User talk:Deb/Archive 13

Wedu Fund

Dear Deb,

I see that the Wedu fund page I just created, has been deleted. I have no intention of creating a page for pure promotion but just an absolutely neutral entry.

I modeled the page based on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acumen_Fund and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UYDO and I had not finished editing yet when it was deleted. Any advice on how I can make the entry not seem like a promotion one? I am happy to modify it and I hope you will reinstate, thank you for your help.

MarioFerromario (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

AZ Research Partners Pvt. Ltd

Dear Deb, Dude, the page was contributed by me about one of the largest marketing research company of India (esp. in Bangalore). It was also having many references from the top newspapers of India. I hope Wikipedia will reinstate that piece. Best regards, --/Suneet87 (talk) 05:00, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Blade Element Momentum Theory

Hi Deb,

I have put in the references now and explained the purpose of blade element momentum theory and its differences with blade element theory. I don't know how to remove the capital letters though.

Smilesgiles89 (talk) 14:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Datuk Ahmad Fauzi Zahari deletion

You recently deleted the aforementioned article with A2 rationale. I'm just following up, as I can't find the article on the Malaysian-language Wikipedia. Got a link? m.o.p 20:14, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Taking this out of your archives as it was never answered. m.o.p 18:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes, it was! You weren't the only person who asked.Deb (talk) 19:19, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Mind linking me to where you answered it? I can't seem to find it. Thanks! m.o.p 20:39, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, found it. Just wanted to give you a heads-up that the oft-misused A2 criteria doesn't mean 'anything in a foreign language'. Cheers, m.o.p 20:44, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

If you read what I wrote, you'll know that I already know that. In fact, I don't think this criterion is often used at all, let alone "oft-misused".Deb (talk) 07:11, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

date-linking of year in X

User talk:Tony1#WP:RY have you even read it before making 100 million changes to the world article??? can you please comment on Tony's talk page he is attempting to remove date linking from the year in the United States articles that i commonly edit - thanks--68.231.15.56 (talk) 01:23, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

i have read both your talk archives on date-linking in year in X - "This fanatical linking of month–day units" - and - '"Standard introduction"'--68.231.15.56 (talk) 01:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Beautiful Store deletion

Hello there, I see you deleted Beautiful Store recently. Actually in our class, we are working on this page's project and there is no mean of advertising. Would you tell me that why you deleted? We are trying to do work this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GaHee Park (talk • contribs) 10:15, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I'd appreciate it if you could restore the article so I (acting as the ambassador/instructor to the course) could look over it. The topic is notable, and the students are certainly not trying to create an ad on purpose. But without seeing their article I cannot advice them on any potential problems. PS. Given that this is NOT "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" the speedy deletion is an inappropriate way of dealing with this, please use either prod or regular AFD if you have wish instead. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:46, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring it. I have now read it, and I certainly stand by my opinion that it is not an advertisement and that the deletion was not proper. I once again request that you restore it, with no prejudice to prod of AfD. Speedy was clearly inappropriate. I hope we can resolve it cordially here; otherwise I will have no recourse but to ask for a review of this at AN. And I am sure neither of us cares for the dramu (again, if you are unhappy with this article, let's go to AfD, no need for AN dramu - AfD is for controversial deletions). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:02, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Very well. I have asked for an AN review of this here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:19, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

One more thing. While I appreciate the restoration of User:Piotrus/Beautiful Store in userspace pending the discussion, please restore the full edit history, to comply with licencing (creator's attribution), per Wikipedia:Userfication and related policies. This probably should be also moved to the creator userspace (I have not edited this page) myself. PS. In fact, the edit history may need to be intergated with User:GaHee Park/sandbox, and the entry in my userspace simply redirected there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:43, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure, delete it, I am fine with it, but then please change the link-to's (from AN only I guess). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion review for Beautiful Store

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Beautiful Store. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:06, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Since we have a bit of a disagreement, I wanted to give you this virtual beer to signify no hard feelings. Your work is very much appreciated, even if in this instance it stepped a little on my foot :D Cheers, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:53, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I have a bot taking care of my talk page ([1]). It shouldn't be too long because of that, usually at <30 topics... although there's a lot of extra bells and whistles there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:58, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

What's your honest take

On my behavior during our recent disagreement? I am curious because my behavior in it is now being criticized at my ongoing RfA as unbecoming of a potential admin. I am curious if you would agree with the editors who cite it as a reason I should not be given the mop and the bucket? I'd have no hard feelings if you were to agree with them and thus oppose my nom, but I'd like to hear from your own self if you think that my behavior towards you was indeed so disrespectful, aggressive, and otherwise improper, as some think it was. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:06, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the answer. In retrospect, I think you were more right than me, although I still think that the technicality was a bit important (as in, we would've been better of with a prod then a speedy... not important anymore). Thanks again for your comment. Alas, I hope that the comment above did not come through as a request for a vote, I was simply curious as to your take on this matter in the context of an RfA, and this is the only reason I linked it. I am again glad we are on good terms, and I hope we will be for years to come! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:30, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Because this incident seems to be mentioned in about 25% or so of all oppose votes there, I have allowed myself to quote you there and mention our discussion. I hope you are fine with it; if not I'd be more than happy to refactor any part of my statement that mentions your comments. (If you want to see the specific comment I mention your reply, please see my reply at the RfA to the vote by Basalisk). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 15:08, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Jonathan D. Christenbury

Hello Deb and thank you for your response. How can I go about recovering the article? Can it be sent back to me? Thank you.

IvanB85 (talk) 19:44, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Lebbis en Jansen

Hello, you deleted the article I started on this topic. You had no right to just dive and and delete this on site without talking to me about it first or holding a consultation! The information obtained from the article was from the Dutch version and if there is enough information there to keep it, the English version should remain as well. I put up what I could at the time with the intention to improve on it later (which includes other people adding to it should they wish. Why did you take it upon yourself to remove it without warning? Cexycy (talk) 21:20, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did have the right, and you will find the reason in the deletion log.Deb (talk) 07:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

No, you did not. I have had speedy deletion things before and had than chance to put my point forward prior to deletion. You deleted this within a few hours with no warnings. Plus if it was notable in the Dutch wikipedia, why not here? Cexycy (talk) 20:52, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Pyrat -creating it again

Hi Deb! I will try to submit the pyrat page again. I will try to write in this time a better text and don't copy and past all the content as the website shows. I hope this time it were fine. thanks--Matoges (talk) 07:56, 22 April 2013 (UTC)matoges

[Help]

Dear Deb, I agree with your opinion that there are some grammar problems, but I don't still get what 'promotional' is in our article. What is the merit in Wikipedia? What is the goal in Wikipedia? Isn't it helping the editors and make a nice article? So, I hope you help us editing this article. We were translating and searching for the ideas and after you deleted the whole article, we couldn't express how sad it was. It was hurtful. I don't know what to say about this feelings. Furthermore, some people are interested in this project and are trying to help us out giving some information in my talk page. Look forward to see you in this project. Thank you.

My appologies

I am sorry i didn't reconfirmed it. I will write an article about centerstage media and i will correct all those links. I am sorry for this mistake.Dr Adil (talk) 17:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thank you for the kind words :) Dr Adil (talk) 17:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, that's the third helping I've been given. If only I liked nuts... Deb (talk) 17:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Volker Ullrich

Thanks for the intro fix on this one Deb - I'm always making that mistake. Can you give my new one a once over ? - Heinrich Amersdorffer. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 17:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Vonwelzen

I wasn't done editing i was adding company information about a video conferencing company that it belongs in a informational list on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_conferencing It diesnt differ from any other company on the list why is it not allowed to publish ?

Gene Yoon

Hi, User:Deb. User:Yunshui and you deleted Gene Yoon at the same time. Your deletion is wrong. Restore Gene Yoon. Sawol (talk) 10:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Check history. Sawol (talk) 10:57, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

This is just silly. Gene Yoon has not been deleted.Deb (talk) 10:58, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I can't see why Sawol is objecting, that's one of the cut and paste clones ... Actually the original article with edit history and refs is at GENE YOON, I have had a Tech Move request sitting at WP:RM for about 10 hours. Will the real Gene Yoon article please stand up? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:03, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Scratch that, seems Yunshui moved the GENE YOON original. All good. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:05, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

See below. Sawol (talk) 11:07, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

(Move log); 10:31 . . Deb (talk | contribs) moved page Yoon-Soo Yoom to Gene Yoon without leaving a redirect ‎(actual name) 
(Deletion log); 10:31 . . Deb (talk | contribs) deleted page Gene Yoon ‎(G6: Deleted to make way for move) 
(Move log); 10:31 . . Yunshui (talk | contribs) moved page Talk:GENE YOON to Talk:Gene Yoon ‎(Name shouldn't be all caps.) 
(Move log); 10:31 . . Yunshui (talk | contribs) moved page GENE YOON to Gene Yoon ‎(Name shouldn't be all caps.) 
(Deletion log); 10:31 . . Yunshui (talk | contribs) deleted page Gene Yoon ‎(G6: Deleted to make way for move)

Yes, I saw there was a request sitting there, so I acted on it in the course of the move as I thought that was what it was there for. Deb (talk) 11:11, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

The present Gene Yoon is one of the cut and paste clones. The original article was GENE YOON. Restore Gene Yoon with my edits and many edits which is deleted by you. Sawol (talk) 11:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of UniPad

Recently, I created an article about UniPad, a text editor, and you immediately deleted it! It was no advertisement. Just pure facts, including its disadvantages. I would be pleased if you tell me my mistakes, and advise me to solve them. The topic is notable and is mentioned in several books. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrzeinali (talk • contribs) 13:32, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

• I as an admin can see that there was never an article named UniPad. Please what was its exact name? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
• The article was named Unipad. Usere:Mrzeinali did its only edit at 15:00, 23 April 2013. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I know - that's what I just said on your talk page.Deb (talk) 14:26, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Verité Research

Hello Deb,

I'm writing to you regarding the deletion of "Verité Research" (created on April 26th). The reason cited is as follows:

(A7: No explanation of significance (real person/animal/organization/web content/organized event))

The article clearly states that the organisation is a think tank engaged social research(info box) with the appropriate references. I understand that the article has a lot of potential for a more detailed entry. I can also make a more explicit statement regarding the significance of the organisation, which is heavily cited in the local press (Sri Lanka). Therefore, I would greatly appreciate of you could restore the article for editing.

Best Regards,

Saber117 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saber117 (talk • contribs) 09:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Deb,

Thanks for the quick response. I am still in the process of citing the newspaper articles (e.g., http://www.dailymirror.lk/business/economy/25170-allocation-riddle-.html) and I shall do so ASAP.

Kind Regards.

P.S: Just for clarification, do I need to recreate the article or would I be able to edit a restored version?

Best, Saber 117 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saber117 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Deb,

I just recreated the article with independent references. If there anything more to be done, please do let me know.

Thanks for everything,

Kind Regards, Saber117 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saber117 (talk • contribs) 09:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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Deletion of ActiveWeb

Hi, Deb.

What was the reason for deleting of ActiveWeb page? Also, is there a way to recover the content of that page?

your help is much appreciated.

76.16.193.248 (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Redirecting Chinese Dream

You turned the Chinese Dream article into a redirect to the PRC. In the summary you called it an "unreferenced stub", however it's prominently linked in the first section of Xi Jinping, the current president of the PRC. The Xi Jinping article with your redirect doesn't help explain what the Chinese Dream is. IMO Chinese Dream should either be deleted or restored to the old stubby article as the current situation doesn't help anyone understand the Chinese Dream. What are your thoughts? Lordgilman (talk) 05:18, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

New article: Mark Paul Lindley-Highfield of Ballumbie Castle

Thanks for feedback, Deb. Yes, as per the article "of Ballumbie Castle" is actually a part of his name - see the text itself Mark Paul Lindley-Highfield of Ballumbie Castle#Biography. This web page refers: http://www.debretts.com/forms-of-address/titles/scottish--and-irish-titles/chief,-chieftain,-laird.aspx

Please can you confirm which you do not see as independent sources, so that I can tidy these up? I thought they were all reliable sources?Adammoseley63 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Christianity and racism

Paul Bedson again. Dougweller (talk) 05:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Dougweller (talk) 08:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

User page post

Hi Deb! This is just to let you know I reverted this edit to your user page, as it looked to be misplaced. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 08:41, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I also removed the "you've got mail" template, as it was added by someone else and looked suspiciously out of place... apologies if I've read the situation wrong. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 08:48, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

That's great - thanks for your help! Deb (talk) 08:48, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, My name is Vimmy, I am part of Psychology I/O, Spring, 2013 provided by York College taught by my professor, Dr. Ashton. As a part of our class assignment we are required to make small edits on a Wikipedia article that strikes our interest, as well as things we think needed to be added to the article.VimmyVimmy (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thanks for all your hard work! Wheelchair Villain (talk) 18:10, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Deb - that's boring Bedson again. Dougweller (talk) 08:56, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

About Vimmy, thanks!

Dear Deb,

Thank you for letting me know about what Vimmy is doing. I think she thinks she is creating sandboxes. I'll talk to her about it.

Best wishes,

Bill

Dr Ashton (talk) 18:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Recent deletion

Hi, Deb, I noticed that you have deleted the entry of the page "Fei Dawei" due to reason A7. I agree with your decision because I should have had a better draft before posting the entry. Would it be helpful if I put more references and citations in order to survive the censorship? Or do you have other suggestions? I somehow think that page is worth existing because other people of almost same level of importance and being involved in the same things all have their wiki pages such as the entries "Li Xianting" and "Huang Yong Ping". I have a draft in my sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:X135z973/sandbox Do you think it is on the right track to solve the problem?

Your help is much appreciated. X135z973 (talk) 06:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, Deb. I will revise it and let you know if it will work after then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by X135z973 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Deb, Does it work better now by being rearranged and reworded like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:X135z973/sandbox X135z973 (talk) 08:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Deb,

Thank you so much for your suggestion. I just revised the opening paragraph. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:X135z973/sandbox

Again, thank you so much for your help :)

X135z973 (talk) 01:40, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Morning Tea

Give me a reason why you've deleted my page Morning Tea which is a popular weekend magazine comes out every friday with The Daily Sun newspaper? Its wrong cause if you delete my page, you should have deleted this page The Star (Bangladesh) too. Md31sabbir (talk) 03:35, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

A new contributions for AJLAN & BROTHERS company

Dear Deb, I created a new contribution for AJLAN & BROTHERS company but you undid it because it appeared to be promotional. But I already created this contribution in Arabic in Wikipedia : http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B9%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86_%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87 and they accept it after modification for few sentences. I translate it to English and put as is.

I think rules of Wikipedia in English same as Arabic rules. Please advice me if there is any modification I should do to accept my contribution.

Best regards, --Mohfs2000 (talk) 07:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

speedy deletion needed

Speedy delete this rubbish article which has been created for commercial purpose The Star (Bangladesh) ( G11 : Unambiguous advertising or promotion) .

Md31sabbir (talk) 12:06, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

AZ Research Partners Pvt. Ltd

Dear Deb, Dude, the page was contributed by me about one of the largest marketing research company of India (esp. in Bangalore). It was also having many references from the top newspapers of India. I hope Wikipedia will reinstate that piece. Best regards, --/Suneet87 (talk) 05:00, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

hi

how do i find out whats notable and whats not

A cup of tea for you!

For all the flagging I have done, you have contributed a lot in boosting my motivation and confidence in CSD activities. :) Ghorpaapi (talk) 13:26, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Commissioning.GP

Can you please explain why you deleted the above page? Similar pages have been allowed on Wikipedia (i.e. Pulse Magazine and GP Online). Kirsty36 (talk) 15:12, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

But how comes other websites/magazines are allowed entries, and they are have similar notability? Kirsty36 (talk) 15:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Would it help if I added references to sites which are separate to Commissioning? Sorry new to this! Thanks for the help Kirsty36 (talk) 15:36, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I think as they have been established magazines for longer, that might give them more notability (also - don't want to appear that I am trying to kill them off - I was interested in what I could do to allow my entry to remain than get them closed). I will try to find a few independent sources and have another go at doing an entry. Thanks for the help :) And sorry - wasn't sure whether to reply on your page or mine!! Kirsty36 (talk) 08:18, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

ShopClues

Feel free to use PROD or AfD. -SFK2 (talk) 05:50, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Lewis Leathers

Hi, I noticed the label you just stuck on my article. Is there a problem with it?

Or if you can be more specific, I'll try and do better. Thank you Tim Ken Bear Ring (talk) 15:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Possible sock/troll

Hi Deb.. I hope you are having a good day. A new user User talk:Evettstops, has just created about some articles related to some Translation thing. I recalled from my memory that similar titles were deleted sometime back and the editor was blocked. Upon digging in the deletion log, I found that these articles (some with exact same name, some with bit different name) were created and deleted on 27 April. Check this part of the log ( look for article that has word translation). But I am not able to find out the original creator. I believe that this new user is a sock of that previous user. Can you look into this matter.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:32, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

CeMCOR POV

Hi Deb. Thanks for the note about the Centre for Menstrual Cycle and Ovulation Research page being too much like an advertisement. I fixed a few things with it-- when you get a change, would you have a look and see if you still think it needs the tag? Thanks. Smundy (talk) 21:51, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

you deleted a page

you deleted the "Neha mehta" page. there are no other articles on that actress. the other Neha Mehta is another actress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.2.56 (talk) 08:00, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Neha Mehta Page

I created the page under the username ShackMack. Please try to retrieve the page if you can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.2.56 (talk) 18:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

liblogging deletion

Hi Deb, I created the liblogging article that you deleted. I had begun to try to revamp the information Wikipedia has on logging topics (which is in bad shape, BTW). I had reviewed the other c library articles before I wrote the one on liblogging and had the impression that smaller librarie would be listed as well, if they were broadly available. With liblogging being part of (almost) all current distros, I considered it to be relevant (as least as much as e.g. libslack) to this category. I would appreciate if you could tell my why you considered it promotional, especially as I consider if I should continue adding about logging topics, which of course are a bit esoteric to may folks (but nevertheless pretty important in real life). Do you have any suggestions on what should be added to avoid the article looking like being a promtional piece? Thanks a lot! No harsh feelings, just looking for guidiance on how to continue :-) 19:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logfreak4712 (talk • contribs)

Hi Deb, thanks for the explanation, this is very useful to me. I have still to go through the links you posted in-depth, but especially the Wikipedia:NPOV tutorial page is enlightning. I think I now understand where you are coming from. For example, I took "easy to use library" from the projects' homepage and now realize that this sounds promotional. As far as I know, this actually means "a simple and unintrusive API", but I see that this wording is probably better AND needs some reference as proof. I'll also go through the notability article again (I did this before starting my work, but more than once I need to re-read things to fully grasp them). I still think that the article is a valid one. So my next steps is to a) check the material you referenced in more depth and b) do some more in-depth reasearch on the technical and historical facts around liblogging. Then I would try to change the article so that it meets the requirements and hope you'll review it again. I am not sure if I can complete these steps today. So would you prefer if I tell you when I think I am ready to update the article, so that you can restore it for as short as possible? Please let me know. Once again, many thanks for helping me creating better content! Logfreak4712 (talk) 08:42, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help. Before actually trying to improve the article, please let us talk about notability. I just did some research. Finding *many* independent sources is always a bit critical for logging topics. However, I found these references which IMO (!) show that liblogging is noteworthy: http://beepcore.org/products.html (this is the Marshall T. Rose (MTR - the BEEP creator) website); here MTR talks about it as an alternative http://osdir.com/ml/network.beep.beepcore.c.general/2004-01/msg00020.htm ; this is a list of BEEP implementations: http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/rfcs/3195.html (used during the IETF standardization effort) and this is a University presentation on logging developments: http://mschuette.name/files/uni/syslog-protocols-080522.pdf There are also many mailing list topcis (too many to quote all) between folks involved in logging system creation, among others reasoning why the API is simple, interop testing with Cisco and San Diego Supercomputing Center and such. Also, there exist ample package information for all leading distros, which I think also do not make much sense to include as references (after all, the package can be seen inside the package mangers). Given these sources, do you think it makes sense to improve the article (I just want to save time for the edit if you think it' not worth it - advise from an experienced user is definitely helpful here ;))? Thanks! Logfreak4712 (talk) 09:42, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again ;) I have now followed your suggestion and posted there Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing#liblogging_article - let's see what the outcome is (in any case, the whole discussion is really helpful to me and can guide me in the future!). Logfreak4712 (talk) 11:17, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Deb, long time no hear ;) Unfortunately I didn't hear back from the Wiki Computing project, maybe they are just too busy? I wonder how we should proceed. I am still of the opinion that this is a valid topic, even though I understand your concerns. So I would be willing to re-create the article and let it stand the proof of time. Obviously, that doesn't only make sense if you agree and do not delete it immediately for lack of notability. I am not 100% sure on your position based on your last comments. As you are obviously much more experienced, I will accept your judgement, but would like to know in order not to waste time. And, of course, if notability is not the problem I understand that if I don't get the wording itself right, that's another reasons for problems ;) Looking forward to your advise Logfreak4712 (talk) 06:06, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops... Either I overlooked the answer (:-S) or had a caching issue. But now I saw it and will follow the advise. Sorry for the interruption and thanks! Logfreak4712 (talk) 21:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Club des Balugas deletion

My page on the band "Club des Balugas" was deleted today because you claimed it was promotional. I am a fan of the band, I in no way intend on advertising anything, and the page already exists in Russian (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_des_Belugas). I want to know why the page appears promotional and what needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mushyjoy (talk • contribs) 11:37, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Redirection of Order Lead Time

Hello Deb, Redirecting to Lead Time is in my eyes not correct action, because as the same source you redirect in Wikipedia mentions http://www.leadtimes.org Lead Time Terminology in Manufacturing, the Lead Time is composed by 5 lead times and the Order lead time is only a small portion of it. You can also reference to Stevenson, W.J. & Hojati M. 2002 “Operations management.” Vol. 8. New York: McGraw-Hill/Irwin. I would add this as a next step when I get the separate page for Order Lead Time back. My intention is to share the formulas of how to calculate this time that can improve revenue models of the industry by knowing the order behavior of the customer. Hopefully this helps to clarify any doubt you may have.

How can I get my original order lead time article back?

Thanks!

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Changez Marri

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Hi Deb, I have received one warning from you about one recent product of Huawei. The articled "appeared to be promotional" to you. But there are thousands of other pages to describe the products, right? When Huawei launches a new smartphone, the details are here? Does it become advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaushikahmed (talk • contribs) 03:41, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Nathaniel Hayward

Hi Deb. First of all, thanks for your article. I was thinking about creating an article for Nathaniel Hayward for some time. From all the info I can find, it seems that Charles Goodyear acquired his vulcanization process from him, and he is the real father of the vulcanization process. Though, I fear this view might seem controversial, as Goodyear is a well known personality, and a beloved inventor in the USA. I can expand on your article quite a bit, but 'd like someone to review my editions, as English is not my native language. I guess you will be notified if I edit the article? I hope so. Cheers. Damian V. (talk) 13:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Grupo Preferente

Hi Deb, I saw you delete Grupo Preferente page due to A7 mistake: no explanation of significance (real person/animal/organization/web content/organized event)) I can give explanation of significance of the organization. In this website there is all the information: http://grupopreferente.com Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nezzeo (talk • contribs) 17:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I send you references for the page that you erased.

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Advert

Hi Deb. My purpose is not to make an advertisement with this link Hakan Okay. Can you tell me how will i fix this? Clementine83 (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Debs - thanks for your advice. I'm new to this so all tips gratefully received. I've edited/reworded the original in the hope it is less of an advert and more informative. If I can get this right, it will encourage me to do more. Many thanks...Mark Bermondsey Boys (talk) 09:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

MONSTER MATT IS A REAL FILM.

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Hi Deb, saw you deleted my page with (A7: No explanation of significance (real person/animal/organization/web content/organized event), not sure why 'cause the band itself is quite known all over the world between prog music fans and count more than 22000 followers, while there are pages of bands on wiki with less significance. Not trying to make comparisons or something, just trying to understand why the A7. ~~Phantomz73 (User talk:Phantomz73) 23:16, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Believe.in deletion. Hi - this page is the only thing I've ever written for Wikipedia which I did because my charity used them and found the concept unique and helpful. Now it's been deleted for advertising though it was never meant to be such. And it seems far less promotional than the pages which link to it. Is there anything I can do, in terms of style and format, that could help to see it included again? Many thanks, --Bermondsey Boys (talk) 14:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Bermondsey Boys.

It was an accident!

I don't even know how I did that! Thank you for deleting it. I was having a heart attack. (I tried to do it myself but couldn't figure out how.) I was having a heart attack. JSFarman (talk) 17:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Protocol Systems

Hi Deb. Thank you for your advice. This page is being created for a university assignment (as you should be able to tell from the banner). We have a deadline to post part of an article by Monday which we will receive advice from other students on how to improve the page and we will continue to build the page as per the assignment. Thanks again for your input, very much appreciated! Katey Harris (talk) 10:57, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Paramount computer

I understand the point now. I created the article using the media and web content. Let me write from my point of view. Thanks for your guidance. Akash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akash.rc (talk • contribs) 12:36, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Deb, I created a page on a 20 year old IT security provider in Gulf region with proper references from the media. Paramount computer systems, I hope with proper news references we can create the page. Akash

Longwei District

Do you mind deleting this redirect yourself so I can receive credit for creating the actual article? GotR ^Talk 16:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Believe.in

Hi - re the Believe.in page that was previously discussed, I've made another change as recommended and hope that it now passes muster. Many thanks...Mark Bermondsey Boys (talk) 07:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I believe that you improperly speedily deleted Pablo Sebastián López, the article did include a clear explanation of notability. PatGallacher (talk) 15:45, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Lumicall

This page was only recreated once information about notability was provided. You seem to have missed that.

You don't seem to have noticed that and have deleted the page far too hastily. Please put it back. For a volunteer project, it is extremely inappropriate of you to expect people to respond in 5 minutes or you delete their page and you are only undermining goodwill towards Wikipedia and the community.

If you have concerns about notability, then I would suggest you also delete the pages about projects such as Sipdroid and CSipSimple - it is both inconsistent and unfair for wikipedia to favour some of these mobile apps while excluding others.