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Tech News: 2021-27

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Tech News

  • The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 19 July.

Recent changes

  • AutoWikiBrowser is a tool to make repetitive tasks easier. It now uses JSON. Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage has moved to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON and Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Config. Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/Version has moved to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/VersionJSON. The tool will eventually be configured on the wiki so that you don't have to wait until the new version to add templates or regular expression fixes. [1]

Problems

  • InternetArchiveBot helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to Wayback Machine and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from archive.is to web.archive.org. [2]

Changes later this week

  • The tool to find, add and remove templates will be updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It will come to the first wikis on 7 July. It will come to more wikis later this year. [3][4]
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Some Wikimedia wikis use Flagged Revisions or pending changes. It hides edits from new and unregistered accounts for readers until they have been patrolled. The auto review action in Flagged Revisions will no longer be logged. All old logs of auto-review will be removed. This is because it creates a lot of logs that are not very useful. [5]

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17:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Unblock

Latest comment: 3 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

@Alexis Jazz:, apparently, you were wrong.

Anyhow, I have been wanting to get you unblocked or at least partially unblocked on Wikimedia Commons by starting a discussion. But I don't want to (unintentionally) do more harm for you than good. While I often disagree with you, I find that most of the time you build your arguments really well and always build them up using logic and good examples and I think that it's a darn shame that you are not utilising your talents for the WC now. --Donald Trung (talk) 08:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

No I wasn't.

— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

The example of ptwiki is interesting, but probably doesn't matter. It should be noted that ptwiki banned IP-editing despite developers saying "ain't gonna happen", so WP:IAR is high on their agenda. Also, it doesn't matter what you call an administrator. Deleters on ptwiki can delete and restore content and if I understand correctly are vetted the same way administrators are. They may not be able to block users, use massmessage or modify the abuse filter but that's legally irrelevant. For all intents and purposes they might actually be administrators, legally speaking. The lawyers get nervous when you either allow users to access deleted pages without being able to delete anything or when you make the vetting process less strict. For the "general maintainer" proposal back in the day, I envisioned a very lax vetting process so I had to exclude undelete. Thanks btw for your consideration to try and help with an unblock. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:00, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz:, I count only 98 Deleters as of today. I will check the Portuguese-language Wikipedia's archives to see what was discussed when they were created. I also envision page-viewers to be vetted in a similar process as admins, like Maintainers, but as admins have more privileges I imagine that the elections would be easier to pass and that being a "general maintainer" would become a prerequisite for any future admin. Thankfully I can understand written Portuguese so I will read up on Deleters. --Donald Trung (talk) 15:10, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: June 2021

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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-28

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El Palo Alto (Spanish for 'the tall pole' or 'post') is a coastal redwood (Sequoia sempervirens) located in El Palo Alto Park on the banks of San Francisquito Creek in Palo Alto, California, United States. It is famous for its historical significance and as the namesake of the city of Palo Alto. As of July 2016, El Palo Alto is currently 110 feet (33.5 meters) in height, down from 162.2 feet (49.4 meters) in 1814. Its top progressively died from 1865 to 1955 from lowering of the water table so that its roots could no longer reach sustenance.

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Gravedancing

Latest comment: 3 years ago8 comments3 people in discussion
  • @Alexis Jazz:, pinging you here as I prefer not to make any enemies of the people that frequent your talk page, but I saw this move changing from "not necessarily" to a more definite "not" indicating that it's never gravedancing. But isn't blanking the user pages of blocked users simply and only because they are blocked literally gravedancing? I always found it a curious practice as it has never been established as policy and people just started doing it to unperson blocked people for whatever reason. I also find it odd that there is literally no opposition to this useless blanking of user pages. Often I see users that all they do is list their featured articles and DYK's and have their pages blanked for simply being blocked. This isn't done to all users, for example Koavf isn't blanked even though it is much more autobiographical than most, so what are the criteria for blanking? Because to my understanding it mostly happens to those that have made "enemies" that want to unperson them basically always making it gravedancing. --Donald Trung (talk) 17:29, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
    I agree. Also, I undid that move. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:49, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
    @Alexis Jazz:, honestly, I am more somewhat curious as to why such a thing became widespread culture among most Wikimedia websites. I Noticed that this actually isn't a thing at the Dutch-language Wikipedia but is here, at the French-language Wikipedia they also blank talk pages.

— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz:, odd but, why do you keep mentioning the ability to undelete? Page viewers wouldn't be able to undelete anything and only see deleted files after passing through a system identical to RFA, if passed. The Portuguese-language Wikipedia's "eliminators" already function like this. The previous proposal for OTRS members to view deleted content was rejected because of the fact that OTRS members are appointed and not elected. --Donald Trung (talk) 04:50, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Brigham mentioned both "view such deleted material could arguably increase WMF's liability" and "risk personal liability by undeleting content". Granted, the latter doesn't apply to your proposal. Brigham's statement is only slightly more recent than Godwin's statement though, so the simplest way would be to ask Legal if they would be okay with page viewers. Eliminators on ptwiki aren't the same, they can delete too making them admins in all relevant ways, even if they don't have the actual title. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #476

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship:
      • Emu (RfP scheduled to end after 13 July 2021 11:49 UTC)
      • -akko (RfP scheduled to end after 16 July 2021 06:31 UTC)
    • Closed request for adminship:
  • Events
    • Past:
      • LIBER 2021 - Panel Discussion: Why use Wikidata or not - YouTube
      • SPARQL Wikidata divers. Session of Tuesday, June 29 (in French) - YouTube
      • SPARQL Wikidata Wikisource. Tuesday, July 6 session (in French) - YouTube
    • Upcoming:
      • The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday 28th July 2021 at 16:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. This month we will also be having a guest presentation about Toolhub by Srishti Sethi from the Wikimedia Foundation.
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Carlo Bianchini (University of Pavia), Stefano Bargioni (Pontifical University Santa Croce (Rome)), and Camillo Carlo Pellizzari di San Girolamo (University of Pisa, Scuola Normale Superiore) will discuss their recent project and article “Beyond VIAF: Wikidata as a Complementary Tool for Authority Control in Libraries”.; [6], July 13th.
      • Upcoming Search Platform Office Hours—July 14th, 2021. Come and ask anything related to Wikimedia search, Wikidata Query Service, Wikimedia Commons Query Service, etc.!
      • Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #71, July 18
  • Tool of the week
    • Schafe vorm Fenster is a project to build up a calendar for rural villages in Vorpommern-Greifswald using Wikidata to get images and short descriptions for the villages. (See example)
  • Development
    • Mismatch Finder (a tool to review mismatches between Wikidata and other databases): We continued initial development of the store part of the tool. We focused on the upload of new mismatches. (phab:project/view/5422)
    • Discussion on how do describe the types of mismatches reviewed in Mismatch Finder (phab:T285849)
    • We introduced a magic word that can be used to exclude a page from Special:UnconnectedPages on Wikipedia and co. This will make the special page more useful to find pages on Wikipedia and co that should be added to an Item on Wikidata as sitelinks. (phab:T97577).
    • We reduced the number of Wikidata edits that show up in the watchlist and recent changes of Wikipedia and co by not triggering entries for a number of Wikidata edits that do not influence the article (phab:T286193)
    • Property Suggester: We are reviewing patches by a student working on an improved Property Suggester.
    • Working on improving how deprecated statements are handled when checking “type” and “value type” constraints" (phab:T170401)
    • Working on fixing a bug where the entity suggestions are opened when a valid value is already selected (phab:T285102)
    • Wikidata-Wikibase federation (Federation v2): We investigated How to refer to entities that have the same IDs as the source wikibase entities. You can read the ADR here


You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 2

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Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 2, July 2021Read the full newsletter

Welcome to the second issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

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  • Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review - Initial meetings of the drafting committee have helped to connect and align key topics on enforcement, while highlighting prior research around existing processes and gaps within our movement. (continue reading)
  • Targets of Harassment Research - To support the drafting committee, the Wikimedia Foundation has conducted a research project focused on experiences of harassment on Wikimedia projects. (continue reading)
  • Functionaries’ Consultation - Since June, Functionaries from across the various wikis have been meeting to discuss what the future will look like in a global context with the UCoC. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable Discussions - The UCoC facilitation team once again, hosted another roundtable discussion, this time for Korean-speaking community members and participants of other ESEAP projects to discuss the enforcement of the UCoC. (continue reading)
  • Early Adoption of UCoC by Communities - Since its ratification by the Board in February 2021, situations whereby UCoC is being adopted and applied within the Wikimedia community have grown. (continue reading)
  • New Timeline for the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee - The CRC was originally expected to conclude by July 1. However, with the UCoC now expected to be in development until December, the timeline for the CRC has also changed. (continue reading)
  • Wikimania - The UCoC team is planning to hold a moderated discussion featuring representatives across the movement during Wikimania 2021. It also plans to have a presence at the conference’s Community Village. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs - Check out the most recent publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff blog. (continue reading)

Thanks for reading - we welcome feedback about this newsletter. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 17:33, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-29

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The Sèvres Egyptian Service is a name used for two sets of tableware made by the Manufacture nationale de Sèvres during the First French Empire. The first was produced between 1804 and 1806 for Napoleon I and was presented by him to Alexander I of Russia in 1808, as a diplomatic gift following the Treaties of Tilsit. It is now held in the State Museum of Ceramics in Russia.

The second set was produced between 1810 and 1812. It was intended as a gift from Napoleon to Empress Joséphine. The service consisted of 72 plates with the wells depicting scenes from Egypt based on sketches made by Vivant Denon. Joséphine refused to accept the service, which she described as "too severe". It was returned to the factory and given as a gift to the Duke of Wellington by Louis XVIII in 1818, following the Bourbon Restoration. The service was purchased by the Victoria and Albert Museum in 1979 and, except for one plate, was loaned to English Heritage to display at Apsley House, London, the former residence of the first duke.

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Tech News: 2021-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The tool to find, add and remove templates was updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It was supposed to come to the first wikis on 7 July. It was delayed to 12 July instead. It will come to more wikis later this year. [7][8]
  • Special:UnconnectedPages lists pages that are not connected to Wikidata. This helps you find pages that can be connected to Wikidata items. Some pages should not be connected to Wikidata. You can use the magic word __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ on pages that should not be listed on the special page. [9]

Changes later this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 July. It will be on all wikis from 22 July (calendar).

Future changes

  •   How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will soon change. This can affect bots, gadgets, user scripts and extensions. You can read more. You can test it on Testwiki or Testwiki 2.
  •   The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more.

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Wikidata weekly summary #478

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Past:
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Carlo Bianchini (University of Pavia), Stefano Bargioni (Pontifical University Santa Croce (Rome)), and Camillo Carlo Pellizzari di San Girolamo (University of Pisa, Scuola Normale Superiore) will discuss their recent project and article “Beyond VIAF: Wikidata as a Complementary Tool for Authority Control in Libraries”.; July 13th.
    • Upcoming:
  • Tool of the week
    • searchy.toolforge.org is a semantic search engine to find articles on a topic and filter results by metascientific info (gender and region).
  • Development
    • Mismatch Finder: Continued working on the store part. It can import first mismatches now.
    • Fixing an issue where month and year are sometimes parsed as the first day of the month (phab:T233105)
    • Fixing an issue with adding sitelinks for some of the newer Wikipedias (phab:T285919)
    • Working on improving the Lua usage tracking for redirected Items (phab:T280910)
    • SPARQL was amended on the 4th July to use the report #title, if present, as the anchor for the 'Try it' link. (example)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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