User talk:Stepshep/Archive 6

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Page removal

What is going on with this edit?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Graduating from a Chicago university shouldn't be covered by that city's project. There is no way that falls under your guy's scope. I think that's a really big stretch to fall under WP:CHICAGO. So I removed it. That's what happens on a wiki. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Marie Novello, Take 2

A little while ago, you very kindly offered some suggestions of what needed improving in the article about Marie Novello. Under that guidance, I've revised the article, and in the grand tradition of "no good deed goes unpunished" I was hoping that you might take a look at it, when time permits, and let me know whether what I've done suffices to address the problems. Once again, thank you for helping me up the learning curve! Drhoehl (talk) 20:39, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure, as soon as my bot finishes it's current run I'll get right to it. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Here's what I'd recommend taking a look at. Convert all <ref>'s per WP:CIT, this website will give you the basics if you input a URL or ISBN. I not a member of WP:CLASSICAL, so they may have a different style, but I'd look into converting the recordings lists into wikitables. Other than that some words almost verge onto WP:PEACOCK, unless you have sources that use words such as "promising" I'd replace them with something more neutral. Other than that nice improvements! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:00, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll follow up--and, again, thank you! Drhoehl (talk) 21:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

A question on viewer stats

What are Gork stats and where can I find them? You mentioned viewers looking for a certain article in an AfD discussion. Thanks. You can answer here or on my page as you choose. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, which Afd? Grok stats are independent page view stats that can be viewed at http://stats.grok.se/ , and accessed via Wikipedia:Web statistics tool. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Very cool. I just wanted to see how to get those kind of stats. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Article talk subpage

Hi there, I was wondering what your plans for Talk:Central State University/Temp are? I was gonna speedy it, but I couldn't find anything for tempory article subpage that hasn't been edited in over 3 months (hehe). If you're still using it would you mind putting one of the construction templates on top? Thanks! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:15, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I move the information there while the copyvio issue was being resolved. Feel free to speedy delete. -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 02:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter Delivery Request

[[<WikiProject Name>]]

1. Newsletter header/title

• Shakespeare WikiProject notice

2. Link to the newsletter

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Shakespeare/Newsletter

3. Link to list of users the newsletter will go to

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Shakespeare/Members

4. Any other specifics

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Would immediately work, or do you have a set date? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 04:14, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Immediately is best. Wrad (talk) 04:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Error report: The following users could not have a newsletter delivered: User:Barryispuzzled and User:Alabamaboy. Happy editing. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 04:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

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LGBT Project Newsletter

WP:LGBT studies

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bot

Bot is indeed coming along. I have been working to standardize it so that it can be used over and over and across the board(not just specific to your task). I hope to have some progress on this for you to take a look at within the next few days. MatthewYeager 03:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Idea for new bot

WPBirds have been discussing how to process over 12,000 pages and put a tag in the WikiProject banner to indicate those without a photograph in the infobox. The discussion is here; Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds#Needs-photo often missing. Do you know anyone who could make a bot? Snowman (talk) 10:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm asking for some help. Hopefully I should be able to come up with something fairly simple to run. I'll keep you posted. What's being proposed, after identifying which articles have/don't have images, is very simple. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 17:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Look within the {{taxobox }} of an infobox early in the page. Look after the image= (or image = and so on). Make sure there is a NAME.jpg (or Name-name.jpg or name-name name.jpg and so on). If positive there is a jpg in the infobox, then change the WPBird talk page banner template. If no .jpg in the infobox, change the banner also. Put .svg .gif and so on in a list for manual sorting. Do counting. I am not sure if looking for .jpg on the whole page will work as some are maps and diagrams and other stuff, and not a photograph of a bird. I guess someone good at reg ex should be able to to it. Ask about it on the Bird talk page. Snowman (talk) 17:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I understand what is needed. But thanks for that. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 17:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I am getting concerned because some of the questions you are asking about regex are rather basic. Snowman (talk) 18:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Well I guess you could do it then? If so, please do. Regex isn't a native language to me. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, call it off. See Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Another Regex/Module question. Snowman (talk) 18:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

That's where I was asking for help. I asked one question, then someone else came in and asked the rest. I have something that works so I'm doing it now. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Please do not run this script without discussion on the bird talk page that is linked above. Snowman (talk) 18:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I am running a dry-run, no edits will be made. I'm just generating a list. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Please do not change anything without discussion on the bird talk page that is linked above. Snowman (talk) 18:13, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

<quote>I am running a dry-run, no edits will be made.</quote> §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Changing the way editors sign

Please do not change how I sign my comments on article talk pages.[1]--Rockfang (talk) 19:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought I had that solved. I had an edit conflict with somebody, and readded my link to a screenshot. One of the scripts I use formats time stamps for me so they appear in local time; bit it's not supposed to modify pages. I apologize for the changes and will do what I can to remove the problem. If you are curious about the script I'm using it's in my monobook.js. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I alread fixed my comments. And thanks for the offer for viewing your script, but I'll pass.--Rockfang (talk) 19:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I was this close to fixing the page, and got an edit conflict with you. :) It should be resolved once I set everything back up. Sorry again. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I reverted you again. If you are testing out the script, please do it in a sandbox.--Rockfang (talk) 19:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not testing a script. I didn't code it. I got it from WP:USS or US or whatever they are. I'm trying to fix the problem but it is becoming increasing difficult when you keep making edits to the page; sit back for 2 minutes please. I promise the issue is this close to being fixed every time and then you swoop in. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:20, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

God that was difficult, I must have been trying to fix the page during the most busy time of day. Thanks for bringing my attention to the issue. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

helpme tags

Stepshep, it appears that you are going around removing {{helpme}} tags placed on user pages. While this tag is meant to be used only on Talk pages, by removing it without leaving a notice to that user you are only increasing their confusion and frustration. Please spend the extra time to explain to those users what they've done wrong, and maybe actually try to help them. Thank you! Owen× ☎ 19:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not my job to tell them what they've done wrong. The template does that for them. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Well then, if you're not willing to help, at least stop disrupting. Edits such as this or this help no one. Owen× ☎ 19:43, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually it helps the "helpers"; the templates clearly stated If you did not add this template, please remove it from this page. I did what it said, but I'll not go rounds about this. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad to see you restored the text you removed along with the templates. I never had an issue with removing inappropriate templates, but with the somewhat careless bulk-blanking way in which you did it in several cases. You are an experienced editor and bot programmer; your time can be much better spent doing constructive work. I bet you could easily write a bot to handle the helpme tags in a quicker and more accurate fashion, but again--it's up to you to decide how you want to contribute. Owen× ☎ 21:07, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

There's only a handful that accumulate every 3-4 months. It's a good way to pass time. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:10, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

St. Cats

I have finished checking by hand all the pages of form Pope Name (no number) and Saint Name and found no more disambig pages. Please comlpete this task for me-- thank you.

It look like many are already by someone done but please be sure to do the 5th cent list as before they were all put in the 6th cent cat by whoever did that one. Thanks again. --Carlaude ^(talk) 19:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Does the 6th cent cat need to be removed from articles where the 5th cent cat is added? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I think I got them all but if you have an easy way to be sure then go ahead and be sure.

Note that some that are in the 6th cent cat need to stay and of course do still add the pages on the 5th cent list to the 5th cent cat.--Carlaude ^(talk) 20:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

5th cent, got it. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Scrach that. Please remove the 6th cent cat from pages on the 5th cent saints list as you add those pages to the 5th cent cat. I see now there are many I did not fix.

Also, I see that none (as far as I have looked) of the saint pages on the five lists have been removed from the Parent Category:Ancient Roman saints per the original BOTREQ. Please remove the saint pages on the five lists from Category:Ancient Roman saints.

Also can you let me know when you are done? Thank you.--Carlaude ^(talk) 19:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Nope, I've been removing them as the bot hits the page. Can you show me an example of where this has not happened? I believe I only got the the 2nd of 3rd century saints, then stopped because I hit a few disambig pages. I'll just run through them all again; it threw me off when the other bot started making edits without letting me know. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

So were any pages removed from your master list? If so I'll need to update my lists. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. One name was removed from the 3rd cent list. I made a many a couple minor changes looking at all Saint Name pages... mostly to skip redirect pages. I do not know if I changed anything else.--Carlaude ^(talk) 04:56, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Can you do one more list?
• Add the long list marked Category:Christian saints in unknown century into that category. I know that not all of them are unknown century (at least for the A's that I have looked at the are more than 75% unknown century), but it will be much much faster and easier for me to weed them out of a category with HotCat than out of a list.--Carlaude ^(talk) 05:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I'll report when I get it done. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image license

Hello, Stepshep. You have new messages at Tinucherian's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinucherian (talk • contribs) 20:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Kubinyi

How do you get the accent marks?

Calamitybrook (talk) 01:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I just copied them from the article text. A website I use to get the codes for accent marks is here. But I believe it only works on Windows systems; other operating systems should have similar keystrikes though. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 01:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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St. Cat's

Thank you! --Carlaude ^(talk) 22:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

• I am looking in the parent Category:Ancient Roman saints and still finding names that are in these five lists I gave you. Did you or can you ask the Bot to also remove the pages from "Ancient Roman saints"? --Carlaude ^(talk) 00:34, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

--

I got a notice that you had a "message" for me on your talk page, but what, if anything, this may be about, I can't find. Sorry.

Calamitybrook (talk) 04:47, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

First it should be noted that categories can take a few days to update, so that might be the problem. Would you mind providing me with a page my bot edited that still has the Ancient Roman saints category in it or one that's in one of your lists and still in the category might be easier? If there is an issue, this will help me track it down much faster. Thanks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Look at these. --Carlaude ^(talk) 00:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

• John Cassian
• Pope Cornelius
• Ephrem the Syrian

I see the problem. Those are pages that STBot edited, and I figured that botop removed the category when they added the new one. Seems I was wrong. I'll comb through and get the rest. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Account creator permission

I've withdrawn the accountcreator flag from this account, as you don't seem to be using it. Feel free to request it back at my talk page or WP:RPE if you need it again. Stifle (talk) 10:41, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

US GeoCoords required - thanks

Thank you so much for your bot work, Stepshep. I really do appreciate your input - lack of categorisation of the US article set has been driving me mad. Now I'm v.happy, and have let the 51 or so US State wikiprojects know that they have articles to geocoord. I'm sure your input will lead to a number of editors taking up the business of geocoding articles. Really, hats off to you. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the kinds comments, I'll take them any day. But it seems a majority of the work has been done by The Anome. If you need anything with anything in the future let me know and I'd be glad to try and help! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

The Anome is indeed doing sterling work. But there is only one of him or her, and so tasks which could be done sooner if there were more bot operators interested in geocoords, get done later when The Anome has time to do them.

On the todo list right now, for instance, would be:

• Find articles which should be geocoded, are not, and add {{coord missing}} to them. Ideally {{coord missing|argument}} where the argument is a county, state or country. This would generally work by finding a category of geolocatable things, and recursing through. A list of candidates has been built at User:The Anome/Geolocation scan candidates
• Subcategorise the GB missing coord articles - I appreciate The Anome has said he will get onto this once he has finished the US
• A much more difficult one to do, and which would need some more groundclearing (though I think a record of consensus exists) would be to remove multiple redundant coordinates in US city articles - see this discussion, for instance.
• Making suggestions on the talk pages of UK geocoded pages (or geopages without photos) as to the existence of photographs taken in the vicinity of the article available on http://www.geograph.org.uk/
• Adding an external link to npemaps for every disused UK railway station for which we have coordinates. See Bailiff Bridge railway station, for instance - the external link Bailiff Bridge station on navigable O.S. map is the sort of thing we're after. (The reason: disused stations are normally not marked on contemporary maps, many of them by now being under concrete. They do show up on the 1940 npemaps. I'm pretty sure this one is not on The Anome's list, or if it is, it's not high up. The task would involve you doing coordinate conversions, and/or grabbing converted coordinates from geohack - the articles have latitude & longitude, npemaps seems to take 3 digit OS grid references as arguments.

If any of these grab your interest, let me know; I respect from one perspective I'm coming near to treading on The Anome's toes; on the other hand this wiki thing is meant to be about collaboration, and there's not exactly a shortage of work to be getting on with. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:56, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Some general comments: Bullet 1, I could do that, I've tagged about 80 articles for Ohio just out of NRHPs and found coords for 50 or so with the Elkman tools. My regex was really quick and dirty and I hand checked every edit because I had too many false positives. If I can come up with a better regex this one appeals to me the most. Bulltet 2, since that has been a long-standing practice I don't think that discussion warrants a consensus. We would need to have a thorough discussion of all the pros and cons in a centralized discussion where more than a handful or editors comment. If there is a more centralized one that shows obvious consensus then I'd be happy to remove them. Bullet 3, would be a very easy task; but I'm not sure about the clutter that might ensue. I wouldn't object to giving a list to a WikiProject, but some talk pages aren't watched by anybody and I'm unsure of what the messages effectiveness would be. Bullet 4, sounds difficult. :D §hep • ¡Talk to me! 04:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Also with Bullet 2, I believe it was Andrew Kelly who already has something coded to remove the extra coords. So after consensus either way, it might be good to contact him and get more botops on board. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 04:36, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I've reinstated the old BRFA, modified it for Bullet 1. A scan of landmarks in Ohio returned 227 pages that need a {{coord missing}}. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 06:09, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I might not have time to think about all of this until Tuesday next week; I only have internet access from Tues-Fri, which means I go silent for long period each week :( But input to bullet 1 is a very good start, thanks. I not the consensus issue re: US cities. The audit trail does show that we've tried to mount a couple of centralised discussions - I'll pull together some more pointers to that next week - but I agree your general point. I difficulty is that in reality, you get very few takers for centralised discussions, but you can be sure that when you get around to amending pages, the page watchers will come out from their stones and, to mangle a metaphor, will then throw said stones at you. I'm thinking we might go for an RfC before we do this, as a belt & braces buttress against such negative feedback. (A shield, if I'm to minimise metaphor mangling). As for geograph and talk pages versus geograph and projects ... I tend to think that people interested in subjects will watch pages and a very few may respond. Posting lists to projects is only about as likely to work, and so I would not prefer to do it this way, based on the not exactly rapid response to the coord missing outreach we've done on 70 or so projects. More later. --Tagishsimon (talk) 14:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, I go silent too due to school (semester exams in a few weeks) and probably won't be around much due to the holidays. Real life always seems to take over. :) But, ya, if you think that TalkPages is the better outreach then any messages can by all means go there. This summer I should be able to focus on getting a lot of coordinates when I'm out geocaching; something extra to add to an outing. I'd be happy to help get some people involved in a Cent in the near future. IRC might also be a good outlet to draw attention to a discussion. Cheers, §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for David_Krikorian

An editor has asked for a deletion review of David_Krikorian. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ryan8403 (talk) 23:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Request for Composers Project bot run

How are you for time? Any chance you could do a small run for us? We are hoping the bot could run through all the Category:Unassessed Composers articles (2,660 total articles) and mark all those rated as 'B' class by other projects to be marked B for Composers. Is that doable? If so, can we do a test sample of 100 first to make sure the script is working? --Kleinzach 02:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll start the 100 right now. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

100 edits done. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks great! We can finish the run when you are ready. Best. --Kleinzach 00:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Finished with another 111 edits for a total of 211 new B-Class articles. There was a certain template sequence that for some reason I couldn't grab, but I believe it would add maybe 10 or so more B-Class. I'll work on it to see if anything comes to fruition. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 01:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

An unrealted remark if you don't mind. Ive been reading around about the A/B-Class reviews the Composer project is running. It looks very nice. Since I'm not a member of the project, I really don't like to butt in where others are at work. But I would recommend that any of the project's members that assess an article as "A" nominate it for a GA, as A's are presumed to be better than the average GA and should pass easily. Also, I'd recommend not changing another project's assessment without them looking over the article against their own criteria; most especially with A-Class. Again, just a suggestion. If you need anything else let me know! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 01:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll pass on the first suggestion. Re the second, please note that most of us belong to more than one project. For example - as you know - I belong to at least five music projects, so I tend to uprate these at the same time as I do Composers. But perhaps you had something more specific in mind? --Kleinzach 02:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

(OUTDENT) My second comment was based on Composer's new A-Class article, where it looked to me like a member of WikiProject Biography changed their assessment from A back to B, and then that was reverted. The music projects are closer than alot of projects I've ran into; and many have their own set standard for A-Class articles. I totally that if you are a project member or know the project well, then by all means one should uprate them all. A-Class seems to bring the most wikidrama for some reason; but I guess I need some amusement. :) But I really won't prod on the issue. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:17, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Which article was it? I think this is the first time that 'A' class has been discussed on any serious music project. (Up to now the Opera Project etc. have ignored it and stuck to GA/FA.) --Kleinzach 02:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pietro Taglia §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:26, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

OK. I didn't have this on my watchlist - I see what has happened subsequently. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't have uprated the Biography Project rating at the same time I did the Composers one? I don't have strong feelings on this. . . . I once declared I was not a member of that project only to be told that everyone who works on a biography is automatically a member! --Kleinzach 02:36, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

That's just my personal feelings after other discussions I've come across on the issue. I don't believe there are any set rules, if there are I can't find them. I don't have that much of a a problem with your uprating, but more that someone from that project reset the old assessment and that was promptly reverted by another person. Oh well, what's done's done. Right? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:40, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, storm in a teacup. --Kleinzach 02:51, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

↔Another note, I've made change at {{Composers/Sandbox}} to display a message that the project doesn't use C-Class. The C-Class category could then be deleted after it's empty for 4 days. The wording's a bit rough, but atleast it gets rid of the functionality. I put all possible examples on the talkpage. What do you think? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah. That's very helpful. Thanks. However I'm wondering how it will work if the C-Class category is deleted. At the moment I can see if there are any Cs and then change them. If there is no cat - and the warning notice is ignored - how could we identify them? Is there a way of doing this? --Kleinzach 16:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

By the way, thanks for the run. I assume it's all finished now. Extracting the 200-odd nominal B-class articles was very useful. --Kleinzach 12:16, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It wouldn't matter, the category can still be filled and monitored. For instance Category:NA-Class Ohio articles is deleted. Yet the code:{{PAGESINCATEGORY:NA-Class Ohio articles}} makes 13 which is correct. The same could be done for the C-Class category, and even put into a userbox that changes colors similar to {{Adoption backlog}}. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

OK. This is a bit esoteric. I don't think any other participants at Composers will have an opinion on this and the wording for C class at Template talk:Composers/Sandbox is fine. No problem I guess. --Kleinzach 10:12, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Request put in. Would you like me to try-out a UBX or will the WikiMagic suffice? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. I don't know what these are! --Kleinzach 09:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that, WikiMagic are the "magic words" built into wikipedia that make something. ie {{CURRENTYEAR}} makes 2024. UBX is shorthand for the userbox project. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:05, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

OK then I think the WikiMagic will suffice! Best. --Kleinzach 01:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Father Damien

I undid this category addition by ShepBot. I didn't see a need to stop the bot so it should still be running, unless someone else stopped it.

Father Damien isn't a saint, yet. When he canonized, probably in the next year or two, his whole page will be updated and properly referenced accordingly.

This comes up from time to time, but it's usually well-meaning novice editors, not bots, making the mistake. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 22:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that, but the issue should be taken up with User:Carlaude, they made the list. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:18, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

What list? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 23:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Here you go. This list is from a now archived bot request to do these runs; I assumed everything there would be in order. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks davidwr for finding this error.

This list was made from many categories of saints on Wikipedia. The error, IMO, orgininates with this edit, made over a year ago by someone at 84.253.149.242, putting Father Damien in Category:Belgian saints and removing him from Category:Beatified people. From here I made a list of all saints to be identified by century. I may have caught it as I did so, but could very likely not have. --Carlaude ^(talk) 00:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I didn't readd any new categories (Seems 2 were removed a long time ago), but I did remove one that categorized him as a Belgian saint. Too bad that one seems to have flown under the radar for so long. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

St. Cat's Three

I see the problem. Those are pages that STBot edited, and I figured that botop removed the category when they added the new one. Seems I was wrong. I'll comb through and get the rest. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

So is this all done? If so thanks and I'll delete those lists.

Add the long list marked Category:Christian saints in unknown century into that category.

Sure. I'll report when I get it done. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Is this one still on your "to do list"?

I am also hopping you can continue to help me with more lists I have added to that page for various Christian history categories. If you cannot just let me know and I will look for someone else at BOTREQ. Thanks again. --Carlaude ^(talk) 19:38, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry! I need to set the bot to not archive so often, I lose track of things. Let's see, bullet 1 is done, I'll be on a computer tomorrow where I can do the second one. I'd be happy to do the new lists, but if you need them done immediately then you might need someone else; I'm studying for exams at the moment, but weekends I should be able to knock out a fair chunk of mthe workload. Thanks for prodding me, guess I have too many projects running! On second thought, I should be able to do the second bullet tonight. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:03, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess the answer is no-- just add unknown-century. --Carlaude ^(talk) 21:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Would you comment on the discussion at the bottom of my page? Thanks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Knocked out task 2. Please see a list I generated here. Before I work on another list, would you please double check all the articles there? 230 out of 1000 or so articles is too high on the false positive scale (23%), it's enough to ruffle some feathers for sure. Let me know when the next list is ready. Thanks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.

Since I don't know how to run wb bots I am not sure what is a simple request and want is not, but if I had know you could have done this sort of check I would have asked for this very thing. I will avoid asking you for to run list with a high expected false positive in the future.

The other lists are should have a false positive rate less than 2%. My design was to err on leaving things where they were if it is not clear. --Carlaude ^(talk) 17:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

2% is awesome. I really just don't like angry editors. I did a run beofre with aout 10% FPs, and I got more complaints and lengthy discussions than I like. I'll start the next runs soon. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

FAC notice

Thanks for your editorial assistance. Your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bob Chappuis would be welcome.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Category:Christian saints in unknown century

Just for your information, you have added this cat to the articles on a significant number of Hindu saints, which is offensive (I have removed as many as I could find). You have also added it to several hundred articles on Christian saints whose "century" is pefectly well known, which is misleading (I have left the same message for User:Carlaude). HeartofaDog (talk) 11:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

So I offended you? (Hope not) The category offended you? (It's all digital, why get offended? The again I don't really do the "religion thing" so maybe I'm missing something) Both? (Once again, hope it's nothing personal) I'm just the botop here. Sorry you're upset. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Of course you are missing something, but your loss if you can't see it. Leaving aside the offence, which in any case is not to me but to Hindus, the point is that you and your bot have categorised a large number of articles inaccurately, which was avoidable, and is a waste of everyone's time, since I'm sure it won't be you that goes back and fixes the mess. Either make more effort in future, or stop doing it. HeartofaDog (talk) 13:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Two things. 1. I have found why I the error rate esimate I expected (and led you to expect) was so far off for this list. (About 80-90% of the pages of have a death date on the page somewhere.) An editor(s) created a bunch of saint stubs (without century data) from an A-Z book (Holweck, F. G., A Biographical Dictionary of the Saints. St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co. 1924.) and began with the A's and soon after stopped. Thus a huge percent of the saints at the start of my list had no century data. But most of the rest on the list are not such stubs.

2. I have received a request from HeartofaDog to reverse the "Christian saints of unknown century" bot run. I would not otherwise think this called for reverse run but since the false positives rate is so high, it will be manageable (but still not as easy) to reverse the run for me to do this "by list." I guess it would be better to "do no harm".

If you are also so inclined go ahead reverse it, but use the current set of pages (and start with the "B's") or a list from it-- as both HeartofaDog and I have removed many names from the category the last few days. --Carlaude ^(talk) 16:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

So many, in fact, that it is probably now easier to leave it (the cat is down to c. 600 from 800+): we will just work our way through them all.HeartofaDog (talk) 17:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I was just waiting for word from Carlaude before reversing. I already had everything coded to reverse the edits. I have never run into this much trouble with categorizing and would have been more than happy to fix up "my mess". Please do not make assumptions on what I would and would not do, as you've never encountered me before and do not know how I edit and try to keep my edits useful, clean, away from affecting anybody else. I do make the best effort to have my runs go well, but if I am fed bad information which I assumed to be correct; I shouldn't get the butt of this just because I made the edits. If you have any trouble with one of my edits or my bot's in the future I'd appreciate it if you came at the situation in a more courteous manner. Thanks, and I apologize for the distress this seems to have caused you. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

As you say, you have clearly been fed extraordinarily bad data, and I apologize (1) for not appreciating earlier that the situation was out of your control and (2) for assuming that you were unlikely to be willing to tackle the results. Please be assured that I have been caused no distress either real or apparent, merely great annoyance. HeartofaDog (talk) 01:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. If you ever have any problems with my bot in the future (Hope not) please drop by! Peace, §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Bridge Photo

Okay I found my password and logged in. Pls delete the photo.--Ewok Slayer --(U | T | C) 03:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The Party House

I have declined your speedy of this page for the following reasons:

1. Events and products are not valid targets for speedy deletion.
2. Even if they were, the article in question had citations from reliable sources, demonstrating at least some notability.

In the case of articles like this that aren't pure open-and-shut cases, might I suggest {{prod}} or AfD instead? Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 08:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC).

Yes, those are other routes. I cound't get the link to work, nothing turned up in my searches, and in all honesty I thought it might have been a hoax. Oh well. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 16:48, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Format

Hi, I want to ask you a few quetions about your recent edits on The Tales of Beedle the Bard. I saw that kind of formatting on other articles, but I never really understood what they did, so I figured I could ask you. First, what is the difference between <br> and <br/>? And second, why did you place "&nb sp;" before every dash ("—" character)? There are now two spaces between the dash and the character before it. Diego_pmc ^Talk 07:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

An HTML break, which wiki will format, isn't proper syntax. The <br /> is proper, that's the only reason. the non-breaking whitespace character is to prevent the word and it's dash from getting separated, that was an error on my part that I did not remove the space, but instead popped in the code before it. Hope that answers your question. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 16:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Image_workshop#Generic Scout badge (our own image, please feel free)

Hi Shep, any way I could ask you to revisit this before it gets removed? Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to step on Lokal profil's toes, but if they decide they cannot do it I would be happy to give it a shot. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 16:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Nobody's doing it, it's gone stale, please step anywhere you like! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

for the wikimagic at WP:Update, much appreciated :) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 14:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I'm glad it helped. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 16:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Article alerts for WP:Kentucky

Thanks for setting up article alerts for WikiProject Kentucky. I think it's going to be really useful. I noticed one anomaly, though. According to the article update page, John Breckinridge Castleman was listed on DYK on December 10. But according the the article history, that article hasn't even been touched since November 25, 2008, and it was hardly a major expansion. It's still a cool bot, but it may have a little glitch. Just thought I'd let you know. Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 00:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, I've cross-posted your message at User talk:B. Wolterding/Article alerts so the botop can look into it. Glad you like it! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:AfD

Thanks for the heads up. It's hard to keep track of all these deletion pages ;) BlueAg09 (Talk) 11:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

help User:Carlaude/Sandbox2

Could work any on these this weekend?

• Place in Category:Dioceses established in the 3rd to 11th century
• Place in Category:Christian congregations and communities established in the 4th to 11th century
• Place in Category:11th to 13th century crusades

Also, if I gave you a couple lists with search-strings to look for, could you give a list of those that had the search-strings or not? I want to finish the Category:Religious organizations established in the 12th to 20th century and many of the articles are "churches" that could be basiclly local congregations or basiclly denomonations. --Carlaude ^(talk) 19:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes to the three changes, (I've just set a reminder timer so it doesn't pass me. For the second one I could do the srtings, I would just need to know if I needed to search the Title, Text, or both. I'm usually not this bad about remembering things, must be the meds, (yay! something to blame hehe) §hep • ¡Talk to me! 16:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Now that I know you can do it I will determine the best strings to look for, but it will be searching the text for things along the lines of "[[Category:Churches in" and such. Thanks. --Carlaude ^(talk) 16:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Would you mind creating the categories before I do the run? Even if it stays empty until tomorrow, it has to be empty for 4ish days before they can delete it. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure I'll do that now.

As for the search-strings, start by searching just List A here for "church", "Church", "Jesus", & "Christ". I hope this includes and words containing "Christ" like "Christian".

I only care about the pages with such a word anywhere. Please separate into those with "church"/"Church", those with "Jesus"/"Christ", and those with both -- or whatever you can do.--Carlaude ^(talk) 20:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I had time to do the text-search and the only thing that came up with (Hindu|Buddha|Buddhist) was Pazhuvil Church. Seems the only reason it appeared is because of the external Hindu.com link about a theft at the church. Everything else checked out; category work begins tomorrow (I hope) §hep • ¡Talk to me! 09:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I am still hoping you can do these soon. --Carlaude ^(talk) 19:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

dropped pages

Some of the pages are not being added, (in this case to Category:Dioceses established in the 10th century) such as

• Bishopric of Merseburg
• Diocese of Caiazzo
• Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Poznań

It seem to happen whenever the page is not in the Religious organizations by century category, such as Category:Religious organizations established in the 10th century, because it is in a sub-cat like Category:Religious organizations established in the 960s. It should stay in "Category:Religious organizations established in the 960s" AND be added to "Category:Dioceses established in the 10th century"

Seems to be an issue with each Christian organization category. --Carlaude ^(talk) 21:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I noticed and created a page here. I wasn't sure how I was supposed to act to those categories so neither did the bot. I'll go back over them now, by hand as they're all mismatched now. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Good. I see that we have another issue though.

Amesbury Abbey is a redirect in Category:Religious organizations established in the 10th century but my sorting system treated it like any other page, and, in short, your bot didn't. The page the redirect points to (Amesbury) is on the error log but it this (the redirect page only) should be done by the bot. Do you follow?

There are more of these in the very long lists I am working for Christian organizations established in the 12th to 20th century categories, and I do not have a way to find them now. Can you find a way for the bot to do these or ignore them?--Carlaude ^(talk) 21:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

It's unusual to have categories on redirect pages. Before I've been told not to add categories to redirects and report them as errors. I can only go off of past experience and what you tell me. Redirects aren't usually categorized, I told my bot not to treat it like any other page on purpose. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

It is unusual to have categories on redirect pages but Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects basicilly says that its okay sometimes, and I do not want to investigate these particular pages any more that I need to, it determine if it is an error or not. I do know that (for this project) we should not add these categories to the pages that redirect to. These pages are towns and localities that are not themselves religious organizations. Anything else will be most likely fine with me.--Carlaude ^(talk) 21:56, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my bot erased a page of data you have been compiling? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

No, not that I see.--Carlaude ^(talk) 21:56, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I follow what you're saying, redirects are now being treated as their own creature on my end. They will not be followed nor modified. I'll work on the logged articles later tomorrow more midterms tomorrow and I have to study a bit. §hep • ¡Talk to me!

Thank you for your help. --Carlaude ^(talk) 23:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

New Section

How do I dump the Javascript on a page to program a bot?I want it to protect my userpage from hackers, trolls, etc.User:Shock64 —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC).

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by dumping a page's javascript into a bot. If your page is highly vandalized ClueBot, or one of its successors, have special pages where pages not in article space can be watched by the bot. But I wouldn't worry about trolls and vandals too much right now; they generally only hit the better-known Wikipedians; with juvenile phrases like "I am teh gay!". I'll search for the Cluebot page and post it here when I find it. If you are interested in programming a bot the pywiki framework, perl, php, and js are all popular programming choices and I believe a good deal is detailed at WP:MAKEBOT and WP:BOT. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok then.But how do put the perl to program it?You can't do it on its userpage...--Shock64 (talk) 22:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)User:Shock64

Bots aren't run on Wikipedia servers, they're ran on on the botops computer in most cases, with the exception of bots that run on the ToolServer or servers with remote access. To learn more about Perl I'd recommend taking a read here, we also have a framework similar to pywiki for perl at Perwikipedia though many users use Python instead. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Calvin Levels

In that case is realy difficult to find some sources. I can find some secondary and tertiary sources in internet, but they are not satisfied for me. The article can remain with tag. Is it problem? I was only surprised, that this actor do not have an article. He was awarded. His performance in "Hellbond" is very good. Maybe someone knows some sources and will add in the future. I can not. It is always possible, that by a random I will find some sources. With regards. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:32, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I can understand that good sources are hard to come by. One of the main reasons I added the tag is because there are a few bots that compile statistics on unreferenced articles and I'm hoping that this will help tell others that the article needs a bit of attention. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 01:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Musick Guard Station

Why did you remove category:Buildings and structures in Oregon from Musick Guard Station? The edit summary contains no hint why. —EncMstr (talk) 02:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

That's one of the probelsm with HotCat, no edit summaries. The article is under Category:Registered Historic Places in Lane County, Oregon, which is under Category:National Register of Historic Places in Oregon, which is under Category:Buildings and structures in Oregon; so I removed the top-level category. This is per WP:SUBCAT. Hope that helps. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Ahh, very good. I only looked back two levels and didn't see the redundancy. Thanks! —EncMstr (talk) 02:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

And now looking at the category content I see a few more articles need my attention. :D §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Bot clobbered customized DYN

The DYN templates do not add the entry= parameter properly. I added them by hand to Talk:Yupiit School District and Talk:Serenity High School. Your AWB edits took them out. I put them back. When the DYN template is changed then it will be time to remove them. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 02:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

First off, those edits were't supposed to be the bot account; seems I forgot to logout and login as myself, sorry about that. You're most definitely entitled to your opinion, we just seem to see when to modify the template differently. I'm not that worried about it either way, please do what you see is best fit. Sorry for the issues I've caused you. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, as long as it gets settled one way or the other so that present and future DYNs look right. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

help User:Carlaude/Sandbox2

• Please let me know if I can help with this Sandbox2/Log or you want me to just do.

Could you work on this/these? --Carlaude ^(talk) 20:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

• User:Carlaude/Notes#List_A

(It is the next step before I can do more with the Category:Religious organizations established in the 12th to 20th century)

As for the search-strings, start by searching just List A here for "church", "Church", "Jesus", & "Christ". I hope this includes and words containing "Christ" like "Christian".

I only care about the pages with such a word anywhere. Please separate into those with "church"/"Church", those with "Jesus"/"Christ", and those with both -- or whatever you can do.--Carlaude ^(talk) 20:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

• User:Carlaude/Sandbox2#crusades

• Place in Category:11th to 13th century crusades

I can cover the log, you shouldn't have to worry about stuff like that. Search strings will be easy to do, I'm still working on the Crusades one when I have time I throw in bits of what I think will work, and it's not working perfect just yet. If only people used defaultsort... hehe §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

• List C

Sort this list of names into 20 some lists by century. Place each name one and only one list.--Carlaude ^(talk) 01:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I know...

I also know it's not really a vote, or at least it's not supposed to be. --Chimro (talk) 03:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, thank you for your friendly message. I just thought I should add my opinion to merge the article on Bill Keller into Live Prayer more explicitly since it seems like most of the other users are voting "keep" under the auspices that the other proposed option is to delete the article. --Chimro (talk) 04:02, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the tip. If the AFD fails, I'll propose a merger. --Chimro (talk) 04:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

New Composers Project bot run?

Hi - and Happy Christmas! - the Composers Project are interested in doing another bot run when you have a moment free - either during or after the holiday, or whenever.

We'd like to automatically mark all Category:Unassessed Composers articles as 'start' class when there is no stub tag on the article page, or contradictory assessment by another project on the talk page. Is that do-able? I think we did something similar for the Opera Project earlier.

There are about 2,300 items in Category:Unassessed Composers articles. When you are ready, can we start with a sample of 50 as usual to make sure the script is working? Best. --Kleinzach 05:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Of course, I'd be happy to help out. My hands are a bit tied right now, I have another project (above) that I can't figure out yet I did the same thing only a week earlier! I'll drop by when everything's ready. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 05:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

And now, for Fvasconcellos' traditional nonsectarian holiday greeting!

Wherever you are, and whether you're celebrating something or not, there is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! So, may you have a great day, and may all your wishes be fulfilled in 2009! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:49, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Is this a combination of my Christmas greeting from 2006 and my New Year's greeting from last year? Why, it most certainly is! Hey, if it ain't broke...

Mary Jo Kilroy

I am not sure which of you to talk to, but I have responded to your thoughts.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 09:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry had three places to go to for Christmas parties today. I'll take a look right now. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 04:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Independence Dam State Park

Yes. I would be very interested in using the pics of Independence Dam State Park. The pics of the dam and the canal are most useful. Have a Merry Christmas! Dincher (talk) 15:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for getting a start on the pics. Dincher (talk) 02:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again, I added a few and made a Commons cat for the pics. Dincher (talk) 23:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Request for ShepBot

I would like to post the same message on multiple users' talk pages. All of the intended recipients are participants in WP:WPMT. The purpose is to draw attention to a request I have posted here. This seems similar to a WP:RfC, but I'd like it to only go out to the Project Participants. Is there a way to do this all at once, rather than going to each user's talk page and adding a section separately? Thomprod (talk) 16:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I posted the above question here and got the following reply:

• Wikipedia:Bots is the place to go. There are several bots (automated programs) running. When you find a bot with delivery capability, just ask the owner to set the bot the task to deliver your message (or ask someone who uses WP:AWB) - Mgm|^(talk) 17:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

After scanning the bot list, I found that ShepBot can deliver messages to UserTalk pages. Can your bot do this for me? and, if so, how should I send the information to you? Thank you. Thomprod (talk) 17:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes this is more than possible, I have a form at User:ShepBot that includes the info I need to make the run. (Green box) §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:05, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

StepShep, thank you, but on the advice of some other editors, I have decided against a multiple posting at this time. Thomprod (talk) 12:55, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Edit to A-Class

I'm not aware of any specific prior discussion on this issue; my change was based mostly on the fact that {{FA-Class}} and {{GA-Class}} have the icons, but {{A-Class}}, which is listed between them in the assessment tables. Hope that helps! Kirill 03:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that those classes had associated icons; but if they do, I have no objections to using them throughout. Kirill 03:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

That's fine, then. I wouldn't use them for anything not on the assessment scale (e.g. Template-Class), though, since we don't have icons for all of the other non-article and non-standard classes (and there's a fair number of them). Kirill 03:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

That's probably easiest; alternately, you could probably just leave a note on WP:AN and ask that someone update all four templates. Kirill 03:48, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Years project request

Could your bot tag all the year sub articles (i.e. 2008 in sports, 2008 in music...) with our assessment tag? Wrad (talk) 23:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

File:Hickory Farms Product.jpg

I'm not sure what the appropriate tags are, but I added notes to File talk:Hickory Farms Product.jpg disputing the copyright status. The individual product labels carry their own copyrights. I'm not well-versed enough in case law to know how this affects the copyright of the whole but I think it prevents use on the commons if not in policy then in spirit, where it has to be abundantly clear there are no copyright issues. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 23:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Not sure exactly what you mean, left comments on image talk to keep discussion in one place. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:43, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

New Composers Project bot run?

Hi - and Happy Christmas! - the Composers Project are interested in doing another bot run when you have a moment free - either during or after the holiday, or whenever.

We'd like to automatically mark all Category:Unassessed Composers articles as 'start' class when there is no stub tag on the article page, or contradictory assessment by another project on the talk page. Is that do-able? I think we did something similar for the Opera Project earlier.

There are about 2,300 items in Category:Unassessed Composers articles. When you are ready, can we start with a sample of 50 as usual to make sure the script is working? Best. --Kleinzach 05:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Of course, I'd be happy to help out. My hands are a bit tied right now, I have another project (above) that I can't figure out yet I did the same thing only a week earlier! I'll drop by when everything's ready. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 05:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm going to be way for the next few days. Can I come back to you on this? Happy New Year etc. Best. --Kleinzach 00:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure I'll save my files until you're back. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm back now and will have a look at the sample shortly. I'm posting here rather than de-archiving again. --Kleinzach 06:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Generic Scout badge

sorry about your bad luck with Inkscape. Any luck? Happy new year! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:03, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Not yet. I have a handful of personal projects piling up (graphics) and I can't get anything to work. I might try to find another SVG editor. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Template merge

Thanks for merging the templates. Do you know how to reduce the font size to make it the same size at the military section at Jack Kemp?use the ne Also you need to update the template documentation so everyon can figure out how to use the new feature.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I see the font size was reduced. I am not sure if it was you, but if it was thank you. Do you think you can add the same feature to {{Infobox person}}.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:44, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't me, but two others altered the template after me so it was probably one of them. It appears the syntax was different from what the rest of the template used. I'll look into popping it into the other template. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

The template has a different layout from the other, but I should be able to get something. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

The History Award Barnstar

		The History Award Barnstar
		This Barnstar is for $tep§hep' s fine efforts using bot's to develop and maintain Christian history categories --Carlaude (talk) 18:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC).

That's very nice of you. Thanks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Years project request

Here is the main category. [2]

It would also be a neat trick if you could list all the articles you tag on this page: [3]

I'm trying to get all the articles on the project linked on that page so that we have our own, specialized watchlist. Your past tagging has helped our membership numbers grow quite a bit! Wrad (talk) 18:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's certainly is a category. I guess I'll have to filter out articles that don't have numbers in them? Else I'd hit something like OFM (South Africa). Might take a bit of work but I can do that. Listing the articles shouldn't be too hard either. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

That would be fine. The years project is pretty monstrous, it's true. Wrad (talk) 00:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe also make sure that it's only likely dates so it doesn't mark 6349 Acapulco. Wrad (talk) 00:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

So should I only tag articles that are "YEAR in WHATEVER" type articles? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that would be safest. They should be either "YEAR in X" or "X in YEAR" Wrad (talk) 00:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Some thinking while that category is compiling. Would it be helpful if I pulled every page that transcluded the project banner and put the links on that page? I did something similar with WikiProject Ohio, the whole 18000 some articles on one big page. Then again your page is nicely sorted and I wouldn't want to screw it up. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead. The sorting isn't important, just the end result of the watchlist. Wrad (talk) 00:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Another set of articles we may want is "List of XXX by year". Wrad (talk) 00:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually no, I'm seeing problems with that. Wrad (talk) 00:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

okay. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I've listed 2 different versions in the history. Current version is sorted "alphabetically" and the ther list should mimic the sort of the "what links here" page. I did include all namespaces though, including a portal page and some categories. If you'd like those removed please let me know. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Categories are fine. Is it the current events portal? Wrad (talk) 00:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is. Some day November 2005.

That's also fine. Wrad (talk) 01:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

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Was replaced with a PNG by a bot it appears. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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Royal Airforce Badge.png

Hello there, I've just removed the Source website Rafmarham.co.uk for the Royal Airforce Badge.png. I have strong doubts about this website. It may have changed since you say you took images from it. I feel it is only common courtesy to let you know and that I have queried this site on the Copyright talk page. You may not know that it has changed.

Rafmarham.co.uk says it is a Shopping Resources and Information website. Also that "This website is for sale!"

Should there be any links from Wiki to this site? As it stands I don't think so and should be classed the same as a dead link, thus removed. Anyway, just to let you know the change to the website status.

--BSTemple (talk) 10:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, I just converted the image File:Raf-600.jpg to File:Royal Airforce Badge.png as PNG doesn't have the compression issues of a jpg. I'm not sure where the image came from, I just copied the text from the JPG to the new PNG similar to what some bots do. Thanks for the notice though. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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Akron, Ohio

That's a good question. It's really a judgement call as to who jumps out at you the most. I'll look at the sandbox and see what I think and what others think too. Really, the list shouldn't be any longer than 10-20 on the Akron, Ohio article since the heading to visit the main list is there. I think we could get away with just the link and nothing else. I will look at other articles, but the Cleveland, Ohio article doesn't even mention notable natives at all; they're on the template. --JonRidinger (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm thinking a simple link would be the best bet too. It also eliminates debate over who is more notable than someone else enough to stay in the main article. --JonRidinger (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

CU question

I had had many of the same thoughts and think a CU would be in order - I had also noted that these editors reused the same copyvio images and ignored free ones such as the HAER image of the Goodyear Airdock. I have not filed a CU before - if you need a seconder, pleaee let me know. My understanding is that there is a time limit to how far back CU can go, so some of the accounts might be too old to check. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:02, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Akron Part 2

I removed the cityscape section and posted some comments on the talk page in relation to it. As for the image on the infobox, while I like the daytime skyline photo, it's so long that it comes out small on the infobox, so I don't think it looks good unless it's cropped on the ends to make it more square. My biggest problem with the night picture is its low resolution, plus I think daytime shots are clearer anyway and allow for more details. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I'd crop it a little more on the sides, but it's already better! --JonRidinger (talk) 01:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I totally understand that. The more I see both pictures the more I'd like to get a new one all together. Seriously. sigh --JonRidinger (talk) 01:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I have gone in circles with Rubohcity trying to explain the reasons why the current night photo doesn't work for the lead. You can see them on his talk page. --JonRidinger (talk) 15:55, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I suggested he put together a photo montage of free images which includes the night photo, similar to the ones on New York City and Washington, DC. --JonRidinger (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The Akron page is semi-protected, and new socks that pop up will be blocked. In most cases the sock editor tires of the game and the problem disappears eventually, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree it can be tiring and the efforts of all would be better spent on improving the article, but now that is what can be focused on. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Well well!

Well I guess that solves THAT problem...for now. Good find! --JonRidinger (talk) 00:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe some peace now. Though the IPs weren't blocked for one reason or another. §hep • ^Talk 00:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Better to find out now. It's easy enough to get a replacement for me as I'm all of 20 minutes from downtown Akron. Again, good eye man. Thanks for your investigative work with those pictures and the sockpuppet thing (not that I'm surprised). And yes, maybe some peace but more importantly some progress on the article. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. §hep • ^Talk 00:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I put a source on File:TownplotpfAkron.jpg. It is from here and since it dates to 1825 it appears to fall under the public domain category (pre 1923). --JonRidinger (talk) 00:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Definitely PD (orig. fix); just couldn't find the source page. Thanks for finding a source for it. §hep • ^Talk 00:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Magic?

Hi. Regarding this edit, how do you identify the white space? Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

It looks like I used Advisor.js for the whitespace and Lightmouse's script to make sure all of the dates were dmy, which was the most predominant form in that article. Hope that helps, §hep • ^Talk 23:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 04:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

New section

Could you please help me delete a page?Ailiuk (talk) 00:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I have been trying to remove the "Jacob Galan" page yesterday due to his request and some incorrect information, but I had no success. Thank you. Ailiuk (talk) 00:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

What now?

I understand basic copyright and agree that it needs to be protected. We took down the uncopyrighted photo of Boze because people pointed out that it appears on the kent web page (who cares, but OK) I put up a photo that doesn't appear anywhere and tagged it as public domain. Why are you removing it? I took it. It is not copyrighted and I release it to the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Purocafe (talk • contribs) 11:31, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Left message at Purocafe's Talk: page. §hep • ^Talk 21:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Apologies

Thanks for catching the copyright notice in the metadata for File:BBOZE.jpg and my apologies for not catching it and adding it to the article Betsy Boze. I have warned the uploader to go through Wikipedia:OTRS to get permission (which I doubt will occur as KSU would need to give their permission for a free license) or face a block if s/he keeps uploading copyvio images. Sorry for the extra work, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:05, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

You can't be expected to catch everything, no one can. It was no extra work for me, if it wasn't that image it would have been a different one. I'm impressed that you AGFed with that user for so long, and for that I congratulate you. I would have been ticked after 2 or 3 bad images and blocked them without warning (there's a reason some of us shouldn't be admins :D). Cheers, §hep • ^Talk 21:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Akron skyline

Just wanted to say good find on the Akron skyline shot. I like it and figured there was an actual free shot out there. --JonRidinger (talk) 01:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe I looked over it, it's been on Commons since '07. §hep • ^Talk 01:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)