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Authority Control
editHi. The NARA link needs to be amended so that it can determine if it should link to a person (ExternalPersonIdSearch?id) or a file (ExternalIdSearch?id). There is also an organisations search, although not sure if this wil be used. - Digipoke (talk) 13:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Done I've tried to add other options as well (organisations, subjects and locations) based on the approach NARA uses. It seems to work when I've experimented with the links. (Author:Ronald Reagan links to the NARA catalogue, for example). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 13:15, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yip, seems to work nicely. Thanks! - Digipoke (talk) 14:31, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Southern Historical Society Papers VOL. 2
editAdam,
Are you going to "transclude", or do whatever you do to SHSP vol.2 as you did with SHSP vol.1? Volume two only needs a few complicated pages done (that I don't know how to do) to be finished. —William Maury Morris II Talk 18:30, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, sorry about that. I'll start it soon. I'm afraid I was not able to much of anything on Wikisource for the last month. This was mostly due to Christmas combined with some smaller things that came up. I had originally planned to do this, and some other Wikisource things, over the period. I hope to get on with all of it as soon as I can. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 19:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Adam, Thank you for the positive reply and don't be concerned about what you "didn't get done" as there are much more serious things in life. My precious wife had a stroke while asleep a couple of days ago and is in the hospital now. She is weakening and I don't know if I can handle losing her. When that sort of thing happens *everything* else is just "fluff" in the wind. -- Maury (—William Maury Morris II Talk 20:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to hear that. I hope everything works out well. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Adam, you do an amazing amount of work! (And my wife is getting a lot stronger. She is recovering very fast. Thank you for your statement and caring). —William Maury Morris II Talk 08:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Southern Historical Society Papers question & options
editAdamBMorgan, what am I supposed to do with a spacing that breaks up a paragraph somewhere near or on the bottom of the page I am editing? I used the < br > at the very bottom and that works well but is there something else I am supposed to use instead of < br >?
Kindest Regards, Maury (—William Maury Morris II Talk 02:07, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- As standard, the {{nop}} template tells the computer to insert a paragraph break. It isn't very different from using a break (<br>) in effect. Either stops the text flowing between pages and forming one big paragraph. (In theory, I imagine that if there was ever a need to change the way paragraph breaks behave, changing the template would change all the page breaks in one go.) - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Converting these old works is a wonderful thing. Now people who are blind can hear them with a screen reader. My wife is blind. She went blind at age 17 so I do understand the value of what we do with these books. Her screen reader (JAWS) is excellent and reads the text almost perfectly and it doesn't sound so much like a computer voice. My wife is out of the hospital now from her stroke and is healing to where she will be back at work in a week. I thank you for all of your help, Adam. —William Maury Morris II Talk 18:38, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- That's great news about your wife's recovery. RE: Converting works, I agree. I do really like that we are making texts available to everyone. Lots of things could remain effectively locked away or somehow inaccessible without sites like Wikisource (and Project Gutenberg et al). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 02:30, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- 1. Thank you, Adam. She is very precious to me. 2. Making the texts available to the blind is the main reason I work on these projects. 3. At some point it would be good to convert these works to compressed speech files to download as with Libravox where people read texts. My wife uses "JAWS" as a screen reader but I expect not all people can but a $1,000 program screen reader. 4. At another point perhaps we can place the compressed speech files on cassettes. 5. The Department of the Blind would probably help with that. 6. My wife listens to audiobooks covering all topics. She has finished covering all of the U.S. presidents that the Dept of the Blind have so in the many years of hearing those I understand their value. The modern machines use a device like a "thumb drive" aka "flash card" and is compact and will hold a battery charge over 20 hours plus it is portable. That's great with headphones on a long plane flight. 7. Somehow wikiSource needs to be advertized more. There is great value here but when I mention wikiPedia to people they at least have heard of it if not contribute to it. But when I mention wikiSource people do not seem to know what I am talking about. I was able to get a bilingual to join wikiSource. We have lots of great opportunities to make this a better world for everyone and in many formats. The deaf can see and the blind can hear. It's wonderful! —William Maury Morris II Talk 07:37, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Since September 2011 no featured texts have been nominated...
editHello Adam,
can a text become featured with only two "support"s? I think it's so, according to guidelines. I'd like to have Picturesque New Guinea as featured for February. Soon, Erasmo Barresi (talk) 17:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- I almost forgot it was nearly February; thanks for reminding me about this. There is normally more of a discussion about featured text candidates but two supports and no opposition is technically sufficient. I have not done this directly before but I have started to set up Picturesque New Guinea for February's featured text. I'll ask Billinghurst to have a look at it as well as he has more experience with featured texts. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 20:43, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
TWP Author page creations
editThanks for picking up some of my slack with these. They can be very tedious! Have a good one, Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:44, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Template:Img float center version
editI see you did some work on this a year or so ago - is it stable, and if so would it be OK to document it? I'm interested in it as a way to confine the caption under an image to the same width as the image.--Laverock ( Talk ) 10:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, it's stable. I thought there was documentation but apparently I was wrong; I've added some now. Note that text won't wrap around a centre-aligned image in the way it wraps around left/right-aligned images. I'm not sure if that is a problem for you or not. It will, however, limit the caption to the width of the image. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 13:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Excellent!
editAdam, you do excellent work. Even with a complicated table of contents you excel to where a mess becomes something so neat that it becomes perfect. —William Maury Morris II Talk 01:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
SHSP 52 volumes in 2012
editAdam, I checked moments ago and the 52 volumes (hardcover reprints) after many years are still selling for $2,200. So, whatever is done with those volumes (by whomever) that you placed on WS is of good value to WS —William Maury Morris II Talk 11:59, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
SHSP TOCs and index
editAdam, in all that you have stated on my talk page under this topic was there anything you would prefer that I do or not do? I absolutely do agree with what you are doing. The both of us are alike in at least one thing and that is we make adventure out of what is already established history when we can. I too dislike mere initials and always have for many reasons. I applaud the concept of Author pages and like to enhance those as much as possible. There is no book that does this with these 52 volumes of history. The Authors pages with people like "Joseph Jacobs appears to have been one of the original shareholders in Coca-Cola and the first person to sell it to the public. Then there is Charles Browne Fleet, who is a bit confusing (and even the full name may not be correct, although I think I'm right), but may also have been the inventor of ChapStick" and Dr. Crawford W. Long, the discoverer of the use of ether as an anesthetic—one of the greatest boons ever conferred on humanity alr fasinating to find and learn about. Just think of all of what and who could-have been discoverers on both sides that were killed in that war. It boggles the imagination. Even now imagine no Colas nor anesthetics had those men been killed in the war. But back to the present, let me know if you want me to do something or not do something and I will gladly follow your lead in all of this. The 2,200 dollars value in hardcopy volumes is not anything I have ever really cared about. I was just a bit surprised when I learned Broadfoot was still selling them when searchable CDs and DVDs are now available. I think Broadfoot is a wise and great man because he took the old Official Records and then asked everyone who owned old articles that should be with the original Washington DC Official Records to please send them, or copies to him, and he added a lot of articles to the Offical Records that had been left out. It is history once omitted or lost or never included that were placed into volumes. I know the man somewhat and others in the printing business. I myself worked out a situation with N. Black of Guild Press of Indiana where volumes of ascii that I did were placed on searchable CD long ago and carries my "Note" with my name added to those soldiers of so long ago. It is wonderful seeing these people in the SHSP volumes come to life once again and the Author pages are all the more superb! They in themselves alone provide humanity with something that has never existed and greatly in part because the initials were sought out and the names, plus works by the people were found and organized on WikiSource. I feel ecstatic about it. WikiSource is the perfect creation that long ago I dreamed of when wanting books that were inaccessible and I could not get except for a few through inter-library loan and they were very few at a time. There was no Wiki area around in those old days. Wiki areas are a "God-send" to all humanity for all time. Respectfully, —William Maury Morris II Talk 00:20, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's just intended as information to keep you updated. There's nothing I'm doing that should directly affect what you are doing, or vice versa. If you do spot an erroneous article title or author name, feel free to correct it. Otherwise, everything continues as normal. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 18:16, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Authors in the SHSPapers
edit- Adam, would you please place this on WS, [1]The author is on Dr. Hunter McGuire for whom McGuire Hospital in Richmond, Virginia is named. His full name and title is Rev. Holmes Hunter McGuire and he was Stonewall Jackson's top medical staff member at the time Jackson was mortally wounded. Then we can add him to our Author's list on WS. He has articles in the SHSP. It is only 200 pages in length. —William Maury Morris II Talk 21:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- WP article [[2]] on Dr. McGuire —William Maury Morris II Talk 21:44, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- Adam, I have an image of Author:George Llewellyn Christian on his Author page that you created because he overlaps into the SHSP. However, I am not used to the (new for me) ((author: &c format so it needs a slight bit of change. Would you be so kind as to fix it? This image is the only one of the man on wiki areas (I feel sure) aside from also using in the book above. This image and no information about this soldier/author/Judge is on WP. —William Maury Morris II Talk 08:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Adam, nevermind re: above. I kept blundering until I blundered right.—William Maury Morris II Talk 09:00, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
SHSP missing volumes
editAdam, have you any idea as to why companies like Google and MSN (MicroSoftNetworks), and others, have not placed the Southern Historical Society Papers volumes 5, 7, 9, 10, 11+ on archives.org? They certainly must be able to find those volumes. Many years ago my wife bought me the full hard-copy set of 52 volumes for $300. Certainly libraries must have copies companies can access. —William Maury Morris II Talk 13:15, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- No, I expected to find more somewhere on the internet but no luck so far. Most probably, the libraries these organisations used as sources were also missing those volumes. Their age may make some rarer than others, although they must be on a shelf somewhere or the reprints would have been impossible. Location might be another issue. I don't know how it was distributed but the SHSP were printed in Virginia. The Internet Archive and Google are in California while Microsoft is in Seattle; this might affect the libraries to which they have easiest access. There are probably lots of books still not scanned; it might just take time for them to get to a Library with the right stock. Alternatively, it's possible the Wikimedia DC chapter may be able to help do something about the missing volumes in the future (I think they have some scanning projects planned). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 13:59, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- INSERT: Adam, the SHSP missing volumes were reprinted for some reason. For example, I hold volume 5 in my hand and in looking at it I see the standard volumes we have have worked with. The bottom shows the familiar Southern Historical Society Papers &c., &c.. Jan - June/ Rich. V. Rev. J WM JONES/ Secretary Southern Historical Society/ 1878 —— Below that is this, KRAUS REPRINT CO. MILLWOOD, NEW YORK 1977. Therefore I am guessing the missing reprint volumes we don't have on WS were not uploaded to Archives.com because of the "1977 reprints." However, I know that any original material can still be used except the introduction of anything new such as a preface that is dated 1977, and I have seen none in the missing volumes. I know also we should be able to use these volumes as long as we leave anything out that mentions "Kraus Reprint..1977" These volumes at not like Microsoft and Google uploads where every page carries those company names. So, what do you think of all this? Below is something I think you should look at. It is about a prolific author, Rev. Horace Edwin Hayden, who is shown many times for many works I have not yet linked to on Archives.com. But below you can see where I was working and just listed SHSP volumes that we do not have on WS. There is one very good article by him that I have edited on WS but the other articles are among the WS:SHSP missing volumes which I do own. Please leave feedback on your thoughts in all of this.
- Respectfully, Maury <—William Maury Morris II Talk 01:52, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, as long as there are no significant changes, the reprints would also be in the public domain (except, of course, things like the prefaces as you say). Any Kraus copyright statements or other credits won't matter if the contents of the pages themselves are not copyrightable. If waiting and hoping for scans to appear is getting in the way of the project, you could scan your own copies of the Papers to fill the gap. (However, I found scanning more work than I expected and I was only tried it with magazines.) Alternatively, you could transcribe the specific articles, or even all of the articles, directly from the volumes onto Wikisource (just remember the {{textinfo}} template on the talk page). That might also be a lot of work but it is something you could do immediately. If the scans are made available later, your version can be merged into them.
- As a long shot, you could try to find someone else willing to scan them. I don't know how you would go about doing this but maybe one of the organisations mentioned here (the University of Virginia, a Historical Society and/or Wikimedia DC) could help. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- The University of Virginia has all of the volumes but they are reprints from Tom Broadfoot (S.C.) The binding is very flexible and the quality superb. I believe U.Va. also has the older volumes. I know the Albemarle County Historical Society has some old volumes because it was there I sought them out after learning of the Southern Historical Society from Maj Gen D H Maury's book, "Recollections..." The librarians did not know what I was asking but I showed them Dabney's book and I was allowed to search for the old volumes in a back room of the Albemarle County Historical Society courtesy of Margaret Bryant. This was the -start- of reprinting those volumes plus placing them on searchable CDs by myself and others working through Guild Press of Indiana. Many universities also have the searchable CDs. Years after my labors, I went into Alderman Library of U.Va. for something and I saw an area where several people were using computers and the SHSP-CDs. I pushed long and hard to make these volumes known and the people brought back to life again. Only part of that was due to family reasons. I was aware many people would benefit in searching for their ancestry that the uncivil war scattered as seeds to the 4 winds. There are also Indices. Tom Broadfoot Publishing (S.C.) took 2 volumes of these and printed three new volumes with additional material. I purchased Tom's 3 indices for $150. but the older 2 vols. still exist. I have worked with these materials for almost 20 years now although I never expected that! Worse comes to worse, I can scan the volumes I have but meantime I will work with the materials we already have. Hopefully some university will have a student scan the other volumes as part of a project as David Seaman of Oxford brought to U.Va. did with myself and others using different materials -- usually the "classics". —William Maury Morris II Talk 14:24, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Dabney Herndon Maury obituary
editIn reference to who wrote Dabney's obituary I can only state that much of what I see stated comes from his memoirs, Recollection of a Virginian in the Mexican, Indian, and Civil Wars The author/s apparently looked at Dabney's memoirs for Dabney's obituary. Too, probably because they are all members of the Southern Historical Society they would have known much of these things about Dabney. Something apparently not known is the reason former Major General Dabney Herndon Maury died in Peoria, Illinois at his son's home. Dabney was and old man and knew he was dying. He did not want to have his daughters bothered with this close-to-death situation. Dabney Herndon Maury therefore left Richmond, Virginia and went to his son's home. His son lived in Peoria because of the job he had. So, I would guess that the old general wrote part of his own obituary through his book. All an editor had to do was look through Dabney's book. In reading what you showed me, I easily see those statements are the same as in his book. But also I have seen other obituaries and perhaps the editors gleaned some portion from several newspaper obituaries. Dabney was a fun-loving man when he was allowed to be and not having to be so serious minded. He was thus considered quite a diplomat. He had no hate towards anyone after the uncivil war. Many of those people were still his friends. My father was very much like this but to show something as an opposite, Matthew Fontaine Maury was far more serious-minded. On recall from readings &c, I can only remember that Matthew was playful with his children and even then his daughters were his secretaries when he wanted letters to people in writing. Matthew was a kind and natural teacher to his children and his kin. By his kin, I refer mostly to John Minor Maury (his brother's son who was a hero on the Darien Exploring Expedition whom most people don't know about in these modern times. Author Todd Balf came to me for material on that history and later produced a fine book. This was fairly recent. Ah! Okay, I just caught myself. Old people like myself meander worse than Panama's (Isthmus of Darien) rivers. My apologies. Respectfully, —William Maury Morris II Talk 09:07, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
SHSP vol.18
editAdam, I just finished editing a SHSP page that I think you may have been looking for because of dates things took place.[[3]] There was a point when Dr. Wm. Jones stopped editing Southern Historical Society Papers and went elsewhere. He also did not want anyone else to continue onward with the SHSP volumes. —William Maury Morris II Talk 04:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
You seem to be in charge...
editWhile searching the name on Google, I came across this project and the rest, as they say, is history. I copyed the format of your stories from the Papers and just changed the numbers and stuff. I created the following.
- The Gallant Pelham
- The Visit of General Joseph Wheeler to Richmond, Va., Jan. 1 6, 1899, on the Occasion of the Presentation of a Portrait of Major John Pelham, to R. E. Lee Camp, C. V., by the Sons of Veterans.
- The Gallant Pelham and His Gun at Fredericksburg
- A Recollection of Pelham
- Major John Pelham, Hero
Somehow I must have fouled up, they don't look quite right, especially at the tops - but help would be great. Such an amazing project, I may have to stick around! GallantPelhams (talk) 05:28, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Strictly, William Maury Morris II is the one most responsible for the Papers; I'm just helping, especially with the technical parts. Anyway, the problem in the headers appeared to be one too many "../" in the title. Problems with the text itself are, for the most part, probably due to unproofread pages. Not all of the articles are complete at the moment. There is an indicator, sometimes called a "ribbon", just under the words "Southern" at the top of the page; this shows how much is not proofread yet (red), proofread once (yellow), and both proofread and validated by another user (green). Ideally it should all be green. If you want to improve a page of text, you can get to the proofreading area by clicking one of the numbers to the left or the "Source" tag at the top of the page (which you have probably seen as you have already transcluded the pages into the main namespace). It is a nice project, welcome aboard. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 13:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- There exists no one person "in charge here" other than administrators on Wikisource who keep us all in check, including each other, and make corrections. Several people are working on the Southern Historical Society Papers. Some do a few pages and others like AdamBMorgan do a lot of work. All I did in the beginning was request that the volumes be loaded on Wikisource. Immediately thereafter, AdamBMorgan stated that he had been thinking of such a project and it is he that has set everything up so that people like myself can edit. User:Tannertsf is to also be given credit for immediately stepping with AdamBMorgan and myself and it was he that has edited finer than I ever have been able to edit. The project is like all WikiSource projects whereby anyone is welcome to edit pages on any project and especially a huge project with 52 volumes. If you happen to be a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, as I was for almost a decade, please point out this area for them to come and edit. Since a SCV or MOSB member has to prove ancestry they should welcome this invitation because the Southern people who produced the 52 volumes of the Southern Historical Society Papers were telling their side of the uncivil war as a rebuttal to the North's statements and its publications of the "War of the Rebellion". If you are a Southerner, even at heart, according to the SCV creed in reference to General Stephen Dill Lee, "It is your duty....." but in my opinion it is more like just reproducing what the Southern people wanted to pass onward throughout Southern History as opposed to letting the Southern side of that conflict just pass away like Gray Ghosts. The several administrators here are the best I have seen on all of Internet. They work together and they all work with teaching themselves, others like myself on how do whatever it is that we users ask about. As an example, a person who uses an alias, called Inductiveload, created at my concern, his Javascript for Eye Strain so that the background can be whatever color I want when editing text as opposed to a snow-blindness start white screen for hours at a time. Those who really love history, poems, &c., &c., do work for hours at a time because what they choose to work on they like so much that they work for many hours. I do not know, but believe, that "Billinghurst", a long-time administrator, has earned more authority on all of Wikisource. That person has been here for many years and like our other administrators here is highly intelligent in this field of technology and kindness as well as well as well-mannered. Here on Wikisource we all become a family as Billinghurst himself declared and I agree with that statement of his. The SCV and MOSB members fight amongst themselves. "A House divided", and that is a Scripture, not just something that Lincoln correctly stated. We do not argue here and are not allowed to argue even if we wanted as a rule backed by a consensus of all administrators. So, welcome and please ask others to come and join a wonderful place of Peace on the SHSP Project or something else you may be interested in. Here we build together for those of today and of generations yet unborn. Kindest regards, —William Maury Morris II Talk 17:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Men of Mark in America
editAdam, there are two (2) volumes entitled Men of Mark in America on archive.org These volumes could assist us in finding images of men and biographical material. They show images of those who authored and what they authored. These two volumes could assist in the "Author" pages we work on. Moments ago I placed an entry for Marcus Joseph Wright who was very important in collecting Civil War reports for the "Official Records". He was a Confederate general and was president of a "Southern History Society. General Dabney Herndon Maury wrote about this man in his "Recollections of a Virginian in the Indian, Mexican, and Civil Wars. The North did not ant to exchange war materials for a long time but yet it wanted what the SHSP had collected. General D H Maury refused unless it could be an equal exchange, as stated in his memoirs which are on Wikisource. The North kept trying but they would not do an "exchange". Finally, an exchange was done and much of what the SHSP was exchanged for the reports in the "Official Records". In consideration, there should be some good pages within the SHSP volumes that I will seek out later today. You may wish or may not wish to consider placing those two volumes on Wikisource. You are the one with the knowledge for these situations.
Source: [[4]]
Men of mark in America; (June 1905) volume II.
Author: Gates, Merrill Edwards, 1848- [from old catalog] ed.
Respectfully, —William Maury Morris II Talk 08:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have noticed the title coming up when I have searched for author information; it would be useful. I'll upload and set up both volumes later today. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Done Index:Men of Mark in America vol 1.djvu and Index:Men of Mark in America vol 2.djvu. There seems to be something wrong with the URL2Commons tool at the moment, so I did this the hard way which took a bit longer. I've also started the download of the page images to get the portraits but that is going to take even longer (especially with everything from processing to upload added on top of the download time). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 15:41, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent! But take your time Adam, we always have plenty to do. Too, I now expect that whenever we use the volumes for in creating and enhancing an "Author" page, that a destructive "Wolf" may come to take whatever we may create off to WP and delete what we produce on WS. We shall see in due time. Most Respectfully, Maury ((—William Maury Morris II Talk 17:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Request
editAdam,
- [[5]]James Morris Morgan
would you be so kind as to place this book on wikisource? I would very much like to edit it. There are also illustrations within. Very Respectfully, —William Maury Morris II Talk 13:02, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm still having problems with the upload tool. This might have to wait until April, when my download limit resets. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:01, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know all that entails, Adam, and I didn't know you have limits on downloads so I will respectfully withdraw this request and work the book like I used to years ago. I like that better anyhow. There's more freedom to it. It presents no problem to me to work with it the old way. I don't know what the "upload tool" is and I don't know how to find it and try to use it. Even Billinghurst had problebs setting up one of the djvu files. Something seems flakey in all of that, it should be simple with experts all around us. Still, I like the old way just as good where there is no image beside the text. It looks more like a book. Most Respectfully, Maury (( —William Maury Morris II Talk 23:40, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it, it's not a serious problem. I was referring to the URL2Commons tool, which just copies the file directly from the Internet Archive to Wikimedia Commons without having to pass through my computer in between. My download limit only matters because the alternative is saving a copy to my computer then uploading it to Commons (the tool is both faster and doesn't touch my download limit). Normally I never reach my monthly download limit but this month I tried to download a lot of data to try to determine the top 100 authors on Wikisource for January 2012. The files were a little larger than I expected. Anyway, the end of the month is this weekend, so it won't be long before I can do this the hard way (and maybe the tool problems will have been resolved by then too). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- I am not worrying and in looking at the way URL2Commons tool works one has to have a special account and password (Toolserver User Screening Control) aka "I have a TUSC account!" that I have seen some people announce or perhaps it was on their user page. My computer is very fast so downloading a .PDF file is nothing to me and as (I think) you've stated the .PDF file images look better. That would be due to compression in djvu files and I certainly have seen the differences in working with images. The .DJVU images show intense compression and there is no altering it. I have tried many times and I see the differences and I refer especially the photographs of people. I have no concerns about trying to upload a .PDF file to Commons but in that experiment, if I should make a mistake, the administrators on Commons will not like what I have done. I really wouldn't like for those fellows to throw stones at me and *that* is the only reason as to why I do not just upload the .PDF file to Commons -- I do not want to create problems for them. I would guess I would have to place a .PDF file in a specific Category created by myself. There is no leeway for experimentation to learn how to work with .PDF files -- or .DJVU for that matter. I don't need .djvu images. I believe I would prefer .pdf files which I work with a lot including stripping every image from a big, fat, .pdf file and creating .pdf files. You have stated that you don't know why .djvu is used over .pdf except as a habit and it was ongoing when you started here. The reason is speed and compression. I have no concerns over speed but I do over the quality of old photographs being overly compressed. The difference in many cases is quite obvious even when not cleaning the photographs. I already have the .PDF file on my computer and have run OCR on the book. It took very little time. The OCR takes longer than any download. Ah well, I am back working on SHSP articles for now. Kindest regards, Maury ((—William Maury Morris II Talk 00:46, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it, it's not a serious problem. I was referring to the URL2Commons tool, which just copies the file directly from the Internet Archive to Wikimedia Commons without having to pass through my computer in between. My download limit only matters because the alternative is saving a copy to my computer then uploading it to Commons (the tool is both faster and doesn't touch my download limit). Normally I never reach my monthly download limit but this month I tried to download a lot of data to try to determine the top 100 authors on Wikisource for January 2012. The files were a little larger than I expected. Anyway, the end of the month is this weekend, so it won't be long before I can do this the hard way (and maybe the tool problems will have been resolved by then too). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know all that entails, Adam, and I didn't know you have limits on downloads so I will respectfully withdraw this request and work the book like I used to years ago. I like that better anyhow. There's more freedom to it. It presents no problem to me to work with it the old way. I don't know what the "upload tool" is and I don't know how to find it and try to use it. Even Billinghurst had problebs setting up one of the djvu files. Something seems flakey in all of that, it should be simple with experts all around us. Still, I like the old way just as good where there is no image beside the text. It looks more like a book. Most Respectfully, Maury (( —William Maury Morris II Talk 23:40, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Adam, would you consider placing the following on Wikisource. It is only about 40 pages. *[[6]] Subject: Lincoln, Abraham, 1809-1865 ; Author: Christian, George Llewellyn. —William Maury Morris II Talk 05:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)—William Maury Morris II Talk 15:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Featured text for April
editHello Adam,
Shaving Made Easy seems the favorite choice for April. Here's a possible descriptive text for the main page. Soon, Erasmo Barresi (talk) 22:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Shaving Made Easy: What the Man Who Shaves Ought to Know is a 1905 illustrated textbook about shaving published by the 20th Century Correspondence School.
Shaving at home instead of going to the barber has recognised advantages in terms of time, money, and health; but it can also be more difficult. The work is particularly intended for those men who have difficulties in shaving himself. It examines all aspects of shaving and all necessary objects. The purpose of this textbook is to make each man «able to shave himself easily and even better than the babrer can do it for him».
First-class tools are necessary at the very outset. No matter how skillfully one may handle inferior tools, they will invariably produce poor results.
Probably as many failures have resulted from the use of poor razors, strops, or soap as from the lack of knowledge how to use them. In order that the best possible results may be attained, good tools and skill in using them should go hand in hand.
The shaving outfit should consist of one or two good razors, a first-class strop, a mirror, a cup, a brush, a cake of shaving soap, and a bottle of either bay rum, witch hazel, or some other good face lotion. These constitute what may be considered the necessary articles, and to these may be added a number of others, such as a good hone, magnesia or talcum powder, astringent or styptic pencils, antiseptic lotions, etc. which, while not absolutely requisite, will nevertheless add much to the convenience, comfort and luxury of the shave.
- Yes, that seems to work: Test. (I shrank the image, the template gives 80px as the standard for a portrait image.) I was wondering what to write for that one. Cheers. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 23:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on the Help documents
editHi, in trying to direct a new user to the Proofreading side of things I came across the work you've been doing on the Help documents. I particularly like your Help:Proofreading example. I wish I'd had this when I started on enWS. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:19, 30 March 2012 (UTC)