Talk:Windsor Framework

Latest comment: 9 months ago by JMF in topic Jan 2024 revisions


Influence of back bench MP's

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There was the disagreement from backbench MP's Iain Duncan Smith, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, Mark Francois, Andrea Jenkyns, Jacob Rees-Mogg. This reaction must be mentioned as it provided confusion as to whether this bill would actually end up getting passed. This reaction from the Conservative party must be mentioned as it shows the divisiveness of the issue. Hayatayab (talk) 20:45, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the backbench rebellion certainly should be documented. It just needs to be done proportionately and in summary form: it seems to me at least that their individual comments don't need to be reported. IMO, Johnson's comments certainly should be given more detail, as both former PM and negotiator and promoter of the original NIP. More weight should be given to the positions expressed by Sunak, Starmer, Flynn, Davey, Donaldson, McDonald and Long. Also IMO, it is maybe more important to give the critical analysis of the Framework, the argument that it is a "smoke and mirrors" job. I'll leave it to others to do as they see fit.--𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:58, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Hayatayb:, there are some good quotes at Sunak evades damaging Commons rebellion as NI Brexit plan passes and Rishi Sunak defeats Tory rebels to win vote on post-Brexit Northern Ireland deal (paywall but search google news for "windsor framework" when:7d site:ft.com); probably also Times and Telegraph. Francois is quotable as he is chair of ERG, so not just any old back-bencher. (FYI, the Mail, Express and Sun are not accepted as reliable sources.) All yours! --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Jan 2024 revisions

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If somebody has the time and inclination to write it up, these are the relevant documents:

  • Command Paper
  • https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65b908614ec51d000dc9f184/Draft_decision_of_the_Withdrawal_Agreement_Joint_Committee_amending_Joint_Committee_Decision_No_12023.pdf Joint Committee agreement]
  • Volume 744: debated on Thursday 1 February 2024: Windsor Framework (Constitutional Status of Northern Ireland) Regulations
  • [https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2024-02-01/debates/FF622B49-BDA5-49BA-B18A-6BE5E4D7D93D/UnitedKingdomInternalMarket United Kingdom Internal Market (Volume 744: debated on Thursday 1 February 2024)
  • Carroll, Rory; Courea, Eleni (31 January 2024). "Northern Ireland to get new Brexit trade rules in deal to restore power sharing". The Guardian.

Your witness. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply