Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cassius Cook

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Sandstein 08:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cassius Cook

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Lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) Nothing in depth in major databases. No worthwhile redirect targets. PROD'd with two additional endorsements several months ago and yet no major sources beyond trivial detail have been forthcoming since. czar 17:52, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Law. czar 17:52, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Scattered hits in GNewspapers as a superintendant for schools, routine stuff. Oaktree b (talk) 18:22, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've expanded the article and added sourcing. He's not a major anarchist figure, but he had an impact and gets mentioned repeatedly. He does not seem to have been an attorney or a superintendent of schools at all.--Jahaza (talk) 20:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What three sources in that expansion are you considering significant source coverage? I'm not seeing the depth. czar 01:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There's a fair amount on him in Rebel Life: The Life and Times of Robert Gosden, Revolutionary, Mystic, Labour Spy, pp. 35–37 ISBN 155420058X. This includes his involvement with companies promoting quack cures for syphilis which the author links to his anarchist views in a roundabout way. There is a short bio of him in this book pp. 515-516 along with several mentions including naming him as the central figure in the defence of Emma Goldman. This book mentions his Cook Remedy Company manufactured syphelene as well as passing mentions to his anarchist activities. I would be ok with a merge but I'm not seeing a suitable target. SpinningSpark 06:38, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As discussed on the talk page, Rebel Life is an assortment of trivia about Cook's dealings that we wouldn't cite in the article.

The "short bio" is three whole sentences on p. 515 (nothing on 516) as part of Goldman's archivist introducing dozens of names that appear in passing throughout this exhaustive three-volume documentary on Goldman's life (thousands of pages). Cook is not noteworthy in this context and it certainly is not enough on which to base an encyclopedia article.

The other sources either are passing mentions or have no depth.

His quackery wouldn't have a merge target because it isn't noteworthy enough to be included anywhere, and his relationship with Goldman is not even noteworthy enough to mention in her article. He played a supporting role in the anarchist community. So what exactly is he notable for? czar 13:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep a search shows up what I feel to be sufficient material to sustain the article. I do feel the article needs to be reworked and the sources need to be reviewed so that if there are better ones they can be substituted or added. --Canyouhearmenow 12:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 18:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: California, Illinois, and Iowa. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:15, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to see a response to my review of the sources above. I don't see how we could write an article that does justice to the topic given the paucity of coverage of what is would be his primary reason for notability: his anarchist activism, which has only passing mentions in sources. czar 04:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:46, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I do not see how GNG-compliant coverage needs to cover his anarchist activism ASAP. To me, bringing up "his primary reason for notability" pertains to A7, not GNG. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:38, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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