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Kefas Brand

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Can’t find many in depth sources online, I believe he fails WP:GNG. --IWI (talk) 13:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Artists, Businesspeople, and Uganda. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - concerns raised at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kefas Brand are still present. Refs all read like spam. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note. I deleted the first version of this article, but allowed the second to be created because it was reasonably different. However, I agree with the nominator and Spiderone about the poor sourcing, so I too think it should be deleted. Bishonen | tålk 20:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

James Cawthorn (artist)

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Unreliably sourced article. A WP:BEFORE search offers little in the way of further sourcing. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 23:03, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I created this article because it was linked to a dozen pages already, had an article in another language, and is the author of The Crystal and the Amulet, which has had an article on the English Wikipedia for years. I also linked to external databases, most of which have longer articles about him than this current stub --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 23:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

weak keep: There's a review of a book written about him [1], suggesting notability. This [2] was published on paper at one point but is now online; Cawthorn has an entry there. Oaktree b (talk) 00:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sahla Parveen

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Nothing has changed since the last AFD. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The reference to Deccan Chronicle is valid. However, the inclusion of 'Amazon' as a reference is inappropriate and does not meet reliable sourcing standards. Given these sources, the subject may not meet the criteria outlined in Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines (WP:GNG), which require significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Therefore, additional references from reputable publications would be needed to establish notability effectively. Baqi:) (talk) 10:56, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the DC's author seemed dubious, but further review revealed that Cris S is an assistant editor at DC. After removing Amazon and Goodreads, the other three sources don't meet the significant coverage requirement.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: While some of the reliability of the sources can be verified, the article cannot stand alone as the subject does not meet Wikipedia's WP:GNG criteria.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 07:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elena Felipe and Bernadina Rivera

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Could not find coverage to meet WP:ARTIST. The one source provided may be indepth but one needs multiple sources to demonstrate notability. LibStar (talk) 04:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael_Keller_(designer)

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Articles for deletion/Michael Keller (designer)

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The article reads like a CV; was anonymously contributed by the same IP address in both English and German, the languages of spoken by the person the article is about; and doesn't seem to pass the notability test. Themrbeaumont (talk) 21:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 November 3. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 21:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no reliable sourcing provded for claims made. See source assessment table. I am not finding anything else online. Moved laundry list of awards and exhibitions claims off main space --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://www.psfk.com/2013/09/frankfurt-auto-show-displays.html		?	link to empty dashboard	✘ No
https://retaildesignblog.net/2013/01/02/vodafone-flagship-store-by-kms-blackspace-cologne/			retail design blog	✘ No
https://en.red-dot.org/3340.html	?	?	? Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead	? Unknown
https://web.archive.org/web/20111012164438/http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/experience/audi_forums0/audi_forum_ingolstadt/museum_mobile.html			no mention of Michael Keller	✘ No
http://www.contractdesign.com/contract/design/features/Interiors-Awards-201-4386.shtml	?	?	? 404 Not Found	? Unknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbLRclxpA_s			YouTube video Space	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Keep - Source links were not updated. In the following are the accurate links relating to each topic mentioned, proofing the relevance of this page and the person it is about, Michael Keller:

Source	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://www.red-dot.org/project/a-change-in-perspective-audi-fair-stand-iaa-2013-21554	Previous source linked to an empty dashboard. This project is discussed here in great detail by an internationally renowned award, with more than 60 years of history.	The source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
https://architizer.com/projects/vodafone-flagship-store/	Previous source linked to a design blog. This source is the largest database for architecture and sourcing building products.	The source discusses the subject directly and in detail.	✔ Yes
https://gomuseum.de/02773211/museum_mobile#google_vignette	Previous source did not mention Michael Keller. This source is Germany's biggest inventory of museums.	The source mentions Michael Keller directly and elaborates on the project and his work in detail.	✔ Yes
https://www.plotmag.com/blog/2014/10/black-space/	Previous source linked to a Youtube video. Replaced with source that is a major newspaper	The article discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Additionally, here are more links confirming the relevance of this page and the person it is about, Michael Keller:

<https://www.forbes.com/sites/berlinschoolofcreativeleadership/2015/06/01/five-questions-with-designer-michael-keller-founder-of-kms-blackspace/> <https://www.dandad.org/profiles/person/764488/michael-keller> <https://forward-festival.com/speaker/blackspace-michael-keller> <https://www.michaelkeller.com/> <https://www.red-dot.org/zh/project/kia-60974> <https://cloud.ramp.space/s/PG2KnUlYGH1x3RF#pdfviewer> <https://blackspace.com/people/michael-keller> <https://www.achangeofbrand.com/episodes/kia-with-michael-keller>

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Lou30075 (talk) 13:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agnes Gallus

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Biography of an artist, not properly referenced as having a strong claim to passing WP:NARTIST. The main notability claim attempted here is that her work has been exhibited -- but notability on that basis doesn't derive from using the self-published websites of the galleries to prove that the exhibitions happened, it derives from using reliable source coverage about her and her work to prove that they were the subjects of independent third-party coverage and analysis by people without direct involvement in her career.
However, this is referenced mainly to primary sources, like gallery websites and directory entries, with the exception of a Globe and Mail "Lives Lived" (its feature for personal essays about the deaths of people who were meaningful in the life of the writer, but not necessarily famous or notable) which was written by her own daughter and thus isn't fully independent of the subject, and a brief glancing (and thus not substantive) namecheck of her existence in a short blurb. And on a ProQuest search for other sourcing, I got just three hits total, of which one was the same Lives Lived and the other two are just more short blurbs.
There's also reason to suspect direct conflict of interest here, as the creator's only other Wikipedia activity has been the sixth resubmission in eight months of an undersourced draft about one of Agnes's daughter's films, which was originally created by a "different" editor with an only slightly different username whose edit history also revolves exclusively around the work of said daughter.
The daughter herself is genuinely notable, that's not the problem at all, though the related articles may need some review for COI-related neutrality issues nonetheless -- but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt Agnes from having to have more and better sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 20:13, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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First I want to just say to the person who has been working so hard on this: I'm really sorry if our discussion upsets you, I can appreciate that this is hard to understand when it is someone we personally feel passionate about memorialising. However, I'm afraid that this person just doesn't seem to have had sufficient coverage in reliable sources to justify inclusion in my opinion so I'm !voting delete. JMWt (talk) 20:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: To echo what JMWt said above, I apologize that the author of this article has been working so hard on this article and it is now being discussed for deletion. Unfortunately, the subject of the article simply hasn't received any significant coverage in reliable sources. I find it strange that this article was passed through AfC in the first place, this should have been a very straightforward rejection. Noah ^💬 21:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No listing in the Getty ULAN [3]. Gnewspapers only has record of her teaching a class [4] and some mentions in art catalogues from the 70s [5], [6]. That's not enough to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 21:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I can't find any indication that she meets WP:NARTIST. In particular I was looking to see if any art museum has her in their permanent collection. There is a photograph in the collection of the National Gallery of Toronto under her Hungarian name Agnes Szechenyi but it doesn't display and that's all I know about that. I couldn't prove that it's her. Lamona (talk) 16:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:28, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chloe Piene

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This article was created by and most contributions are from single-purpose accounts. One of these is clearly the artist herself; I wonder if the others have conflicts of interest. One of them (Harajuku650) dropped the problem tags, though perhaps they felt they had addressed the flagged issues? It still sounds less than neutral. This article was tagged for notability issues, and I'm still unclear on whether it demonstrates notability. One editor also suggested it might be easier to delete and start from scratch than rewrite to eliminate the POV content. -- Beland (talk) 15:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: The Getty ULAN has a biography and list of exhibits [7], this would seem to meet artist notability. The works reviewed (discussed near the end of the article) also show critical notice, which is what's needed for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - This article is a mess. I started cleaning up the embedded links, changing them into inline citations. Most are garbage. I can't decide whether to skip the clean-up and just do a source analysis. Leaning towards rewriting this completely. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Her work has been shown in major institutions, some having acquired pieces for their collections; coverage exists and some is on the page, so that, although the page needs cleanup, an article about her may be retained imv. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Article re-written to Wikipedia standards. This is a notable artist. Removed cruft and weird sourcing. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article has been improved since initial nomination. Go4thProsper (talk) 15:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable artist, per public collections Hermann Heilner Giebenrath (talk) 09:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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