (t) 17:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

June 30

June 30, 2024 (2024-06-30) (Sunday)

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RD: Hugh Aldons

Article: Hugh Aldons (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Sunday Observer
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan sportsman who has played field hockey. rugby union and cricket for Sri Lanka. Abishe (talk) 02:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support IMO meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per PoP but an infobox would be nice. Bremps... 23:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Nadim Mostafa

Article: Nadim Mostafa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Financial Express
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Bangladeshi BNP politician. Exact DOB needs to be nailed down. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 18:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the article seems to rely heavily on just one news website, needs other sources than that site. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD/Blurb: R. Sampanthan

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Article: R. Sampanthan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Sri Lankan Politician R. Sampanthan (pictured) whose been in the Parliament for 6 terms (1977, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2015, 2020); and as the opposition leader for a term had passed away. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Sri Lankan Politician R. Sampanthan (pictured) whose been in the Parliament for 6 terms with 5 consecutive terms; and as the opposition leader for a term had passed away.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Sri Lankan Politician R. Sampanthan (pictured) whose been in the Parliament for 6 terms with 5 consecutive terms (1977, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2015, 2020); and as the opposition leader for a term had passed away.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Former Sri Lankan opposition leader R. Sampanthan dies at 91.
News source(s): The Hindu, BBC, Newswire
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan politician. Been in the parliament for 6 terms, and as opposition leader for 1 term. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blurb is a bit much for a Leader of the Opposition. Bremps... 02:47, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He is one of the most important political figures in the country. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, was. So far, his article doesn't seem to reflect that he was a supposedly transformative figure, but it might just be due to omissions. Bremps... 03:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb, leading the opposition in parliament for a term isn't really blurb-worthy. If a blurb has to be chosen, altblurb 3 is the most concise and fluff-free. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 03:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Nowhere close to the expected type of coverage/content to describe being a "great figure" in Sri Lanka politics. Perhaps important being the opposition leader, but that doesn't equate to "great". --Masem (t) 03:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD The prose and citations are there for an RD mention; the very few uncited statements are not controversial. A blurb is obviously not going to happen and is not worth discussing. -- Kicking222 (talk) 08:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD article is good enough to be posted in the RD, but being an leader of opposition is not a blurb worthy position. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb - I don't think we'd generally consider a blurb for a politician who had never actually led a nation or government from any country. I wouldn't, at least. Politics is an important field, as I often say, but this isn't being at the top of it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Blurb is out of the question but support RD. Let's focus on article quality from here on out. Bremps... 03:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not a political figure that we blurb. BilboBeggins (talk) 16:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 29

June 29, 2024 (2024-06-29) (Saturday)

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Mauritanian presidential election

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Article: 2024 Mauritanian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Mohamed Ould Ghazouani (pictured) is reelected in the Mauritanian presidential election. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Technically it isn't, as ITNELECTIONS only lists changes in the holder of office as ITNR, whereas this is a reelection. However, it should be ITNR, and there is ongoing dicsussion on how we should amend ITNELECTIONS. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Borno State bombings

Article: 2024 Borno State bombings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 30 people were killed and over 100 injured in suicide bombings in Borno State, Nigeria. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times Vanguard
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Article will need work. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now Who, what, where, when, why and how? What, where, when and how are answered, leaving who and why (though we have a pretty good guess). Ping me if both are answered, if so, I'll support this being posted as this is a major attack. Bremps... 02:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Pål Enger

Article: Pål Enger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NRK, Dagbladet
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Article updated
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Norwegian footballer and art thief (stole the The Scream!). Will not be posted in current state, needs lots of citations if anyone wants to tackle. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 18:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Princess Lalla Latifa Amahzoune

Article: Lalla Latifa Amahzoune (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): APA News
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Article updated
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princess widow of King Hassan II, mother of the current King of Morocco Mohammed VI. Article is short (she had a very discreet role and it seems that little is known about her), but almost ready. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup final

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Article: 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cricket, India win the T20 World Cup by defeating South Africa in the final (player of the final Virat Kohli pictured). (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera The Washington Post
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Article updated
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14.139.34.101 (talk) 18:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Licensing info for the image on the page for the cup is a bit fishy. Bremps... 05:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 28

June 28, 2024 (2024-06-28) (Friday)

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RD: Lando Bartolini

Article: Lando Bartolini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Corriere del Ticino (in Italian)
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Italian tenor of international fame, had a stub of an article with 2 tags. There's still more in Italian if someone has the time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Mohamed Osman Jawari

Article: Mohamed Osman Jawari (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Garowe Online
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Article updated
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Speaker of the Federal Parliament of Somalia and briefly acting President of Somalia --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 05:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please post, @Admins willing to post ITN: Bremps... 18:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Orlando Cepeda

Article: Orlando Cepeda (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo! Sports
Credits:

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Natg 19 (talk) 03:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support: Death is reliably sourced. Article is reasonably complete and well-referenced, with no major issues apparent, tagged, or mentioned on the talk page. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not ready, I CN tagged some the areas needing an inline citation -- usually when there was not a source after a couple of sentences. I do not doubt they are the same citations used elsewhere in the same section, but lots of factual claims being made without an inline follow up. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 05:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Mongolian parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Mongolian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The ruling MPP party secures a slim majority in the 2024 Mongolian parliamentary election. (Post)
News source(s): The Associated Press
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Article has a few outstanding tags. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scu ba, see the end of the first and second paragraphs of the background section. The second paragraph is the one with no sources. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see it now, looks like it was initially added in the .ru version which was then copied and translated to the .en version 01:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC) Scu ba (talk) 01:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 27

June 27, 2024 (2024-06-27) (Thursday)

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RD: Martin Mull

Article: Martin Mull (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times, Variety, Associated Press, NPR
Credits:

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Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:07, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Landry Nguémo

Article: Landry Nguémo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, L'Équipe, Goal.com, The Scotsman
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former footballer who represented Cameroon at senior international level, and played for Nancy, Celtic and Bordeaux, among other clubs. Unfortunately, the article is still in poor shape, and might use some more citations, but it's definitely nothing "unfixable". Oltrepier (talk) 19:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 26

June 26, 2024 (2024-06-26) (Wednesday)

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RD: Kinky Friedman

Article: Kinky Friedman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Texas Tribune, Rolling Stone
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American musician, satirist, and politician. Has orange banner, needs some more sources. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose discography and Writing career sections are almost entirely unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 12:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose overreliance on one and two sentence paragraphs. Also what PrinceofPunjab said. Bremps... 06:02, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sergei Berezin

Article: Sergei Berezin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Toronto Sun, CBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Russian professional ice hockey player. Pretty good shape. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support looks alright to me and before anyone say that Career statistics section is unsourced, the source is in the external link section. PrinceofPunjabTALK 12:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The infobox and stats table indicate that the subject represented his country on multiple occasions, but the prose lack materials on his international career. This gap in coverage needs to be filled. --PFHLai (talk) 15:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: Jackie Clarkson

Article: Jackie Clarkson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NOLA
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Article updated
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American politician: Louisiana House of Representatives and New Orleans City Council. Could do with a few more citations. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 16:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait some paragraphs end without any footnotes.PrinceofPunjabTALK 12:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PrinceofPunjab, take a look now. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 06:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support ready now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Bolivian coup attempt

Articles: 2024 Bolivian coup d'état attempt (talk · history · tag) and Juan José Zúñiga (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Bolivia, an army under the command of Juan José Zúñiga storms the presidential palace in an attempted coup. (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg , BBC
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Nominator's comments: Fresh news story, Bolivia appears to have underwent a coup attempt from a local General. — Knightoftheswords 20:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support on notability, but Zúñiga's article is still a one-sentence stub for now. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is already a little bit longer now, although it can still very much be improved. Given the importance and recency of the situation, it should be okay for posting. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, I wonder where this one goes. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - it has a dozenWP:RS citations now. It's still a work in progress, but it's only a matter of time before this gets to the front page. A short amount of time, if you ask me. Kire1975 (talk) 21:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, notable and the article seems good Personisinsterest (talk) 22:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The long term historical record may be, but since the CIA stopped doing that sort of thing, they are rare in South America now too. HiLo48 (talk) 06:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support on notability coups a rare thing nowadays Kasperquickly (talk) 00:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not really. Bremps... 19:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not to bludgeon my point, but there were two coups in 2022, one foiled plot in 2023, another foiled one in 2024, and another brewing on the horizon in Burkina Faso alone. Not to mention Niger, Tunisia, Chad, etc. There's a coup epidemic. Bremps... 21:48, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong continent. HiLo48 (talk) 06:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Kasperquickly should have specified that they meant only South American coups, then. They spoke about coups generally. Bremps... 07:49, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bakhyt Kenjeev

Article: Bakhyt Kenjeev (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Meduza
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A renowned Kazakh-born Russian poet, a founding member of the "Moscow Time" group of Soviet underground poets. Recipient of several notable Russian literary prizes, said to have been nominated for the Nobel prize.

(Closed) ICC issues arrest warrants for Russia's Shoigu and Gerasimov

Consensus to post is unlikely to develop.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The ICC has issued arrest warrants for the Russian army chief and former defense minister for war crimes in Ukraine. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, VOA, NY Times
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Ainty Painty (talk) 06:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - total of one sentence in the entire bolded article referencing the news item. Not to get WP:CRYSTALBALL, but this is a symbolic move that likely will not have many consequences, similar to Putin's arrest warrant (other than restricting travel). In particular, the NYT article states, "That makes it highly unlikely that Mr. Shoigu and General Gerasimov will be taken into custody in the foreseeable future". Also covered by the Ongoing section; could be considered part of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Finally, another article for the arrest warrants does not yet exist (as exists at International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova), and including that article in the blurb, or at least mentioning the subjects of the warrants, would be more appropriate. Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The last time ITN was fooled into posting something like this, the most significant consequence was Main Page readers having to look at Putin smiling at them for an unreasonably (and perhaps uncomfortably) long time; I don't know what these guys look like, but I'm pretty anyone smiling in an official portrait is the entirely wrong look for this harmless-yet-ill-intended sort of news. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Putin was one thing as a sitting head of state, this is comparatively far less important. The Kip (contribs) 06:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Putin story was notable as it was the head of the state but Army chief is not that notable. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - As PrinceOfPunjab says, Putin was worth posting as head of state, but this is a subsidiary matter and not suitable for ITN. It very much falls under Ongoing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) 2024 NEET controversy

Consensus to post will not develop. Stephen 02:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2024 NEET controversy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Outrage and protests erupt in India regarding irregularities surrounding the results of the National Eligibility-cum-Entrance Test (NEET) (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Needs better blurb. Rushtheeditor(talk) 00:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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June 25

June 25, 2024 (2024-06-25) (Tuesday)

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RD: José Antonio Urtiaga

Article: José Antonio Urtiaga (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Super Deporte
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Spanish footballer with 150 La Liga games for three big teams and a European final goal astonishingly didn't have an English page in his lifetime. The page covers aspects of his career, though I suppose more about his life would come from the El Diario Vasco source that is paywalled. All references to numbers and statistics are sourced from BDFutbol in the external links, though I can inline that if needs be. Unknown Temptation (talk) 11:42, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bill Cobbs

Article: Bill Cobbs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
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Article needs to be improved before posting. Staraction (talk | contribs) 19:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose orange tag and is in need of more sourcing. PrinceofPunjabTALK 12:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chang'e 6 return

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The lunar landing site imaged by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter
Article: Chang'e 6 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The China National Space Administration mission Chang'e 6 successfully returns to Earth with rock samples from the far side of the Moon (lunar landing site pictured). (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

We did post when it arrived at the moon, and per ITNR, its successful return is also there. Unfortunately, I don't know how much more than a sentence update (both lede and body) can be made here, given that it is China and news from there tends to be iffy. There definitely needs to be a better update before posting. --Masem (t) 04:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support They literally got a moon rock that’s pretty important Personisinsterest (talk) 10:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Come on, first far-side moon rocks. Bremps... 17:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Sika Anoa‘i

Article: Sika Anoaʻi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today, WWE
Credits:

Article updated
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American Samoan professional wrestler. WWE Hall of Fame. Needs some more citations (I have added some tags and the banner), but it seems people are updating the article. If you know who should be considered an updater, please add to nom. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Kenya protests

Article: Kenya Finance Bill protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nineteen people are killed and dozens are injured as protesters storm the Parliament Buildings in Kenya (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Nineteen people are killed and at least 160 are injured as protesters attack the Parliament Buildings in Kenya.
News source(s): CNN
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Article needs a significant rewrite. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 15:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support on notability. BilboBeggins (talk) 17:47, 25 June 2024 (UTC) Highlighted vote. Bremps... 22:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best to bold that so no one overlooks it. Bremps... 22:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb on basis of notability, but some expansion would be needed. A national parliament of a major African nation being set on fire is certainly noteworthy. International newspapers seem to be increasing their coverage of the event, so hopefully there will soon be more info to beef up the article.Khuft (talk) 21:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability: there's some things that still need citations though.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless the rioters/protestors are killing their own the security forces are behind the deaths. If/when confirmation comes, we should add that to the blurb instead of relying on passive voice. Bremps... 22:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mohamed Arif

Article: Mohamed Arif (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Edition
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Article updated
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Maldivian footballer. Death announced 25 Jun 2024. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 15:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Julian Assange Released

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Article: Julian Assange (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Julian Assange agrees to a US plea bargain that would allow for his immediate release. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is released from prison as part of a U.S. plea bargain.
News source(s): CNN
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Article updated

Aaron Liu (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technically he has already gotten out. He was released from the British prison on Monday afternoon and he's now going to the Northern Mariana Islands to plead guilty and get sentenced to time served. That hearing is at 7 p.m. Eastern Time on Tuesday, less than 24 hours from now, which could be a good time to post a blurb. Johndavies837 (talk) 01:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That seems like a reasonable plan. Would temporarily atopping this section until that time be unusual, or would just removing it for now be preferred? Aaron Liu (talk) 02:12, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is probably unnecessary, as the discussion would likely go on for that long in any case. BD2412 T 02:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added an alt blurb which is accurate even today as he was already released from the British prison, but the best time to post it would be when the U.S. judge actually approves the deal. And since that's supposed to happen within 24 hours, it should work out well. Johndavies837 (talk) 02:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well that's my bad. The blurb wording had be thinking otherwise. Probably should have taken a look for myself then. Thanks for the correction, I will strike my oppose and make it a support. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the chains of government have been broken Lukt64 (talk) 02:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's neither a credible representation of how this happened, nor a meaningful reason to promote this story to the front page. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aaron Liu (talk) 17:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support but wait till judge approves it. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb as it more accurately describes what is happening. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kasperquickly does seem to be having some difficulty telling countries apart - see below for where he seems to be confused between the USA, Iraq, and Russia. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How would that make event more notable? BilboBeggins (talk) 17:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle as a very significant event. However I have no opinions on the timing of posting given what Andrew & Red-tailed hawk said. Too complicated for me to decide on that. S5A-0043Talk 10:11, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait (lean support) This is a positive development overall, but let's wait until he's actually released and makes a public statement since it's possible that there is the possibility of the deal falling apart or another State indicting him. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Pleads guilty and has agreed to some dubious terms as part of his release isn't that notable or historic. In addition that the linked article is a dumpster fire, the chilling effect of his conviction (and aforementioned plea deal terms) should have its own article and subsequently blurbed more than anything else.

Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why should the aftermath have its own article? That's like splitting out Collapse of Smile again. I also don't see how that makes the article a dumpster fire, nor why you claim both that the terms aren't notable or historic and that the repercussions are apparently big enough to have their own article at the same time. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed on the contradiction. I'm forecasting, but I still believe the main article is too broad for ITN and if we were to blurb this event it should only be because it's significance is such that it would stand alone on it's own (which it might, and is partially what I'm arguing for here). My apologies if that is confusing.
    This is also a moot argument, consensus appears to have been reached and it'll likely be posted shortly. Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose not that notable. Personisinsterest (talk) 12:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Saying that doesn't make it true. I'd be impressed to see even one reliable source that's independent of Assange's fan-club that claims such a thing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Namely, which sources would you want to claim that? Would you also want these sources to say that they're sorry they ignored his situation for the past decade and decided to side with state power or do you also want them to say that Wikileaks did more for their jobs than they did themselves? Oneequalsequalsone (talk · contribs) 16:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think one can fairly say the press has ignored Assange's situation for a decade. It's been covered with reasonable regularity here in the UK. But I also don't think much of "this is a major event in western history - but all possible sources are in the pocket of the state and won't say so". It's definitely in the news - it's a pretty big story - but I don't feel it's of the towering importance people are making it out to be. It's a relatively quiet end to the whole business. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oneequalsequalsone, this makes it sound like your !vote is based on your personal political beliefs, which generally doesn't go very well on Wikipedia. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All humans have a bias in one way or another. Some feel baseball and ice hockey are important enough to be the top page news, others feel like the end of a decade old saga of the persecution of a reporter that dared to expose violations of human rights and civil liberties by various governments is more important Oneequalsequalsone (talk · contribs) 21:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A major event in the worldwide history of the freedom of the press? How so? He's taken a plea bargain and is being released. No new precedent is established, no great publication is made. This just doesn't have the effect that you're claiming it does. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Definitely noteworthy. Alexysun (talk) 17:24, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It has been going on for almost 15 years, and from time to time it reoccured in the news. So this is very appropriate to include this In the news section. BilboBeggins (talk) 17:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb, a major headline all over the world, and a continuing story, since the news will certainly continue to cover his coming and going from the CNMI, touchdown in Australia, and any comments he may have after that. This also raises the stakes for some kind of deal with Snowden, and other possible ramifications. BD2412 T 19:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment and oppose — This can now be properly discussed. Per Ad Orientem, I do not see how this is a major conclusion to the Assange saga. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 23:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support never thought i’d see this day happen. Good luck Assange Ion.want.uu (talk) 22:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's official - The judge sentenced him to time served and said he'll leave the court as a "free man" (Source 1, Source 2) Johndavies837 (talk) 02:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WaPo may be a better source. He'll also have Wikileaks destroy the Manning information. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • NYT argues that this could set a precedent for prosecuting journalists.

    The agreement means that for the first time in American history, gathering and publishing information the government considers secret has been successfully treated as a crime. This new precedent will send a threatening message to national security journalists, who may be chilled in how aggressively they do their jobs because they will see a greater risk of prosecution.

    But its reach is also limited, dodging a bigger threat. Because Mr. Assange agreed to a deal, he will not challenge the legitimacy of applying the Espionage Act to his actions. The outcome, then, averts the risk that the case might lead to a definitive Supreme Court ruling blessing prosecutors’ narrow interpretation of First Amendment press freedoms.

    Will try and add to article soon. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support as this has probably been the longest running case about a cornerstone of democracy in my lifetime. Wikipedia was able to move a step closer to its goal of making the sum of human knowledge accessible due to Assange's efforts. All readers should be invited to ponder how they feel about his plea and release. Connor Behan (talk) 02:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait Article has some serious(?) citation overkill issues. That's not a Hard Wait, mind you. But it is something for at least one of you fixers to think about fixing, before or after it's posted (and possibly pictured). InedibleHulk (talk) 02:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No amount of findings that he has endured torture are enough for some people. Connor Behan (talk) 14:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We are here to showcase quality articles and writing on current, analyzed events. We are not here to decide whether people have endured our own arbitrary standard of torture that we have not experienced. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While the definition of torture is not arbitrary, we are indeed not here to adjudicate that. What we are here to do is point out that !votes are not votes. I.e. that they count for less when they include claims that reliable sources reveal to be false or misleading. Connor Behan (talk) 21:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
nor treated unduly harshly by the US government; I mean the CIA was actively trying to assassinate him as recently as 2017 [1]. Curbon7 (talk) 22:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jeepers, this is 60s-style stuff. Bremps... 17:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are important global issues arising from the case, some of which affect us as Wikipedia editors directly. The most important is that the United States insists that its laws apply world-wide, even to foreign citizens who have never set foot in the United States. This is especially problematic in the the US ranks lower than any than any other Western country on the World Press Freedom Index. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It smokes Mexico, soundly beats Greece and narrowly outclasses Liberia (unless you're of the opinion that anywhere less "free" than the U.S. isn't "West enough"). InedibleHulk (talk) 18:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia's own readership levels are not a reliable news source. Please stop citing them in these sorts of discussions. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:28, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lord Kelvin is featured on the main page today. The article quotes his maxim that "when you can measure what you are speaking about and express it in numbers you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind..." Andrew🐉(talk) 21:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, alt-blurb. It's a pretty significant event, with Assange being able to come out and meet friends/family etc after serving over five years in prison. This isn't some event where there is lots of news on a day then nothing the next.[2][3] — AP 499D25 (talk) 13:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support alt-blurb - I think the nominator here, Aaron Liu, lays out a good case that this latest development in the Julian Assange/Wikileaks story is deserving of ITN/blurb level status. The relevant article continues to be (for the most part) reliability updated. - 14:17, 26 June 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trauma Novitiate (talk • contribs)
  • Marking as Ready Full disclosure: I am opposed to this nomination. However being objective, the discussion has been open long enough and there is a solid consensus in favor of posting. I found two CN tags on an otherwise solidly sourced article, neither of which are enough IMO to stop posting. This is good to go. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AO, I appreciate your input here. I am also opposed to the nomination, but I share your appraisal that it's both well-supported and of suitable quality. Thank you for being measured and constructive. GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:45, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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