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Please do not add or change content, as you did to Eusébio, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. GiantSnowman 15:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Either include a reliable source when you make the edit, or do not make the edit at all - it is as simple as that. Adding unreferenced information is a no-no, as a long-term editor such as yourself should already know. GiantSnowman 15:45, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to report me for adhering to our policies, but I fear it will WP:BOOMERANG on you. GiantSnowman 15:47, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Why didn't you include the references at the same time you made the original edits? GiantSnowman 15:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Add the references before you click 'save' - why is that so hard to understand? GiantSnowman 15:53, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Then why do you continue to save before adding the references? Please consider this a final warning, if you continue to revert and violate WP:BDP then I will block you. GiantSnowman 15:57, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

When you 'undo' my edit, please add the references before clicking on 'save' - why is that so difficult to understand? Do that and we have no problem here. GiantSnowman 16:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

But you are not adding the references when you save your edit! I have not removed any of your references because you have not actually added any. All you have done is re-add the unreferenced material. As I have said so many bloody times - click 'undo' to my edit, then add your references, and then click save. It is very simple. GiantSnowman 16:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

If you have references, then why have you not included any to date in the article? Please add them now, I will not edit any further to allow you to do so. GiantSnowman 16:14, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Please don't be such a WP:DIVA. Your work has not been deleted, all you need to do is 'undo' my edit; add the references; click on 'save'. I now understand your edits were made in GF, but that doesn't excuse the fact that you have still not referenced it, even though you have had plenty of time to do that. GiantSnowman 16:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

You are looking for WP:ANI. I urge you to read WP:BOOMERANG before you post. GiantSnowman 16:54, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

While I believe the situation could have been handled better by everyone, there is nothing to be gained by further discord on this subject. You have been given an adequate chance to properly cite your additions; I suggest you either do so, or not, and move on. I have closed the discussion on my talk page and request that no further comment be made there. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 18:06, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

If anyone should be adding those sources is that junk of an admin GiantSnowman because I wanted to add them and he never let me. I know he won't do anything because it would look bad to him and his huge ego. Thank you for understanding 331dot, really. And sorry if you felt dragged into this. Tibullus (talk) 18:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

You might want to rethink the "junk of an admin" comment - we do issue blocks for personal attacks. Look, Tibillus ... the simple fact of the matter is that you are REQUIRED at all times to include your reference with the first edit - you don't get to add them later. That's the basic principle behind being verifiable, and it's even more important on WP:BLP and recently-deceased people's article. GS actually did the right thing, and you need to recognize that. Don't worry - internet crow is not that "untasty" ... just remove your personal attack above, and reference everything in the future, and this will all blow over ES&L 19:12, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

@EatsShootsAndLeaves: I know I was wrong. You are simply not being fair. You are giving me a different treatment to the "admin" and as far as I'm concerned that shouldn't happen. In fact from my point of view the "admin" should be seen as being more responsible in this than me, as he supposedly has to know the rules and I'm just a regular user. We both failed, yes. But who do you think has to be given so much rant aswell? I know I was wrong but so was he. And I'm not removing a single word of what I said. Tibullus (talk) 19:24, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not treating anyone differently or less fair - I simply saw a flaw in your argument, and thought it would be better for you to back down and let it blow over. GS is a reasonable person, based on my interactions. After all, as adults, we all know that "fairness" was something we left behind in Grade 6 :-) We do not force apologies, or else they're useless apologies ES&L 16:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

@EatsShootsAndLeaves: If the "admin" was understandable, the community would have a better article. And I am sorry for two things: 1) I'm sorry I forgot to add the references but believe me, they were too much. 2) I'm very sorry I wasted my own time in writing bits for that article and verifying the sources just so some sadistic "admin" could have fun and revert it some half a dozen times, I could have spent it doing something useful. I'm never going to touch that article because of the mentioned person and I sure don't want any other sort of interaction with that ignoble "admin" of yours. Tibullus (talk) 17:55, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

This will be your final warning: retract all of your violations of WP:NPA above - this is ridiculous. You can't attack someone like this in your office, and you sure as hell cannot do it here. Your ridiculous attacks are merely reducing the validity of your argument - so much so that I'm refusing to read anything else until you smarten up and remove the attacks. ES&L 18:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

@EatsShootsAndLeaves: You're not even reading anything else. I'm trying to be really comprehensive to what you're doing but you're just interested in the adjectives I use with your special friend. You man up and stop covering your friend's rear. Tibullus (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

And calling them "special friend" is uncivil towards me, so stop. Look, GS already admitted on ANI that he screwed up. He cannot be forced to apologize further, not should he. I assume that you're a fricking adult, act like one, retract your attacks and move on. You agreed to a set of rules when you signed up, and NPA was one of them. I'm TRYING to look further into your issue, but just like George W wouldn't "negotiate with terrorists", I don't negotiate with those that violate the core principles in such an extreme manner. ES&L 18:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

@EatsShootsAndLeaves: That's quite an analogy, isn't it? Comparing a valuable user who has been registered for almost seven years with "terrorists". You're just a reflection of what admins seem to be these days and how they look down on regular users. You're the better men, aren't you? I have moved on. Like I told you, I don't want any sort of interaction with your sidekick. I'm not apologizing for my remarks just as your comrade didn't apologize for his actions even after he acknowledged I was acting in good faith. Simple. Tibullus (talk) 18:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Your lack of reading (again, a forced apology is not an apology, so don't ask for one), your adding motive to my attempts to help you, and your unwillingness to do the right thing speaks volumes about you. Congratulations. ES&L 18:36, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

@EatsShootsAndLeaves: So you're not forcing me to apologize even if you have threatened me numerous times to retract my comments. Really don't reply to this and bugger off. Go join your amigos in doing what you love to do, ruining other people's hardwork. Snobs. Tibullus (talk) 18:49, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

That is enough

This is exactly what I am talking about. This is your only warning, stop it now--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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In regard to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACeyockey&diff=589309474&oldid=588537522 -- there is nothing to help here. You (Tibullus) need to understand the extreme sensitivity that is often exhibited around sourcing material properly on biography articles. It is not a matter of blocking your work; you can easily assemble a properly sourced and expertly crafted passage on a subpage of your user page then put it into the article in one chunk. There isn't much room here for explanation of motivations or tossing around 'you lousy rats admins' mud; actions are actions ... editing without requested support is editing asking to be removed. However, one solution rather than deletion could have been addition of one or more Template:Citation_needed instances; that is a common approach throughout wikipedia ... in the first 50 transclusions of this template there are biographies of Aldous Huxley and Alfred Hitchcock and Alfred Korzybski. The question of whether to remove the citation needed-tagged passages or not from biographies seems to be less about 0-tolerance for uncited material and more about the impact of that material on the substance of the biography, and I've not reviewed the input in question here to be able to speak to that. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 17:45, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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hi i see you had some troulble with giantsnowman and now i know that im not the only one who gets annoyed with these people thinking theyre like god on here and reverting anything and everything — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.185.135 (talk) 00:24, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thank you for your edits on en.wp In ictu oculi (talk) 00:11, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

I have just noticed that the editor who blocked you for the Portuguese name on the Portuguese rugby union club has been asked to step down from admin duties for something not totally dissimilar to the treatment you received. FWIW I have asked at the Rugby Union project here how to improve the article. All the best. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:14, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: Hi, it's very nice to see my work is appreciated here. The regular user's hunger to seek knowledge and improve articles the best way only they can is what thrives me. Fortunately you are one among many who insist on growing Wikipedia beyond its current status and for that you have my admiration. I've decided not to further interact with admins because I will not be dictated upon by some elitists who really don't help the community, and only steam hate between various members. Maybe times will change and they'll know how to behave regarding users who have given so much to the whole Wikipedia project but oligarchy rule will apply here for quite some time. Cheers and happy editing! Tibullus (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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List of Portuguese football transfers winter 2012

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Would it be possible to change the name of the article entitled List of Portuguese football transfers winter 2012 to List of Portuguese football transfers winter 2011–12.

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Why isn't the article renamed to Sport Macau e Benfica? Fixed4u (talk) 20:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

See also S.L. Benfica (disambiguation).

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Hey man, Can you stop by this articles and check if you think it's ok, maybe improve some parts. I've been trying to write a summary, so that the articles aren't just a wall of statistics.2004–05 S.L. Benfica season, 2005–06 S.L. Benfica season, 2006–07 S.L. Benfica season, 2007–08 S.L. Benfica season, 2008–09 S.L. Benfica season--Threeohsix (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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