Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gulf and western (music genre)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Jimmy Buffett. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gulf and western (music genre)

This term is identified only with Jimmy Buffett, and even then only in two sources. A search for this term in association with musicians turned up nothing; without sources, the article's nothing but original research. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 17:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 17:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
merge to Jimmy Buffett. Artw (talk) 18:53, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge -- non-notable. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 20:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. "...Without sources, the article's nothing but original research" and with sources, it's not OR. More sources added including ones referring to other performers. — AjaxSmack 18:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: to Jimmy Buffett. That's certainly a lot of reliable sources, but neither they nor the article define this term beyond "What Jimmy Buffett's music sounds like." Whether that's enough to sustain a definition is shaky, but it's certainly not enough to sustain an article beyond a "'Gulf and western' has been a term used to describe Buffett's style" tagline in Buffett's article. RGTraynor 06:43, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Jimmy Buffet. Widely used in reference to the artist, but not notable as a separate genre. WesleyDodds (talk) 02:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP AS IS - Introductory statement is incorrect. There are now seven sources, some that attribute G&W to other artists (4 listed). For more examples, suggest listening to Radio Margaritaville during hours they play non-Jimmy Buffet music. Knowledge of this new genre is growing slowly. not like 'surfing' the internet. But it will grow! Doubt many people know that this is a 'strand of grass on Oakmont Country Club's latest U.S. Open Course' issue. Passing on to some folks in the music business. DUden (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Unfortunately for that premise, Wikipedia is not a publisher of first instance. Wikipedia can only report on that which is in the public eye by way of reliable, third-party, independent sources. To borrow from your metaphor, we can't pay attention to blades of grass here; we can only have articles on full-grown lawns. RGTraynor 21:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.