- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to RuPaul's Drag Race (season 15). I was considering closing this as Keep but most of those advocating Keep are saying Weak Keep so I'm closing this a Merge which will preserve the content. Liz Read! Talk! 06:09, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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Fails Wikipedia:ONEEVENT and arguably WP:GNG. Article appears to have been stacked (Wikipedia:Refbomb) with articles regarding the subjects appearance on a tv program. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and United States of America. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment argh, interviews in both Entertainment Weekly and Billboard [1] and [2]. Screen Rant is a marginally useful source [3] and an interview on MTV [4]. These are RS but interviews. I'm thinking it's a weak keep. Oaktree b (talk) 01:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Very brief bio in Out magazine [5]. I'm willing to give this a pass, it helps gender diversity on wikipedia. Oaktree b (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Interviews are primary sources. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Very brief bio in Out magazine [5]. I'm willing to give this a pass, it helps gender diversity on wikipedia. Oaktree b (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Non-notable reality show contestant. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- weak keep per Oaktree b. I think it does more good to keep it than it does to delete it. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:05, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep (disclaimer: page creator) per GNG. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:15, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment/request: If the article is not kept, please just redirect the page instead of deleting altogether. The article history should be preserved and the bio is likely to be expanded in the future (like most other RPDR contestants). ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to List of RuPaul's Drag Race Contestants (or similar page e.g. the season's page). If you remove Duboi's appearance on Drag Race, there's nothing of notability. Passing mentions about an appearance in theatre, or appearing at a bar. This does not pass WP:SIGCOV and therefore fails WP:ONEEVENT. GNG does not mean multiple mentions of an individual's appearances on a particular TV show. Please remember notability is not inherited. WP:NSUSTAINED applies too. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 23:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of Drag Race contestants would be the redirect. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:21, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge or Delete per Lil-unique1. BogLogs (talk) 01:07, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per Lil-unique1's proposal. DJ Cane (talk) 12:36, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Delete. Doesn’t satisfy WP:NPERSON Serratra (talk) 06:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)- Striking comment by blocked account. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:29, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect: to RuPaul's Drag Race (season 15), as per WP:BLP1EVENT.
- 2600:1700:9BF3:220:E1ED:E495:6792:F41B (talk) 17:28, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. DaffodilOcean (talk) 22:01, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: I have to agree with Oaktree b and UtherSRG on this one, as it would be better to keep rather than delete.Historyday01 (talk) 00:06, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Seems to be enough sources to meet GNG. CT55555(talk) 18:04, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as I see a discussion divided between those advocating Keep and those who want a Merge. I don't see much policy-based arguments, just opinions on whether or not editors believe this subject warrants, or doesn't warrant an article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Drag Race contestants or RuPaul's Drag Race (season 15). I came here because my boyfriend was surprised that the first person eliminated this season had an article, but unlike other queens who have done other stuff, it doesn't appear Irene has any other claim to notability. June Jambalaya (the first queen from the previous season) doesn't have an article, but Kahmora Hall (the first queen eliminated from season 14) does, as she appeared in Hocus Pocus 2. Being the drag sister to Bosco also doesn't count for much either, as Irene doesn't appear in Bosco's article, and that still doesn't prove any independent notability. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:21, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia eligibility is based on secondary coverage and has nothing to do with order of elimination on Drag Race. I've added mention of Irene Dubois to Bosco's article, thanks! I've also updated Irene Dubois's entry to note roots in Houston, a bit of theatre work, and attendance at Southern Methodist University. There's more to add about the subject's time in Texas and theatre work. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:15, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still no consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:40, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. For the reasons stated in the nomination. Not-notable reality show contestant. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 07:51, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better to at least merge or redirect the page than just deleting it? Historyday01 (talk) 00:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yup! No point in deleting the article history, especially since the article's likely to be recreated in the near future. ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better to at least merge or redirect the page than just deleting it? Historyday01 (talk) 00:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.