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July 25

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 25, 2024.

Stun ray

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The subject of the redirect is not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear what subject this redirect is meant to define. From a preliminary search of Wikipedia, it seems this redirect is mentioned nowhere. Steel1943 (talk) 21:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak retarget to stun gun, which mentions the current target. Hesitant because 'stun weapons' are not really described at that target. Might be better to return this to red for now. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 21:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I'm legitimately befuddled that this isn't mentioned and discussed in detail at the target article, given how much a staple it is in sci-fi. Making a character sleep without actually hurting them is just such a USEFUL thing for a writer to be able to do, that even in non-scifi works you get things like that one punch that harmlessly KOs you, or chloroform, or a sleeping drug or whatever. In sci-fi, they definitely use stun guns all the time, from Star Wars to Star Trek and beyond. It's a trope for a reason. Normally, when I feel like article creation should be encouraged I !vote delete to redlink it, but here, I don't think it deserves its own article at all... I just think it should be included in this one. Err... not that I'm volunteering to write it though. Not sure what to do in this situation. Fieari (talk) 23:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Raygun - it's a scifi weapon that shoots rays, that mentions stunning: A wide range of non-lethal functions as determined by the requirements of the story: for instance, they may stun, paralyze or knock down a target, much like modern electroshock weapons.. BugGhost🦗👻 12:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
   — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
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Jerry Temporary

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a misremembering of the song's name that became a siivagunner meme. not mentioned in the target or notable on its own, BUT it might actually be a plausible search, as it's ironically become a common misremembering later on (or siiva is just that influential on public musical knowledge, it's hard to tell). opinions? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I don't know who siivagunner is but googling the phrase "Jerry Temporary" comes up with lots of Temporary Secretary hits. Redirects are cheap, if it helps someone get to the right article then it's worth keeping (and it get a lot more hits than most things on RfD). BugGhost🦗👻 13:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Andy youre a star

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This redirect is misspelled, it should be "Andy, You're a Star". Correct spelling already exists. Apollogetticax|talk 08:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep, seems harmless. 1234qwer1234qwer4 10:42, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Quail, quail, quarry

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I couldn't find any reliable sources that used this name, and most sources that use it seem to be directly copying the distinctive phrasing of the article "Quail, Quail, Quarry sometimes in New Jersey and New England)", which was added in 2020 by User:Duckduckgooseking1. I've removed the name from the article and unless it's reintroduced the redirect should be deleted as well. Rusalkii (talk) 21:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete (maybe speedily as a hoax?). Good catch. I can't find anything on Google that doesn't appear directly sourced to our article when the content was there (and even still, only 4 pages of hits). Zero hits in newspapers.com, ebescohost, archive.org's library, the DBs I have access to via proquest, nor gbooks. It's possible it's a real term but should be deleted until there's some source that didn't originate from us. Skynxnex (talk) 21:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Joe Biden approval rating" and others

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2021 and 2022 have passed. The issue here is whether we should be retargeting these redirects to 2024 opinion polling on the Joe Biden administration or rather its parent article, Opinion polling on the Joe Biden administration. I have a preference for the former scenario, because very few people care about Biden's approval in previous years any more. Once the year is over, the target can be changed to the parent article. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 17:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aeris dies

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lmao. wouldn't "aerith's death" be a slightly better way to word it? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biometal,Mega man ZX

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i don't know if that's a missing space or a typo, and i don't think it's worth trying to find out cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not a plausible search term. Very badly formatted. Ca talk to me! 14:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Live Metal

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...as opposed to a live metal concert, or a third thing i might be forgetting? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

if context is needed, that's the japanese name for biometals, the game's macguffins. i assume it was changed to avoid this specific kind of ambiguity cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
HEY WAIT A MINUTE, biometal is even more vague. there goes that theory cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ciel (video game character)

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there are other video game characters named ciel. would this be worth retargeting to ciel, or can it be deleted with little issue? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

note: there may only actually be one other video game character named ciel. apparently two of them are the exact same ciel, and one of them might not be from a game. would be less confusing if pokémon reborn was notable enough for an article, but eh cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Golem(Mega Man Zero)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#X3. Thryduulf (talk) 18:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

missingspace cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

List of characters in the Mega Man Battle Network seres

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G7. Thryduulf (talk) 18:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

that sure is a lot of characters to type before a tpyo cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Creator delete Yeah nah that was from 2008 when I was still just figuring out the site, kill it with fire.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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MEga Man X6

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unnecessary miscapitalization. not much more to say, honestly cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Clutters search. Ca talk to me! 14:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bikers for Trump

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was article created. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 02:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete. Bikers for Trump is getting enough notoriety that a separate article is warranted. They were mentioned in the 2024 George Lang controversy about a coming civil war in the U.S. and the founder, Chris Cox ran for Congress against Nancy Mace. Scarykitty (talk) 15:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. I looked at the target and it contains some basic information about the group, aiding readers. I am on the fence about WP:RETURNTORED. Ca talk to me! 15:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Theoretical high pixel count images

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Not mentioned in target, and contents of the gigapixel article doesn't contain any technical relevance that would be applicable to peta-, exa-, zetta-, or yottapixel images. The size difference between a gigapixel image and a yottapixel image is huge - printed at 300dpi (standard magazine quality print), a gigapixel image would be about the size of a kingsize bed, while a yottapixel image would have about the same surface area as Neptune, and (if stored at 24bits/pixel) would require 6000x the storage capacity of all of AWS to store it as a png.

Note: Petapixel was recently listed at RFD and deleted, but that had different circumstances because of the existence of the unrelated article PetaPixel. BugGhost🦗👻 15:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These seem like plausible search terms; someone may be curious to see if these higher designations exist or are used for anything. jp×g🗯️ 00:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I still feel the same way I felt about the previous RfD. Basically, if some sci-fi or otherwise speculative writer mentions an absurdly large SI-prefix referring to the size of an image, then the reader should be able to look up the concept of "absurdly large image" on wikipedia, even if the exact level of "absurdly large" is not specifically mentioned. Fieari (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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FinalMethod

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Not mentioned at the target with or without a space. Internet and Google Scholar results did not turn up anything illuminating. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia

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It is not clear why this redirects here. "Port Royal" itself is ambiguous, and there's no mention of "Port Royal" in the article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • It's certainly not notable enough to warrant a proper article. About 15 years ago, somebody created an article for it but it's no more than a hamlet on Isle Madame, NS. PKT(alk) 15:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Florence and Ivan Cameron, and Wilfred Johnson

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Delete per previous post Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @DeFacto from previous Rfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Parafasciolopsis fasciolaemorpha

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These redirects show up blue in the target article and thus give the misleading impression that we have articles about these species. Lophotrochozoa (talk) 10:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

big rigs redirects with no space

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missingspace, but it sounds like something the game itself would do cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as harmless, especially if it sounds like something the game itself would do (I have no opinion on that and the images in the article don't help). Thryduulf (talk) 02:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    if context is needed, "beating" a "race" with it earns you a crusty png of a trophy, accompanied by the text "you're winner !". it's exactly that bad. an image of that "win screen" wouldn't actually be too bad, now that you mention it cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Degi dialect

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Not mentioned in any capacity at the target. Unclear how/why this redirect would make sense. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of my recent mass redirects of Ryukyuan languages come from the supplementary metadata of UniCog (unicog_meta_v1.xlsx) and Nakamoto (1981:459-463) (図説琉球語辞典). Degi is a subarea of Okinoerabu (though information is very obscure; but see here for a postal code number list of Okinoerabu which includes Degi). Chuterix (talk) 21:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kernel service

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trying again cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

nominated by @Jtbwikiman, with the following comment
This redirect is completely inappropriate. I'm proposing that we change it to redirect to Kernel until someone wants to make a new article for Kernel Services.
i nominated it again because the original nomination was malformed cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Digimon World Re：Digitize

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that's a completely different type of colon. not sure who would write the title in english, switch to a japanese keyboard setting to add that specific colon and nothing else, and then back to a latin one to write the rest cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as implausible mixed-script redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I'm an EFL teacher to native Japanese speakers and see my students do this kind of thing all the time. Random "full-width" punctuation and spaces everywhere when they try writing in English. No comment as to whether or not that makes it keepable, but just needed to say... yes, they do this. No, I don't know why, no matter how many times I tell them not to. Fieari (talk) 04:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    On reflection, coming back to add: I do know why they do this. Japanese keyboards have a button to switch between hiragana/kanji, katakana, and romaji modes, as well as some other modes as well. Japanese users are very familiar with switching between modes multiple times within a single sentence in order to type the characters they need. So they are typing in romaji mode to type the less familiar English characters/words, but then they suddenly come across a character they are used to much more, the colon! So they switch back to kana input to put in the familiar character before switching back to romaji mode to continue typing the unfamiliar parts. As I said, it happens A LOT despite my best efforts to curtail it ("Just keep it on romaji while in English class!") Fieari (talk) 07:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    this is almost as cursed as turning caps lock on and off for each individual capital letter. still, i don't think it's plausible to do that with an originally japanese game on english wikipedia, but that's a possible wrench in the plan cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I think Fieari presented a good argument on why Japanese speakers might use this redirect. Since redirects have low maintanance burden and the subject is a Japanese game, keep. Ca talk to me! 02:46, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep given the explanation given by Fieari. Given this is close, but not identical to WP:RFOREIGN. And given this game has a strong affinity to Japanese and the Japaneses JSP cover, for example, has the title in English also, if it's not uncommon for people to mix the scripts, no reason to delete given how cheap redirects are. Skynxnex (talk) 20:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

malformed digimon redirects

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missingspace too cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Likely spelling variant. Some readers may not realize it is common to put a space after the subtitle. Ca talk to me! 15:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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