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This archive contains comments posted between July 2008 and September 2008.

An honest mistake

Thanks for correcting the incorrectly placed warning tag. I'm always happy to let the administrators get together and slam my mistakes. Shinerunner (talk) 11:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

If that's the worst thing you do this week, you're doing better than most people. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:51, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi and about Catwoman in MK vs. DC

Hi, long time no see, how are you? WP:MK had little activity recently, so I felt like saying hi to you! Anyway, I shall ask you that how we can't add Catwoman to the confirmed characters list of Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe, since her full render has been released in Total Mortal Kombat, and TMK is one of the legit MK fansites that post true and confirmed information. Plus, if she isn't confirmed, who has designed this render? I think you got the point :) So, what are you saying? Master Spider (talk) 19:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, whenever I try to access that link, I get a 404. I was able to at least find a reference to it, saying it was taken down, but that's still a little bit weak for my taste. We're at a bit of an impasse, though I think we'd be just fine if we held off on it; after all, a render isn't actual confirmation, it's just evidence that someone did a render of it. Perhaps it's a render that the team did when they were sorting out who to put into the game, and they decided not to use her (not saying for sure that it is, merely pointing out a possibility). It could also be a render that someone else entirely did; I've got some friends that can do some fantastic things with 3D.

We can wait, though I will admit that I'd be surprised if she wasn't in the game. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, I haven't realized that it was removed... In case, Mortal Kombat Blackout (formerly Kamidogu.com) has the upper-part of the render displayed. I respect your friends lol, though I highly doubt that this render was made by someone else. We can wait for sure, but there is an edit war on MK vs. DC about the confirmed characters, half of the edit debates are vandalisms and the other half of them are about Catwoman. That's why I've asked you because as long as we wait, numerous edit wars will happen (darn fanboys...), especially about Catwoman. Why? "bcuz wii have teh render of catwoman released!!!!!!!! she's confirmddddd!!!"... See what I mean?

Anyway, if you're saying so, I'll wait... In the meantime, I'll add the MK vs. DC renders of Scorpion and Sub-Zero to their respective articles then. Thanks for your time! Master Spider (talk) 00:56, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Formal complaint

I was appalled to discover that this article not only does not provide the phone number of the local McDonald's restaurant, as it also does not mention the local McDonald's restaurant at all!! This is unacceptable. Húsönd 02:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I will do my best to rectify this outrageous oversight. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:50, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tanner-Christopher 2‎

Nice...I was just about to play a little game of "Find a bureaucrat" when I clicked on the above RfA and saw that it had just been closed. :) Meh...you win. :) Acalamari 16:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Figured it was a nice thing to do as my first edit since the long holiday weekend. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the message and the advice.--Chef Tanner (talk) 17:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

O hai

So check it... Meta is apparently in need of users with oversight. I was asked to consider who in the community I would trust with such a position, and you came to mind. So, just in case you are interested, this is the place to be. LaraLove|Talk 02:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Aww, golly gee, I'm gonna blush. ;) The best part is that this was the first of two messages in a very short span of time asking if I'd be interested. Either I'm very trusted, or everyone knows just how much of a power-hungry bastard I am. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

There are people that trust you? ô.Ó I mean... yea. >_> LaraLove|Talk 05:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I know! Alcohol is wonderful. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hmm

Well how exactly do I do what you have told me to do?--Ezekiel ^†alk 14:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

You have two choices: you can either follow the instructions found at WP:USURP, which will take a while, or you can post either here or at Wikipedia:Changing username#Ezekiel of Howdypedia → Ezekiel 7:19 with the "Ezekiel 7:19" account to confirm that you own both accounts. Once you do that, the rename can be performed. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:28, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Dustihowe → Dusti

Is it possible? Dusti^SPEAK!! 15:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

On July 12, yes. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

EVula, I actually think I may have created that account, is there an email address associated with it? Dusti^SPEAK!! 15:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I can't readily check that (or if I can, I don't know how). If you didn't receive the email notification sent with your usurpation request, then I'd say no. It's times like these that it'd be really handy to have checkuser access to see if two accounts belong to the same person... EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

EVula, today is the 12th, can you change my username please :) Thanks, Dusti^SPEAK!! 01:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

 Done. Enjoy your new name. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Usurp

How long does a typical Usurp take? I just want to know thankyou.Electrical Experiment (talk) 15:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

The typical process takes around 8 days Dusti^SPEAK!! 15:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

thankyouElectrical Experiment (talk) 15:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Xenobot

Thanks for the quick rename! –xenocidic (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Would you mind flagging the bot if you have a minute? See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Approved. Thanks in advance! –xenocidic (talk) 21:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 Done EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:11, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

cheers, –xenocidic (talk) 22:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

You can improve Wikipedia

You have used your administrative privilege to squelch my assessment of the article and by extension, Wikipedia in general. I suspect that you have some psychological issues and will probably delete this complaint of your heavy-handedness. Many Wikipedians consider your (as a prime example) bullying approach (without adequate dialogue) to dissatisfaction with Wikipedia's quality to be enough cause to leave you in your self-assured myth of greatness. There may be no safe place to criticize Wikipedia's flaws within the framework of Wikipedia, if you have your way all the time, so they will leave and moan about everything you do--I suspect you enjoy this and will change with nobody, so long as you get your way wiothout direct competition for prominence on the INTERNET. It's a major reason why many have invested in making new "pedias". It's okay...nobody expects you to live up to the model of sysophood established back in the day. Who really cares? Why am I wasting my time with you, or having any concern for the state of Wikipedia these days? It's hopeless and thank you for confirming what everybody outside the Wikiverse knows--enough to stay far away from a failed utopian project. Thanks again. Depending on your response in the form of commentary or "action", it may offer additional credibility to the claims of the multitude who will not venture to Wikipedia for any reason. Feel free to cybersquat and claim this "mountain" yours to do with as you please and to hell with anybody else's thoughts. Sceptik (talk) 03:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

...honestly? I stopped reading when you said "you have some psychological issues". If you'd like to communicate with me without insulting me, by all means. EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Tsk tsk...you deleted and basically shoved me aside, without asking me in particular (on the talk page) what my opinion was on the article. If you have no true interest in an article, let others defend on a proper basis. Running roughshod over other people is such a fine American way; I guess you've acclimated to the American Dream (now called "the dumbing down of America" by Wikipedia). How fitting that you should play this game and fulfill expectation of standards that sysops are held to these days. Dead on with analysis of this place by everybody I encounter, whether educators, coworkers, family members, news reports or clergy. You prove it with everything you've done or written that I've thus far seen in your editorial history. Fine job of a self-fulfilling prophecy if I ever knew of one. Defencive as always, that old canard. It used to be that honourable people let no controversy be joined to their persons, but held the upper ground from start to finish. Thank you for your help in improving Wikipedia! Sceptik (talk) 04:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

...yeah, okay, whatever. Three cheers for not so blatantly insulting me this time. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Ghandi said to be the change you want to see in the world, so I will not try to change Wikipedia for the better, but abstaining critical editors'--whose names I will not invoke for you to smear--collective inaction may help it go all the way to the bottom, thereby having no place to go but up. Don't worry; you're not alone in the cookie jar, so inasmuch as misery loves company, it is not anyone's fault in particular. That way, everybody can deny their part in disaster, all the while staying silent and pretending the accusations are crazy (or as you prefer, insulting), that you could be wrong, then pretending like everything is all back to normal when the criticism, but not the systemic problem which incites criticism "goes away" for a moment in time. Fine, upstanding fellow. At least you're not a suicidal pedophile terrorist cult leader, or is it too much to call Muhammed what he was, a spade for a spade? Wikipedia is good at skirting around the obvious and explaining it away with filler material to excuse all kinds of abominations to human rights and the part we call "sapiens" after the "homo", rather than "sexual" or "phile" after the "homo". I will now take my leave and feel fine and fancy free without such a convoluted worry that you lampoon by bearing the admin title and completely making it seem worthless. Sceptik (talk) 04:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Go away. I've got better things to do with my time than read this. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi EVula, this editor has also been causing trouble with his first documented edit to the Michael Jackson talk page (which I later removed), seen here. Considering the complexity of that first edit and his general Attention whore attitude, I'm inclined to believe this isn't a new editor. — Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 11:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. I was tempted to remove it, but figured that I'd just earn his verbose ire all the more. *shrug* EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

thank god

thankyou for reverting the MK vs. DC Universe Characters roster S02178 (talk) 06:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

My pleasure. I'm tired of seeing bogus characters getting listed. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Request

I'd like some basic feedback, if you don't mind. I recently began assisting at ChU and I'd like to know if I have made any error's. So far, I've taken silence as my answer. I'd appreciate your response, when you have time, on my talk page. I never watchlist a crats talk page for high traffic reasons (and the assumption there of). Also, I see you've been doing a great job in the area I once questioned you during your RfB No longer a thankless job, eh? :) — _Maggot^Syn 16:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Wait, so I can say whatever I want here and you won't read it? Mwuhaha...
Responded on user's talk page. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

No, I will eventually respond here. I appreciate your response. Thanks you. — _Maggot^Syn 17:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

just incase

just covering my butt here as i was curious of how you got your layoutfor your userpage looking so smooth so i had a look at it in the edit page. thought id let you know just incase it came up saying i edited it. Sincerely S02178 (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

No worries. :) The main components of my userpage are User:EVula/header, which appears on every page, and User:EVula/sidebar2, where I document my (considerable) better on-wiki accomplishments. EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Question

Ive filed My Usurp on july 7th, when can you estimate for it to go through? Electrical 00:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

NVM ElectricalExperiment 18:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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need help fast

people on the Soulcalibur IV are adding characters not knowing if they are playable or not so they decided to add a new section which to me is a big spceualtion. Also adding a small picture that is very hard to see twice. I really need your help.--Lbrun12415 22:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Not sure what you want me to do. The two characters listed under "Characters of unknown status" actually do have sources, which makes me feel like it's perfectly valid to place them there. EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:47, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Useight's Test → Pikachu

I'm not sure I would have performed this request. With SUL now live, I worry about the global position. SUL:Pikachu shows quite a few contribs to other projects, with the home wiki for the account being plwiki. So the person with the best claim to the account is the Polish editor. If Useight ends up being renamed to this name, he ends up with a better claim to global name and the Polish editor may ultimately have to give up the name. I think it could cause quite a bit of cross-project bad feeling if we are seen to be allowing Wikipedia users with high edit counts to maneuver into beneficial positions to claim popular names as global account. This is new so I don't think there's been any discussion about this between bureaucrats, but I think we need to be cautious in giving names that already have non trivial edits on other projects. Creating new SUL conflicts seems a little counterproductive to me. WjBscribe 03:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I've made a couple of points about the effect of SUL on rename requests: Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard#Effect of SUL on certain rename requests. See what you think... WjBscribe 04:05, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

So I'm finally in a position where I can start responding to talk page comments again...
This is very much an example of "Eric needs to listen to his gut on this". I had slight reservations when I was pushing the buttons, but put them aside; in reading the BN topic, you do make a very sound argument about why such usurpations should be eschewed in the future. EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

How unnerving

EVula, looming over my talk page, fixing the headers on messages left by other people mere seconds after they appear. ~ mazca ^{t | c} 21:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

It's far more insidious than you thought; I'm looming over your userpage too, moving comments somehow left there onto your talk page. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh damn, looks like you beat me to the adding to your talk page, while I beat you to the removal from your userpage. Well, it's still looming in my book. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:00, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. Well loomed. ~ mazca ^{t | c} 22:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

The fun never ends!

... Ever... ≈ The Haunted Angel 11:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Oy vey. Blocked. EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Usurp of Adolph78...

Today my request was denied by another admin. I was told by not only you, but another couple admins that there would be no problem with my usurping this other account. I made a new account per our discussion, but nothing ever happened. Then today someone else denied the usurp because the other account was blocked. Is there any way you can still do the usurp for me, or am I going to need to file a new report and wait another week? - Adolphus79 (talk) 16:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm assuming that this no longer needs my attention, given that Nichalp left you a note on your talk page after you left this here, correct? EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Need advice

Hi EVula, :)

I realise you're busy, but could you stop by your talk page on the Half-Life wiki and check my latest message? Your input on a number of issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --MattyDienhoff 09:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been really bad about checking in over there; I'll pop over there later tonight. Sorry about the delay; I dunno why I didn't get any of the "you have new messages" emails... EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

...and by "tonight", I now mean "tomorrow when I get home", because the past couple of evenings have sucked. Bleh. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I can't help but feel that this guy is overcompensating for something... WJBscribe (talk) 00:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, at least he ended it with "Make Will happy". They just want you to be happy. That counts for something, right? ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar... ad nauseum

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		You have so many barnstars it is starting to get silly, regardless... Thank you for reversing uncreative page move vandalism. Chillum 00:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

My favorite part is that I reverted them all right after coming back from a little wiki-break. One hell of a way to get back into the swing of things. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

The one way I have avoided burnout is by taking many small wikibreaks. Chillum 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC) (was 1 == 2/H)

Yeah, I'm amazed at how much taking a weekend off can help with stress levels. Especially holiday weekends; usually by that third day I'm going stir crazy, and I can jump right back on-wiki and direct all that frustration at stuff like CHU backlogs (which generally don't get made when you start beating up on them; it's a win/win!). EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Admin

Can I please become an Admin? I can prove my identity at Meta. Tharnton345 07:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd be more than happy to make you an administrator. Just head over to WP:RFA and I'll get back to you in a week. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not you

User_talk:Rlevse#EVula — Rlevse • Talk • 17:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

...actually, you're in fantastic company. Trying to be me is all the rage, apparently. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I suppose that the greatest thing about being EVula is other people also want to be EVula. :) Acalamari 16:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a nice counter-balance to all the people that hate me and want to see me dead. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The Rescue Barnstar

		The Rescue Barnstar
		For rescuing all those goods interwiki edits and picking them out from the bad ones (something I was far too lazy to do), I award you the Rescue Barnstar! Nice job ;> –xeno (talk) 02:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

It was fun, in a really, really screwed up way... EVula // talk // ☯ // 02:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I mighta done it myself, but I'm really not fond on attaching my account to so many different languages. my IW matrix is big enough. =) –xeno (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Pfft, why would I want to limit myself to just the language I can actually speak? ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
(I just did a check; I've got accounts on 382 projects. Damn.)

CHU {{notdone}}

Hi EVula, could you possibly apply a {{notdone}} to this request. Its been withdrawn by the user and it looks like its been oversighted, meaning the archive bot hasn't archived it yet. Thanks. Rudget 11:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Nichalp beat me to it. Bugger. EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks anyway. Rudget 14:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: TDK

I don't know if I have an absolute favorite! I think nearly all the Joker's scenes were awesome; loved him in the interrogation room. Ledger turned in a marvelous performance before checking out, requiescat in pace. I've seen it twice already, but I think I am going to take a break now until the DVD -- unless I manage to catch an IMAX showing! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 00:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

If I had more spare change to toss around, I'd so be seeing it a second time. :D EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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Unified Login

Helloe EVula! Sorry for disturbing you...I was seeing you're an outstanding colaborator to the wiki project, I don't want to bother you with that but....who am I going to ask? I was not sucessful in merging my wiki account following the Help:Unified login available...I was wondering wether someone has an step by step screenshot on what exactly I need to do since once I logged into the Special:MergeAccount nothing happen than saying my password is incorrect (which was not true). Could you help me or direct who could? Thank u in advance! --Alvarossjunior (talk) 01:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about using that system specifically, but personally, all I did to unify my login was... once I was logged into Wikipedia, I just went to each of the sister projects and logged in like normal, the unification was all done automatically. I don't remember doing anything special. Have you checked to make sure that your username isn't already used by someone else on the other project? - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm probably a bad person to ask for this, actually; by the time SUL finally rolled around, I already had 300+ Wikimedia accounts, so it was quite a while before I came across a Wikimedia site where I didn't already have an account.

If I had to guess, I'd say that maybe commons:User:Alvarossjunior is causing problems, since that's the only other account when looking at the SUL utility.[1] I'm just an admin on Commons, though, and am not sure what their renaming policies are; I'd recommend contacting Lar, a local bureaucrat (and all-around cool guy). EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Meetup?

EVula - you've previously expressed interest in a Chicago wiki-meet. If you're interested in coming to another one, take a look at Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago 3 and let us know your thoughts. best — Dan | talk 18:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Huh.

I've known you this whole time and never put two and two together that you're from evula.com (I've been an EV fan since waaay back in the original days). ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 13:05, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Good to see another one, I'm sure there's more EV fans on here than we realise. :) ~ mazca ^{t | c} 16:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Nine times out of ten, if you see an "evula" somewhere, it's me. It's my username damn near everywhere... EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

E-mail

I've sent you another note regarding the ongoing issues. As you haven't replied to the other ones this is just a note in case they're being stopped by your SPAM filter. Pedro :  Chat  23:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Er, odd, the last email I see as coming from you was back in May, and my spam filters aren't set to delete stuff without my approval... I've even added you to my address book just to make sure that Mail knows you're not some random spammer. Try sending it through Wikipedia, I guess? :\ EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Mailed via WP, but I think the issue may be fixing itself anyway. Cheers! Pedro :  Chat  12:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Got the email and responded to it. Didn't get this "you have messages" notice until I came on to drop you a line saying I'd responded. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Restoration of Image:NBS_120_Set.jpg

Thanks. Can you check out the information I provided and provide suggestions on presentation? Thanks. John (talk) 04:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I think the way you did it is fine. Might want to track down OrphanBot's edit to History of radio and restore the image there, though. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. John (talk) 01:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Awesome. Pleasure doing business with you. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 02:49, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

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Yo

Sock account of an established editor and admin. I could tell you who, but that would take all the fun out of it... plus it's sort of obvious. >_> Roger Took is notable. Not only for his criminal activity, but also for his book, which was award winning and acclaimed, but also because of his company. Furthermore, it was all sourced to reliable sources, and there was a plan to expand the rest of the article, that being about his career. Unfortunately, I only had the hours I spent writing what I did this morning/afternoon before I had to go to work. As I don't want to wheel war, I would appreciate it if you would drop a line back on my talk page... oops. Spilled the beans. Magdalena. (talk) 03:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Responded on... jeez, someone's talk page. Too many friggin' names... EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I took the liberty of restoring the page to User:Magdalena./Roger_Took. I also left a note to that effect on someone's talk page. ;) -- Flyguy649 ^talk 05:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I trust she-of-too-many-bloody-names, so I've unprotected and restored Roger Took (and its talk page), and deleted the userfied version (since it wasn't necessary). EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good! -- Flyguy649 ^talk 05:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. And dude.. Okay, so... okay. I just have the two names, k? It's my sock. Don't even consider it as being me. Cause that's the whole point. Don't want the orange banner. I just don't want my shit deleted because I'm a newb. :D Jennavecia ^(Talk) 06:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Pfft, it's far more fun to give you shit. :P EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

SUL account Times

Hello EVula, I try to switch my current user name into User:Times to complete my global SUL account. I placed a request here but nobody has answered, yet. Are there any restrictions or problems? Thank you for answering. --Times.uk (talk) 19:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Can't vouch for the other admins, but I just haven't had the time to look into it properly (I handled several other renames earlier today, but that's because I had a spare moment at work). I'll try to get to it tonight if someone doesn't beat me to it, but as per the wikibreak notice above, my spare time is sadly short right now... EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. Thanks for the trouble! --Times.uk (talk) 19:45, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

WP:BREAK notice

Thanks for taking care of business. hmwithτ 21:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. I'll keep watching it and jump on any issues that arise. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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Usurpation request

Greetings. Here [2] you marked by usurpation request as having been withdrawn. I think if you re-read what I wrote it's clear that I did not withdraw the request. How may I proceed? Thanks. - House of Scandal (talk) 17:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Er, so, just to clarify, you do still want the username Boston here on en.wp, and don't care about having SUL fully active on those projects, correct?

I did just re-read your statement and yeah, there are a couple of ways to read it: the right way, and the wrong way. I think we know which one I chose. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

EVula, thanks very much for closing out my RfA, and for the helpful links on my talk page. I might get back to at some point regarding some advice about Category:Wikipedia administrators open to recall. Best, Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:14, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

An excellent idea; that's a rather contentious, but still important, category. Definitely not something you want to do haphazardly. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts

The first sentence is so true. Jonathan How's the weather? - talk about me behind my back 01:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Amen to that... EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Changing username

Could you look over my request at WP:CUN? Cheers, --Meldshal42? 20:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Already taken care of since you asked me about it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

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Ariel'sCorner

Yo, just letting you know that Ariel is back on WP and has even logged onto IRC. Come on back to her room! GlassCobra 17:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Yay! EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Catonese User:Jason request

Hi EVula, I'd like to take you up on your offer to ask the Cantonese Jason if he'd like to relinquish his username. I really appreciate your friendly offer of help on the Usurp page. Thanks! --JaGa^talk 23:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing! I can't do it right now, since I'm about to head into work (where I can do a bit of light editing, but not much in the way of cross-wiki work), but I'll do it tonight after I tackle some of my long-overdue laundry. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Great! Thanks much, I really appreciate your offer. --JaGa^talk 17:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi EVula, I saw my request got tagged with a "not done". Should I give up on this then? Or is there still hope the Jason Lee user will respond to you? Thanks, JaGa^talk 03:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, Will's comment about other users being able to lay claim to the account is valid; however, Jason Lee appears to be the one that controls the "Jason" account for most of those accounts listed on the SUL util. I'm going to bug WjBscribe to weigh in on this; don't lose hope quite yet. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, there's still blessed hope. I was hoping you'd say that. Thanks for going the distance for me. --JaGa^talk 08:02, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't realised there was an active discussion about the request here as well as on the request page. If you want to revert my rejection of the request, feel free, but as thing's stand I think the request has to be turned down. As well as the bowiki user, there are also (apparently unrelated) users on dewiki (58 edits), plwiki (51 edits) and svwiki (88 edits) who have claims to the global account if Jason Lee were not interested - Jason is after all a pretty common name. Hypothetically Jason Lee and some of these other users may agree to relinquish their claims to the global name, but until that happens I think we have to decline this request. If I am wrong as to the number of people behind these accounts and Jason Lee consents, we can of course revisit the matter. WJBscribe (talk) 11:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

*Taddling*

And back again ≈ The Haunted Angel 14:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Tagged and bagged. What fun. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

oi

I needed that information for a future wikipedia article! revert it! --OuijaBoardOuijaBoard (talk) 20:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Give me some links about what you're writing the article about. If it's something that actually exists, I'll consider it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

fr:User:Philam

Hello, I want to usurp the english account for Philam on wikipedia, which is no longer used. It's the only wiki I can't add to my merged account.

• {{Merging|Philam|en|w}}

I'm already using these accounts :

• commons.wikimedia.org
• de.wikipedia.org
• el.wikipedia.org
• en.wikibooks.org
• es.wikipedia.org
• fr.wikipedia.org
• fr.wikibooks.org
• it.wikipedia.org
• ja.wikipedia.org
• meta.wikimedia.org
• ru.wikipedia.org
• sr.wikipedia.org
• tr.wikipedia.org
• uk.wikipedia.org

I asked Deskana but he's not able to work these days. Thank you for helping

Sorry for the IP address - Philam --148.196.30.40 (talk) 11:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username/SUL#Instructions – usurpation; that will generate all the links necessary for a bureaucrat to do the rename. It would also help if you posted something on the French Wikipedia confirming that you're the same user, and then provide that evidence at CHU. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. What do you mean by "post something on the French Wikipedia confirming that I'm the same user"? Do I have to mention it on my User page? 148.196.30.40 (talk) 07:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes. To make it easier on you, I just added a note to fr:Discussion Utilisateur:Philam; all you have to do is respond (while logged in) and that will confirm that it's a valid request. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done WjBscribe already got it, that sneaky guy... EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

A little belated

But congrats on your successful RfB! --Coreycubed (talk) 19:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! :D EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Your signature

Hey EVula, I'm sorry if it's causing you trouble, I'll remove it. But it's not two colons, it's a single em dash? At least to my knowledge, it is. Sorry again.

—Cyclonenim (talk · contribs) 22:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

No, the emdash is fine, it's the actual wikilinks. Here's your sig:

—[[:User:Cyclonenim|Cyclonenim]] ([[:User talk:Cyclonenim|talk]] '''·''' [[:Special:Contributions/Cyclonenim|contribs]]) 22:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Just remove the "::" from the links and it'll all be fine. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh. It must be built into the {{user}} template, as that's what I'm using. I'll make a seperate template for myself and use that. I'm sorry for the hassle, really. Cyclonenim (talk · contribs) 22:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

It was indeed built into the template. I've just created a personalised version to fix the problem. Sorry again. Cyclonenim (talk · contribs) 22:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

You can stop apologizing; it meant I had to make a whopping six edits. Don't worry, it wasn't a hassle. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Haha, well i'm sorry for apologising in that case! (just kidding)

Thanks for alerting me to the problem anyway, shouldn't happen again. Happy editing. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs) 23:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

MK vs. DCU

THIS is how the article looks on a screen resolution of 1280x1024 or above. Since most machines run at this or higher, the article format problem must be with your screen resolution. --CmdrClow (talk) 03:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm at home now, so I can't speak to what my monitor resolution is at work, but I know I run a high resolution. You're assuming that I'd have my window stretched to the maximum, which I generally don't. Even with that in mind, I still think it looks bad (from a web design perspective). EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Userbox Question

Hi EVula,

I saw your name as an admin member in Wikiproject Userboxes and was wondering if you could answer a quick question for me. I was hoping to make a userbox section on my user page consisting of three columns of userboxes. So far I can get userboxes on the left and on the right, but not in the center. See below for an example of what I mean. Is this even possible? Let me know if you have no idea what I'm talking about. Thanks for your help, αЯβιτЯαЯιŁΨθ ^(talk) 21:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

A userbox is a small rectangular box that looks like this. Below are more examples.

A userbox is a small rectangular box that looks like this. Below are more examples.

Userboxes can come in many different styles and colors.

Userboxes can come in many different styles and colors.

You'll need to put them in a table, and make each column 33% of the width. Then you'll have three columns (there are other ways to do it, too, but this will interact with the varying levels of CSS code in different userboxen). EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Great idea, the table works perfectly! Thanks for your help, αЯβιτЯαЯιŁΨθ ^(talk) 12:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:S-fic

A tag has been placed on Template:S-fic, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

The template is no longer in use and its use is contrary to the MoS.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on [[Talk:Template:S-fic|the article's talk page]] explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Bazj (talk) 13:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I love being templated...
However, this isn't something that should be speedied, but sent through TFD. EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:59, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

And I don't like having to copy templates across a load of user pages. But if that's what the process calls for... Um, you DID realise bouncing this speedy would mean a TfD template, didn't you? :-) Bazj (talk) 14:13, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it never should have been considered for speedy deletion in the first place; speedying is for stuff that needs to be gone, like spam or flame-inducing stuff. An outdated template isn't in the same vein. (the previous edit before yours was an attempt to speedy it as well, actually; that, too, got turned down) I'll hop over to the TfD at some point later, though I'd honestly be surprised if it was kept (I'm not opposed to the deletion, I just think that more than two pairs of eyes are needed before it's shuffled off the wiki coil). EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:S-fic

Template:S-fic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Bazj (talk) 14:08, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

You made me laugh

“ a unicorn will chase the Easter Bunny out in front of my car on the way home ”

Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 21:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

*bows* I try, I try. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Jean-François Champollion

Hi EVula. I just put a refimprove template on the Jean-François Champollion with a general statement on the discuss page of that article. I have just read Meyerson's book and there seems to be a fair amount of conflict between some of the statements in the article and statements in Meyerson.

I'm not a scholar in the area and, at any rate, I didn't want to fly off the handle and start whacking away at a page where so much work had been done. Also, in some spots, I can't tell if a citation supports a long body of text. On the other hand, Meyerson is largely unreferenced and could be full of nonsense, but you have to think he wasn't simply making things up.

If you're interested, I would very much appreciate your help in dealing with this. I also might significantly expand the article, especially concerning the biography section. Apollo (talk) 15:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, you'd probably be better off asking someone else for assistance; I'm much more of a wikignome when it comes to article writing, doing things like MOS tweaking and following interwikis, and don't have much actual content writing experience (the last time I did article writing was to overhaul Hannah's Gift to save it from AfD, but that was back in October of 2006).
Not only that, but I'm only around sporadically for another week (see the note about Coriolanus at the top of the page). My available time for editing (across all projects) is at a bit of a low point right now. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Admin page

Just so you know, it looks pretty good in Firefox 3. Not perfect (I'm not sure how you want it to look; some of the boxes do look a bit wonky) but perfectly readable. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 22:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's supposed to be two columns; in FF2, it's still just one. I haven't bothered looking at it in 3, though... EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

It is in two columns in FF3... some of the boxes don't line up, but they're different widths, so it's understandable. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 22:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Email

Hi EVula,

I've emailed you with an issue regarding an ongoing RfA. Any chance you could reply via email?

Kind regards,

—Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 22:36, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll respond to it when I can, but please see the note at the top of the page; I've only got two nights off this week from Coriolanus (tonight being one of them), so my priorities are not especially wiki-heavy... EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, my apologies I should have looked closer. Don't worry about it, I'll contact another bureaucrat. Thanks anyway and good luck with the play! —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 22:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

"Admin" page

You might've seen me before on your "Admin" page, attempting to fix it. I recently looked again and it looks perfectly fine in FireFox, so why not remove the disclaimer?

Thanks ~user:orngjce223 how am I typing? 05:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

See #Admin page above. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

CHUU

See Wikipedia:CHUU#Davin7 → Davin and a talk I had with WJBscribe about this on his talk page. I wish SUL would come out with a clearer policy. What do you think we should do with this one? — Rlevse • Talk • 10:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I wish that SUL policy was a bit clearer as well... I'd be inclined to weather the potential wrath of the existing Davin, personally; they haven't edited in over two years, and when it comes to the sheer number of contributions to WMF projects (a broader way of looking at things than just project by project), Davin7 has a better claim on the name. EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you as to who has the better claim and if the GFDL allows us to rename, I would have been willing to do so. But I remain concerned by the fact that there has been no official statement about this despite debate having staled on meta due to a lack of agreement on how to interpret the GFDL attribution requirements, in particular the obligation to "preserve the section entitled history". WJBscribe (talk) 14:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

If it's a legal issue, could we perhaps turn to Mike to clarify? We might be able to un-stall the discussion if we have some firm facts to smack people about with.
Personally, I don't think it's an issue, but I'm admittedly somewhat ignorant of GFDL. In my mind, Author X is still being attributed, regardless of name; if Author X is named "Editor A" or "Editor B" (when they go thru a name change), it's still Author X.
I don't want to sound reckless, but perhaps we should just plow ahead and develop our own policy; maybe that would get things going... EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

IE, be bold until someone squawks? SUL being firm on this could take forever. I'll point Mike here. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry EVula, but your analysis above is definitely wrong. The GFDL requires a "section entitled history". We have interpreted that to include a page history, which must stand on it's one. If one has to have recourse to a separate log to understand how to attribute an edit, there is a problem. As it is, someone should be able to print out an article, print out the page history, print out a copy of the license and staple them together. They have then complied fully with the GFDL. The page history uses names, not user IDs, so usernames are definitely significant. The obligation is one to "preserve" the section entitled history. That can be read in two ways: "not to allow any information to be lost" or "not to be changed in any way". I favour the first reading, which would allow us to rename someone with significant edits to "Bob (renamed)" but not to "Renamed user 71" but this isn't a policy question, it's a legal one, which is why I would appreciate WMF resolving this. Lets remember that WP:BOLD applies to editing pages, I'm very hesitant to go with it here. WJBscribe (talk) 16:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, I did admit that I was rather ignorant of the full GFDL policy about the preservation of history. :) I'm not suggesting renaming users to a generic username; I dunno if this has been what's happened (as I've been on a semi-wikibreak up until recently, I haven't been paying much attention to CHU*), but I do think that picking the next sequential generic name is a bad idea. *sigh* If the higher ups could just hurry up and figure out the policies... SUL had been looming for a long time; I'm kinda pissed that the legal aspects weren't sorted out first. Grr. :\ EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Done. Based on discussion, SUL headed that way, and being bold. The question is, just up to how many edits and how long inactive do we do this? This guy had about 85 edits and was dormant for 2.5 years. A guy right after him, Toth, at CHU has about 260. And a guy I turned down at SUL about 1-2 weeks ago was about where Toth is. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Anything over a year is fair game, but I think it needs to be weighed against who is making the request; if someone is brand new, I'm not going to give them as much attention as I would, say, someone that's been here for a year and amassed a few thousand edits. EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I am not happy with these being done, I have to say. The issue is not number of edits but significance of edits - i.e. do they require attribution? As I see it, there are two legitimate interpretations of the GFDL's provisions on this. One would permit these renames, one would not. Though I have a personal opinion on the question, I think we should await a formal legal opinion or other instructions from WMF before we start taking actions that may prove problematic. WJBscribe (talk) 16:47, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

confusion continues ;-) User_talk:WJBscribe#CHUU — Rlevse • Talk • 16:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Methinks a central place for this discussion would be good... hell, while I'm already wishing upon a star, some WMF input would be good, too. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm corn-fused

User:Endlessdan left me this message, with an image question, and used his usual, erm, "flavorful" language. You replied on his talkpage with this section, referring to "how his RFA went". I think you are confusing User:Endlessdan and User:Ecoleetage, who did leave a nice message on my talk, that you replied to. Eco's RFA is the one that went sour in the last 24 hours. E-dan's thread was the next thread down. As far as I can tell, Endlessdan has never run for adminship (nor would he pass if he did, he knows that). Am I missing something? It appears you've taking E-dan's message on my talkpage out of context. Keeper ǀ 76 15:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

...uh, that wasn't me screwing up, that was me... uh, testing you. Yeah, testing you. To see, I dunno, how observant you are. Yeah.

You totally passed. Good job! EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I should go offline. The odds of me being correct twice in any given day are extremely thin. EVula is the shit crat. Keeper ǀ 76 15:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean nor would he pass if he did, he knows that??? You said you'd vote for me...cocksucker! --Endlessdan and his problem 18:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

My personal choices in what I choose to suck notwithstanding, I would vote for you. The final tally might very well be 1-846-0, but yeah, I'd vote for you. I fully expect that you would vote oppose E-dan, you opposed your own arbnom too.  :-) Keeper ǀ 76 15:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

You know I think I can shock the world in my future RFA. Not shocking in victory like Rocky IV, but shocking like Rocky I. I'd like to think there are other rabble-rousers out there on Wikipedia who would vote for a cocksucker like me. I suppose there is only one way I can find out, eh? What do you think EVula, you cocksucker you? --Endlessdan and his problem 16:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm convinced. EVula is a 'crat you know, E-dan. He can of course just click a button and make you an admin. DO IT!!!. Prob'ly not the best person to be calling names, though.  :-) Keeper ǀ 76 17:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, "cocksucker" is hardly the worst I've been called, especially when there's no malice behind it. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah!! I think I just got a second vote for my future RFA.. :D--Endlessdan and his problem 17:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

2-845-0. Nice work E-dan. You might need to hire a lobbyist, or start spending some PAC money....You're the Ralph Nader of Wikipedia....Keeper ǀ 76 19:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope, still 1-845-0; I probably won't !vote so that I can be available to close it. :P EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

And of course, as one of our best crats, you'll close the debate based on weight of arguments, not on a simple tally count. Let me know your paypal info via email. Keeper ǀ 76 19:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Keeper, I'd like to think with my impending RFA election, I'll be more like the Manuel Noriega of Wikipedia. --Endlessdan and his problem 20:36, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Apologies

Hello! I just wanted to pass along my apology for disappointing you in my train wreck of an RfA (there is a scrap metal sale going on now, if you're interested). I am going on Wikibreak and I will let you know when or if I am back on the site -- I am trying to take time away to clear my thoughts and refocus on this and other priorities. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 05:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

No worries. Take as much time as you need; we'll still be here. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Privacy request

{{editprotect}} Please go to your talk archive for Apr-Jun 2008, under the section "Question about single-user login," and replace my real name with [redacted]. I would have done it myself, but you full-protected the page. Thanks. Yechiel (Shalom) 13:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done It'll still be accessible through the archive's history and the history for this page as well, though. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Status

I need to email a crat something, are you available? Sincere regards, Rudget 15:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm at work, but other than that, yeah. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, an email's coming your way. :) Rudget 15:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

.. yet again! You know why ;) - Alison ^❤ 04:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

My pleasure, as always. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Quary on Neutrality(?) policy

As I can recall wikipedias policy is to refer to countries under their legal name as it is accepted by the UN. however if one looks at the todays 7/9/08 first page/on this day section on will propably see "independence day of Republick of Macedonia"... however there is no such state as this. THE OFFICIAL NAME IS: Former Yugoslavic Republic Of Macedonia F.Y.R.O.M. May I remind you also that the are currently negotiations taking place for the removal of continuation of the "Macedonia" bit in the name. Wikipedias neutrality policy dictates that the temporary official name should be used.... If so possible I propose the creation of a bot to undertake the job of fixing this isue. As unimportand as it might seam to you: 1)it is a breach of the wikipedias neutrality policy 2) it is malinforming and incorrect 3) it means a great deal for the current countries in the dispute 4) it is disrespectfull towards the citizens of those countries and the UN thank you very much for your attention 79.166.26.188 (talk) 03:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I... I'm not really sure what you're asking for. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

This IP seems to have spammed all the crats on this. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, alrighty then. EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hi. With regards your recent edit to Chumbawamba, I'm afraid you've fallen victim to a difference in English grammar. See explanation here. There is more than one member of Chumbawamba, therefore Chumbawamba is a collective noun and Chumbawamba are an English band. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 22:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, fair enough. I thought I knew most American/British English variations, but looks like I've given away my native tongue. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

You really aren't the only one, it's quite an odd variation that's remarkably unknown. The American "Chumbawamba is a band" just sounds wrong to British people, and the British "Chumbawamba are a band" just sounds wrong to Americans, even though when I think about it the grammar makes perfect sense either way. I pay quite a bit of attention to the article on Iron Maiden and even with a few terse comments hiding in the intro paragraph I would say we still get at least one well-meaning American-English speaker a week changing the grammar of it. It just gets more confusing when you consider that a definitely-plural band like The Strokes are a band whether or not you're British. An excellent source of Wikipedia headaches overall. :D ~ mazca ^{t | c} 22:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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Damn bots get tripped up by this a lot; I've seen several of these notices initiated by vandalism. Thanks for fixing it, WODUP. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

EVulva

I may have inadvertently made an RFD pertain to your userspace as well by noting that a page of yours violates the same precepts discussed (Link to discussion). I think all are obvious keeps, but I misoverestimated the community it seems. Apologies for dragging you into this waste of time, but thought you'd want the heads up. --JayHenry (talk) 17:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Eh, no need to apologize. I'm not particularly concerned about it being deleted; it's already survived RfD before. :) Thanks for the concern, though. EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

You better check the RFD again, if you've not already. This time it's a far more serious matter of intellectual property rights :o It seems that, due to a most unfortunate typo, The Fat Man Who Never Came Back has developed an obscene scheme to profit off your, er..., likeness? Potential trademark infringement issues abound. --JayHenry (t) 06:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Bwuhahaha, that's hilarious. I'm going to get my lawyers. EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Interwiki Zen

Hi there.

I am not sure how it happened, but i came upon your user page. (Clicked a WP:EVULA link somewhere and saw the "in ur wiki" link at the top etc.) And i read your interwiki zen essay.

Almost all the same can be said about myself, except that i am not so meticulous about edit summaries. Maybe i'll start now.

I come from the Hebrew Wikipedia, which you hate so much. You can say that RTL screws your head, but you can be optimistic and say that it challenges your thinking and expands your horizons :)

Anyway, when you have interwikis to fix that involve he.wiki, just let me know. I cannot emphasize this enough: I'll be delighted to help. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, the amount that RTL screws with my head comes more into play when I'm just navigating the editing window; all my movements are so instinctive at this point, it's reflexive more than cognitive, so it's just hard to remember to hold shift-up to select a line instead of shift-down (depending on where I am in the text). When I'm manipulating large amounts of text, I tend to just copy/paste into BBEdit so that my cursor motions revert to LTR, then paste back in (and definitely use Show Changes to make sure I haven't screwed anything up).

I'm glad that there's someone else out there like me that enjoys zipping around in different languages, though I'm terribly envious that you apparently have a greater ability to understand the languages than I'll ever have. I'll definitely keep you in mind when I need help with any of the Hebrew language projects. Thanks. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:05, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, i'm close to finishing a degree in Linguistics, so i guess i do have some ability there...

You're welcome to try to hit me with questions about any language. Romance languages are a breeze for a lot of people, but knowing Russian opens for me all the Slavic Wikipedias, too. Japanese is almost complete guesswork, though.

And what's most important - i do care a lot about interwiki links, unlike most people that don't want to do it manually. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:59, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: MK characters

There's a discussion on the MK character list talkpage. The articles that got merged are those that upon searching aren't turning up reliable secondary sources in third party material (i.e. something like IGN commenting on a character as a character vs simply gameplay, or so forth), and that stuff is required by policy for articles. It's part of a motion to clean up fighting game character articles around wikipedia.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 09:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Give me a link. I'm not seeing anything. EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Found the "discussion"; waiting a day after getting one person's comments is not a viable discussion of the merge. Plus you placed it at the top of the talk page, which didn't really help catch anyone's eye. EVula // talk // ☯ // 13:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Long time . . . No talk, EVula. You probably have no idea who I am. It's been so long. Bye. --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh. He gets points for persistence anyway. Hee. Keeper ǀ 76 20:20, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Wrong, Keeper! --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Yep! Wrong Keeper!!! Keeper ǀ 76 20:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Stay out of this, Keeper! This message is for EVula. I want him to figure out who I am. (angry) --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Er, well, you haven't really given me much to go by... I have a slight suspicion, but it's just speculation on my part (and I won't bother saying it, either, unless you give me some bit of evidence that confirms it). EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, EVula, who do you think I am? I wanna know. --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

"I won't bother saying it, either, unless you give me some bit of evidence that confirms it". EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Evidence? What would you need for evidence. I've been on Wikipedia since maybe 2007. --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Username Change

Hi EVula,

Is it possible if you could process my request on the Changing Username/Userpations page - if available. Terra 20:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll jump on it when I get home; I'm a bit too busy at work to do a usurp right now. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Aw, well

I guess you'll never find out who I am. I ain't telling unless you give a guess to me. --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm let me guest you're User:Brit XI who was banned by EVula in 2007, for persistent harassment, did similar edits to EVula's talkpage and was banned for it and your starting to violate the foundations policy talkpages aren't meant to be use as a forum page unless it's discussing things about Wikipedia. Terra 21:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks like we're at an impasse, because I've got better things to do with my time than care. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

user rights and name change

Perhaps you can take a look at [3]; there seems to be some confusion about user rights. If it's for some reason sensitive, please email me. . DGG (talk) 00:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC) All cleared up now by the ed. involved, apologies for asking when I didn't need to. DGG (talk) 03:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

No worries, glad I could be of help. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Deflag request

Could you please deflag User:Scepbot? The operator and the bot are indefinitely blocked. BJ^Talk 04:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Asking an admin or OTRS to verify an email to be used as an RS in an article

Before this becomes really contentious, could you please comment on this suggestion [4] -- which would open up a real can of worms. Why an Admin would think this could be done is beyond me, but maybe it's some arcane thing I don't know about yet. (Mind you, if I could use the email from academics I've had it would have made my life a lot more easier, but it never occurred to me to try WP:IAR). Thanks. Doug Weller (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Replied here. Khoikhoi 21:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I just got in from a long weekend of not being on the computer... is there anything else that needs to be done? I'm somewhat confused about it... EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

As people are still talking about having an Admin verify an email, I'm still wondering if that is ever done for any reason. Thanks. Doug Weller (talk) 16:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

When it comes to verifying anything via email, it is done thru OTRS, not a regular administrator. With OTRS, there's a way to verify what is said, while any ol' admin saying "oh yeah, that's totally what he said" can't be followed-up with by anyone else.

As for what is needing to be verified, that's where my eyes glaze over. EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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Interwiki conflicts

Hi,

I made an old dream come true and set up this page:

• meta:Interwiki synchronization

You are welcome to comment on it and add new cases that you find hard to solve yourself.

Thanks in advance. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Watchlisted. Many, many thanks. :D EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Mortal Kombat

Hi, EVula. Long time no see! :D Someone's decided to move the main Mortal Kombat article to Mortal Kombat (series). I thought it was a bit daft, since the game and the film are already disambiguated, but I can't move it back. I was hoping that if you had some time, could you do the honours for us? With luck, it may encourage the user to actually talk to the other editors. RobWill80 (talk) 19:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it tonight; you're right, in that there's no point to move the series article out of the Mortal Kombat name. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi EVula,

Would it be possible if you could remove my Rollback feature and fully protect all of my userpage and subpages - I've been on Wikipedia far too long and I think it's time for me to leave wikipedia, I'll remain active on other wikimedia projects but not for this site. Dark Mage 20:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I've removed rollbacker, but I'm not locking down your userpages. I just did this for you on Meta, only to have to you come back a couple days later and have them unlocked. Just toss up {{retired}}; nobody's going to bother editing it while you're gone. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

For the benefit of Mr. McLaughlin

Hello! As luck would have it, we had an edit conflict on my WP:UAA for User:John McLaughlin, SC. I was in the process of withdrawing the call to attention, as the user's spammy page was deleted and he was making proper editorial contribution. However, you got there first! Survival of the fastest, I guess. I am leaving a Welcoming template with Mr. McLaughlin, to be cordial -- I am part of WikiProject Business and we could always use a good financial editor. Hope all is well. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
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For the benefit of Mr. McLaughlin

There will be an edit conflict tonight

On UAA.

The admins will all be there.

Late of RfA;

What a scene.

Over WP:U and editors hoops and garters

and lastly through Special:Random to fire

In this way Mr. McL will challenge the world! EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

And if I hold the monitor upside down, will it read "Paul Is Dead"? :) Ecoleetage (talk) 18:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Close; it will read "Paul Is Banned". EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Still drinking heavily in the middle of the day EVula? Bummer. I thought you'd have kicked that by now...:-) Keeper ǀ 76 18:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not an admin with a drinking problem, I'm a drinker with a Wikipedia problem. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Wait... you're drunk? Be careful, EV... someone might take advantage of you. >_> Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

...is that an offer? EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Especial:Watchlist

Why does this exist? Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Damn you for posting here just as I was posting to your talk page. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

You love it. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so it turns out that I somehow managed to break the internet. Hahaha, epic. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 18:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Mortal Kombat characters

I believe a list of characters that appear in the series - be it one appearance or having appeared in them all - should be placed in the series article, using a similar concept used in Super Smash Bros. (series). This reduces the number of lists on the articles without losing content. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

There are 42 SSB characters to display for three games; compare that with the 63 characters spread out over seventeen games. (and a chart is already available at List of characters in the Mortal Kombat series) I don't think the two games are particularly comparable in this regard... EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

An increase of 21 characters doesn't really make it too big. At this point, you'll have many large lists spread out over seventeen articles or one list of 63 characters that does what those 17 lists do, and then some. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, lemme rephrase. With so many characters, a chart like the one at Super Smash Bros. (series) is less easily referenced; it's much easier to just list the characters from each game in that game's article, especially when you can document additional relevant facts (such as hidden characters or other such modifications which litter the Mortal Kombat franchise). Simply listing in a single location is both unwieldy and inhibits how much relevant information can be communicated. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

You have a Mortal Kombat characters article, and whether they're unlockable or not is trivial. If there's an important note that needs to be mentioned, put a note marker in the relevant area of the list. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

...which completely and utterly misses the point about having game-relevant information about the characters in the game articles. Placing a limit on information only on the single list page isn't particularly helpful for all the individual game articles, and I'm rather unconvinced that the articles suffer for having the information on them. EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, besides the fact that lists are strongly discouraged against unless there's no other way to present the characters? The number of lists should be minimal, and having EVERY article have a list of characters when you can do one list that provides all the information a reader needs in a simple list. Any relevant information about them that non-fans would benefit from reading would and should be on the characters list article. If it can't go there, it shouldn't go on the pages themselves. Can you give me an example of information that would not be presentable in my proposed single list? - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Look, I honestly don't care enough about this to continue debating it. I think it's stupid to make a reader click a different link (that isn't mentioned anywhere in the body of the article, and isn't relevant enough to warrant inclusion under a "See also" heading) just to see what characters are in the game, especially when List of characters in the Mortal Kombat series is hardly a "simple list" (seriously, the table at the top is confusing as hell at first glance). I also think that comparing a 17-game series to a 3-game series in terms of organization is a horrible idea as well; they should be treated differently, owing to the differing quantities of content. You're not going to convince me that I'm wrong, and I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong; let's just agree to disagree.
And, for the record, I'm not going to revert any further edits to the MK articles in regards to keeping the lists in the game articles; I disagree with how they should be handled, but not enough to make an edit war out of it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

You provided an argument that there's information that the list wouldn't make available. First off, the list of characters is for information, and the list of games shows what characters are in what games, requiring only slightly more work than clicking on the TOC in the game's article. And saying that the number of games determines what should be available is silly, since a greater number of games doesn't determine that it can't be done. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)