Talk:Terri Irwin

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Drown Soda in topic Images of Steve


In the "Early Life" paragraph

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it says she "started a rehabilitation facility...to re-educate and release predatory mammals." I'm speculating it should say "rehabilitate," but didn't want to make that change in case it is just missing an object to the verb "re-educate" - such as re-educate the public about predatory animals. Jnneedles (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)jnnReply

Giving David Attenborough his award

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She presented David Attenborough with a lifetime achievement award at ITVs National Television Awards last night.[1][2] I want to add this but I don't know where to put it, in the career section or in the Steve's Death section as she talked about how big of an inspiration Attenborough was for Steve Irwin. --GracieLizzie 13:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

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The link "Steve Irwin death film given to wife" seems to have gone dead. Anyone got an alternate, or something? -Gohst 12:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Is Terri an "Australian"??

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The article currently categorizes Terri under "Australian naturalists", "Australian television presenters", and "Australians of American descent". I question whether it is really appropriate to include Terri in categories labelling her an "Australian", since she was not born in Australia and (AFAIK) she is not a citizen of Australia. (She could, presumably, become an Australian citizen whenever she wanted to, but for reasons of her own has apparently chosen to remain a non-citizen permanent resident.) Comments? Richwales (talk) 16:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Image

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A more up to date and better picture would be nice. Fred Talk 01:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Sea Shepherd "eco-terrorists"?

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I'm very concerned about the way Terri's connection to the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is currently being described in this article. Calling this group "eco-terrorists" — even if backed by what appear to be reliable sources — seems to me to be pushing (if not entirely overstepping) the limits of what WP:BLP allows us to say in an article about a living person. Comments? Richwales (talk) 05:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

I've removed the material in question. The Sea Shepherd controversy can be (and, apparently, already is) handled in the article about that group. Per WP:BLP, we simply cannot include material in a biography suggesting that a living person is an "eco-terrorist" or a supporter of same. Richwales (talk) 06:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Once again: Is Terri an "Australian"??

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I brought up this issue several months ago, but I guess maybe I should bring it up again. The article currently categorizes Terri under several "Australian" categories — but I see a problem with this, since she was not born in Australia and (as far as I'm aware) she is not a citizen of Australia. (I assume she could acquire Australian citizenship whenever she wanted to, but for reasons of her own has apparently chosen to remain a non-citizen permanent resident.) Unless someone can come up with a good explanation of why it is still proper to categorize Terri as an "Australian", I propose to remove her from these categories. Comments, anyone? Richwales (talk) 06:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

She has dual citizenship between the U.S. and Australia. I heard it in an interview. Kgreg10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgreg10 (talkcontribs) 05:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
If a source can be found for this, it would be a valuable addition to the article. As of about two years ago, it appeared that she had not obtained Aussie citizenship — hence, presumably, her 2006 appointment to "honorary" membership in the Order of Australia (a version of the Order given to non-citizens). Richwales (talk) 06:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
Here is a link to an interview from 2007 saying she intends on getting Australian citizenship.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article2731174.ece
Its in the 5th paragraph. Kgreg10
But we really can't say she is a naturalized Australian citizen based solely on an interview in which she says she intends to become one. Can you find a source confirming that she has actually done the deed? Richwales (talk) 13:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
Once again, can anyone find a source confirming whether or not Terri has in fact become an Australian citizen? Someone added the category "Australian Americans" to the article just now, and I have a problem with that in the absence of confirmable evidence that she has gone through with Australian naturalization. Richwales (talk) 03:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Terri Irwin did become an Australian citizen, on 16 Nov 2009. Below is a newspaper article on her naturalisation, which took place at Australia Zoo on the zoo's annual "Steve Irwin Day". There is also a link to a Youtube movie.
http://www.ipswich-revealed.com.au/story/2009/11/16/terris-dinky-di-and-wild-about-it/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irkr51Ph4us
Steggall 14:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
The article says "formerly American". Is there any evidence that she gave up her US citizenship? (I would - why would she want to pay 30% of her income to a country she doesn't live in?) 77.99.153.116 (talk) 18:39, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
I'm not aware of any reports that Terri has ever renounced her US citizenship, so I'm going to modify the article to take out "formerly". US tax liability for expatriates (including dual citizens) can be very complicated, so it's not at all a foregone conclusion that Terri would be paying a large tax bill to the US even if she does still have US citizenship. Richwales (talk) 19:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
You can lose your U.S. citizenship by voluntarily applying for a second citizenship (see [3]). My brother thus chose not to become a Japanese citizen, as he would have lost his U.S. citizenship by voluntarily applying for Japanese citizenship, even though he is (and was at the time) married to a Japanese woman. Officially, she has to own his business because foreign nationals can't. I don't know if or how any of this applies to Terri (I am not an immigration lawyer), but my layman's interpretation would be that she should have lost her U.S citizenship. Don Lammers (talk) 02:17, 8 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
You can lose your US citizenship by voluntarily acquiring another citizenship with the intent of giving up US citizenship. Unless Terri intended to relinquish her US citizenship, she would not have lost her US citizenship by becoming a citizen of Australia. The situation may depend on whether the other country does or doesn't allow dual citizenship; Japan doesn't (as far as I'm aware), but Australia does. Read multiple citizenship, United States nationality law, Australian nationality law, and Japanese nationality law for more info on this subject. Richwales (talk) 02:38, 8 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
I did not say she did or didn't lose her U.S citizenship. I also did not suggest that your changes were misplaced or that I was likey to go in and change them. I just don't think we know for sure either way at this point. As soon as you put the word "intent" into a law it becomes completely fuzzy since intent is not measurable (just like "normal and customary"). I poked around the Web a bit, and although not explicit, the wording of all the articles I found implies that she took on the additional citizenship without giving up anything. I have not found anything so far that even implies that she gave up her U.S. citizenship. That's not conclusive, of course, but it at least indicates that your edit should remain unless someone can come up with a positive and reliable reference to the contrary. Don Lammers (talk) 03:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

On going battle with Steve Irwins parents not mentioned

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curious why this battle of greed and etc was left out. is it against the rules to highlight the not pretty side of the truth? truth be told her public image kinda paints her as well nevermind.. just curious why the negitive is filtered out. I'm no wiki scholar so I really don't know just asking. I'm sure one of the people that can edit "semi protected" stuff wold know what's allowed what's not and what isn't added on purpose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.169.224.99 (talk) 01:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

adding again.. the battle between them was quite a few years ago, it's possible it was silently settled. still kinda disappointed why it's not mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.169.224.99 (talk) 01:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

channel 10

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tonight melbourne news said rolf harris abused bindi Irwin after a few minutes he changed the name to bindi harris this needs to be addressed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.148.167.176 (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Images of Steve

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I think it's inappropriate that there are two images of Steve *without Terri in them*, one of them directly below the heading "career". Women are not defined by their husbands, whether or not his fame eclipsed hers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.43.88.2 (talk) 13:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I agree. I just removed them; it's very odd to have more photos of a Wiki subject's friends and family in the body of the article than the subject themselves. I also updated the infobox photo to a better image (former one was small and poorly-lit). --Drown Soda (talk) 06:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)Reply