Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/log/December 2023
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edit- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was removed by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 9 December 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]
- Notified: Rambo's Revenge (FL nominator, inactive), WP BBC, WP Sports, WP Awards, WP UK
I am nominating this for featured list removal because the article text has not been significantly updated in 15 years. The text content is woefully insufficient for a featured list, and large swathes of it are either unsourced, or sourced to old sources that should be updated. In particular, the issues I have found are as follows:
- The criteria for entry/winning has a source from 2008: [2] Is this still the criteria, and if so, can a newer source be used to confirm this?
The award has been presented to a football manager on ten occasions. It has been awarded to nine Britons, and eleven of the other fourteen winners were European.
All unsourcedDaniel Anderson, the only winner from the Southern Hemisphere, was in his native Australia at the time of the awards, so the then St. Helens captain, Paul Sculthorpe, collected it on his behalf
This is sourced only to a video of the event, which doesn't appear to work either.- The text fails to account for how it's counting when multiple people won an award e.g. in 2017
Other issue relating to table data that I have noticed are:
- Tables are using the place where someone is born, not their sporting nationality, in violation of MOS:SPORTFLAG. For example, Dina Asher-Smith, Dave Brailsford and Colin Montgomerie should all have British as their sporting nationality, as Great Britain compete in these sports (athletics, cycling, golf), not constituent nations of the UK
- Tables are using the Ulster Banner, some of which are in violation of WP:IRISH FLAGS (as they're referring to people's birth places and not the sports nationality). Some uses such as Michael O'Neill (footballer) are acceptable, as the football team uses this flag, but Stephen Maguire is an athletics coach, and in athletics they compete as GB&NI (and so Northern Ireland flag is being used for his birthplace, in violation of the MOS)
This table lists the total number of awards won by coaches of each nationality based on the principle of jus soli.
This just causes the birthplace/sports nationalities issues highlighted above again
All in all, the text for this is woefully short and unsourced, and so this is not an FL-level article, and needs significant work to attain that level. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:48, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per nom. Idiosincrático (talk) 07:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per nom rationale. Article needs much more extensive sourcing. Let'srun (talk) 02:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Demoting- consensus that it's not FL-quality and no work done after months. --PresN 19:07, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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