Talk:Tullamarine Freeway
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Originally planned Route
editI remember years ago meeting a guy who was involved in the Tulla airport and associated freeway planning, work he must have done back in the late 60's I suppose. He said to me that the original route of the tullamarine freeway would have diverged at Bell Street, and passed Essendon Airport over the top of it, to it's North East, rejoining the current freeway just before Mickleham road thereabouts. This would have meant houses to be acquired and demolished, but would have been a much straighter and efficient route. Anyway the local state MP apparently objected, got his way, and the freeway instead went south and then west of Essendon airport. He went on to say that because of this "weaving" configuration we now have, a bottleneck, meant that the airport could never reach it's full potential, as while they had located it so that it could have 2 extra runways constructed in future for expansion, this bottleneck meant that the freeway could not handle the passenger numbers. Instead, a new airport would eventually have to be constructed, earlier than would otherwise be required, out past Berwick somewhere, and would now be required around 2030 or so. I wonder if these latest roadworks at the Calder intersection alleviate this problem or not. I also wonder if this how many deaths have occurred because of this decision to route the freeway where it ended up... I wish I had some references... --Commking 05:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- That would actually be a very interesting addition to the article if we can find reliable source references to add it in. Pity we don't know when in the 60s because a trip to State Library of Victoria to view old newspapers (esp if a state MP was involved, quite likely) would probably yield some results. Orderinchaos78 15:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
National Route 79
editI wondering if the person who added the NR79 shield realises that it does no longer exist along the Tullamarine Freeway? --Sk-4 (talk) 05:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Expected Change to M2?
editThough State Route 43 did not change to M2, what is the source for saying that it was "expected in mid 2008 with the opening of EastLink"? --122.107.178.246 (talk) 10:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- We really don't need that kind of speculation here - it adds nothing to the article, and then every uninformed enthusiast says that it will happen 'because Wikipedia said so'. Wongm (talk) 03:40, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
VicRoads does have a plan to change all Melbourne freeways to "M" routes and the Tullamarine Fwy/CityLink-Western Link will be given the route M2, however there is no clear commitment as to when these changes will take place...I was informed of this in an email from VicRoads back in March 2007. The other remaining freeway with an unsigned "M" route is the Mornington Peninsula Fwy which will be given M11, it was signed this for a short time just before Eastlink opened but it was reverted back to metro 11. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain (talk • contribs) 21:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- Recent correspondence from VicRoads confirms that the route sign is changing to M2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispain (talk • contribs)
- Judging by the recent M2 sightings, I think you are right that the Tulla will become the M2. However, by writing "VicRoads is currently changing the route sign to Australian Alphanumeric State Route M2" implies that route 43 has been removed and now M2 is the current number - that, I believe is not correct as of today/this moment.--110.174.65.202 (talk) 12:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
M2 sighted along MCW upgrade. Visual evidence at site confirms this, ongoing disc is avail on aus highways google group —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.241.48 (talk) 12:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
The Tulla is signed as the on the newly refurbished section of the Western Ring Road. --Richmeistertalk 14:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Wirraway Avenue Exit
editThe Southbound exit at Airport West is on Wirraway Ave, not Melrose Drive. Proberton (talk) 08:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Since no one has expressed any interest in the debate, I'm going to change the name of the route exit to "Wirraway Ave ( I think it might be road, I'll check), which I'm sure will get people's attention. Proberton (talk) 01:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Wirraway Road doesn't even connect into the freeway (it starts some 300m from it in an industrial area adjacent to Essendon Airport), and the exit is clearly marked "Melrose Drive" on signs approaching. Generally a good idea if you want discussion to find where people are talking - WT:MELB would probably be the most likely spot. Orderinchaos 01:54, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Would you like to see a photograph of the sign that says "Wirraway Rd, Left Lane"? and if you dont' mind, I think it would be sensible to talk about THIS article, on THIS talk page. Proberton (talk) 13:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Except that only people with it on its watchlist see the discussion. It's usually better to advertise it on a noticeboard where informed regulars are likely to see it. Also looking from this map, it seems they have indeed built Wirraway to the freeway (it is marked as proposed on this map). On looking at your first statement (I was thinking of it in driving terms, and hadn't thought of the N-S side of things) it's a bit strange that Melrose was ever marked as a southbound exit, given that in my Melway (2007) it shows up as purely northbound, with southbound *entry* only onto the freeway. Orderinchaos 16:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Until recent roadworks, Melrose WAS only a Nthbound exit, Sthbound entry, like Moreland Rd and Pascoe Vale/Bell St. Are we good to make the ammendment then? Proberton (talk) 04:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Citation Needed Templates
editDoes the article really need all of the “Citation Needed” Templates? The person that put them all there couldn’t possibly believe that putting so much even in one paragraph is necessary √I.Osiar (Talk with me) 02:26, 15 October 2021 (UTC)