Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baby Had an Accident
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:04, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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This is a split album that doesn't appear to have received any significant coverage in reliable sources. Neither of the bands featured have articles. Fails WP:NALBUMS. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:04, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:04, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Important releases in their underground community and it is sourced.Soul Crusher (talk) 17:07, 28 August 2020 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Soul Crusher (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
- Delete: fails WP:NALBUM. The "sources" are the record label's website, the liner notes of the album itself, and an interview with one of the bands on a blog, so none of the sources are independent or pass WP:RS. Article creator asserts notability, but provides no evidence of it. Richard3120 (talk) 17:35, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- This source which the author recently added to this and other articles he created mentions a fanzine titled Baby Had an Accident. It references this split release but the claims by the article creator that the publication calls the album "dark and sinister" are false, as that description is about the fanzine. The author is attempting to fabricate its notability. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- I notice the fanzine is also written by the person who runs the record label that this record was released on. So as well as not being an RS, effectively the fanzine was named after his own release. Richard3120 (talk) 18:37, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- The Morning Call is a RS. Is there any way--or does enough coverage exist--to combine the Sin Factor, Factor 42, etc., articles into one? Skeptical, but maybe. Caro7200 (talk) 18:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Caro7200: The Morning Call is an RS, but the article is about a fanzine produced by the same person who released the album on his own label, so very much a primary source. Richard3120 (talk) 19:16, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Richard3120: I don't see how this reference is being used incorrectly. It's still only one reference, but the reference itself is fine. Caro7200 (talk) 20:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Caro7200: But the article is still nothing to do with this album, it's talking about the fanzine of the same name. There's only one sentence in the whole article about the album, "The cassette itself comes wrapped in a fake soiled diaper." The article would probably be better used as evidence of notability for GPC Productions, which this editor has also created, but it's difficult to see how a cassette attached to a local fanzine with a print run of only 250 copies is widely notable. Richard3120 (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Richard3120: I think Soul Crusher and myself think that the specific sentence used as a reference refers to the album...but since the zine and the album have the same name, it's hard to tell completely. I don't think there is enough to keep this, but, like I wrote above, and if the sources exist, perhaps Soul Crusher's recent articles can fall under a GPC article (it currently links back to a different album) or something related. Caro7200 (talk) 13:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Caro7200: But the article is still nothing to do with this album, it's talking about the fanzine of the same name. There's only one sentence in the whole article about the album, "The cassette itself comes wrapped in a fake soiled diaper." The article would probably be better used as evidence of notability for GPC Productions, which this editor has also created, but it's difficult to see how a cassette attached to a local fanzine with a print run of only 250 copies is widely notable. Richard3120 (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Richard3120: I don't see how this reference is being used incorrectly. It's still only one reference, but the reference itself is fine. Caro7200 (talk) 20:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Caro7200: The Morning Call is an RS, but the article is about a fanzine produced by the same person who released the album on his own label, so very much a primary source. Richard3120 (talk) 19:16, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- The Morning Call is a RS. Is there any way--or does enough coverage exist--to combine the Sin Factor, Factor 42, etc., articles into one? Skeptical, but maybe. Caro7200 (talk) 18:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Per WP:XY. Barely found anything about the album aside from an interview which partially talks about it. ASTIG😎 (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 12:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Click on the red-linked band names in this article, and you will find that they were previously associated with another album that was deleted earlier today at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sin Factor. It's tough to tell what actually happened with the history of all the deletions and redirects, but note all the red links currently in this article. Everyone associated with the album, from the two bands to the members of those bands to the producers, have been deemed non-notable elsewhere in Wikipedia. Procedure-wise, this album is probably eligible for speedy deletion per WP:A9. Regardless, everyone recommending deletion above is correct about the poor sources. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 01:31, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
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