Talk:Syro-Malankara Catholic Church

The Syro- churches

I think it would be helpful to have a brief recap in this article on the distinction between this church and the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church. They are both Eastern Rite Catholic churches in India whose liturgy is based on the Chaldean tradition, yes? I'm sure there are any number reasons why there are two of them, but you can't really tell from this page or the other. --Jfruh (talk) 22:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

The Syro-Malankara Catholic Church is of Antiochian tradition and not of Chaldean.--omalloor 08:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuzhinapurath (talk • contribs)

Requested move of interest

In case anyone here wants to weigh in, Eastern Rite Catholic Churches → Eastern Catholic Churches: See Talk:Eastern Rite Catholic Churches. Fishhead64 07:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Reorganization

This article is a lot better than the others. I suggest it to be split and parts of it to be organised as history of the Major archbishopric of Thrivandrum and another articles for the major archbishops. There is an info-box for the catholic bishops. You'll find it if you go to page of one catholic bishop.If you have photographs of the acting or the late archbishops without copyrights you can upload them. Drjmarkov (talk) 07:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, but two of the metropolitans, Venerable Geevarghese Mar Ivanios and Cyril Mar Baselios, already have articles, so the information here would need to be merged into the existing articles. Gentgeen (talk) 07:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

If there are such articles, of course. Drjmarkov (talk) 07:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

GREAT JOB!!! i haven't checked out the page in awhile, but the new information is a welcome addition. The page looks to awesome and congrats to all who have been updating it.

Articles on Common History

There are Six articles which claim common history of Saint Thomas Christians out of this 4 have almost similar contents about the same period. To avoid repetitive articles and to improve the quality of the article, share about WP:RELY sources and re organization of these articles.Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian Christianity#About the articles on Saint Thomas Christians common historyPamparam (talk) 03:07, 23 August 2009

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Honorifics, run-on titles

An editor reverted edited material to text that violates WP:MOS against honorifics. These are not used in Wikipedia.

Double titles sound silly. A person is either a Baselios, or Catholicos, or a Dr., not any two. Which is superior? Pick one. Student7 (talk) 16:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Baselios is not just a title, it is part of the name. Its either Moran Mor baselios cleemis catholica bava or Major Archbishop Baselios cleemis. The later is not much used inside the church. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philippjames (talk • contribs) 17:50, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

The Usage of Catholicos is to confuse syrian christians in india. Holy See of Rome has clearly ruled out that the title Catholicos cannot be given to the major arch bishop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZachariaVarghese (talk • contribs) 09:47, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

As per Malankara tradition it is catholicos. The arch bishop usage is with respect to Roman titles which is not used in malankara liturgy. One should understand the Malankara Syrian catholic church enjoy its own autonomy in traditions and liturgy and rome has no jurisdiction on any title below catholicos. The real title of the head of malankara syran catholic church is "Moran Mor Baselios Cleemis Catholica Bava" which is used in church liturgy. Though Moran Mor is considered honorrific by wiki, it is inseparable from the name of the head of the church in real usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.20.97 (talk) 15:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Excessive detail

This is an article about the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church as a whole. Putting names of individual parishes, schools and clergy in it is inappropriate detail. That information should be moved to articles on the various eparchies, and really is not necessary even there. That detailed information is available on the official websites of the Church and of the Eparchies, and it is not the job of Wikipedia to duplicate their information. Wikipedia is supposed to present information from independent published sources. -- Chonak (talk) 23:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Invitation card image

I do not feel that the "Invitation card" image lends anything to illustrate the topic. It is merely text. This article is about the Syro-Malankara Church, not about the Jubilee or anything like that. You will have to justify addition of the image and work to gain consensus for the change here. Elizium23 (talk) 11:44, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Catholic Church naming conventions RfC

There is currently an RfC at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Catholic_Church)#RfC:_should_this_page_be_made_a_naming_convention that may be of interest. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk 23:35, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Founder of the Church

This is a strange title given in the Infobox Christian denomination. Arch Bishop Mar Ivanios is not given any title as founder of the church. H.E is the founder of the Malankara Reunion Movement. A formal organisation is declared by the Holy See as a new rite in the Catholic Catholic. Hence Arch Bishop Mar Ivanios cannot be considered as the founder of the church. Please remove the term founder from the info box as this is not an official title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jobind (talk • contribs) 15:09, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

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Factual errors in the Article .

The Syro Malabar Church is a separate entity and not emerged out of the Malankara Church. The 44/69 churches comparison lacks proof and citations and is historically untrue. Br Ibrahim john (talk) 03:20, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Daughters of Mary?

The term Daughters of Mary redirects here. According to my own research, the Daughters of Mary is a religious enclave located in the Catskill Mountains of North America, and has nothing at all to do with the Indian subcontinent. Wtf? A loose necktie (talk) 08:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

A loose necktie, there may be no English-language sources. There are two sentences in this article. Google turns up one link, paywalled. Yeah, there are about a dozen "Daughters of Mary" communities. Elizium23 (talk) 08:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

• Can we disambiguate?? A loose necktie (talk) 08:52, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

  Yes, that is an excellent suggestion. Daughters of Mary deserves to be a dab page. Would you like me to do the honors? Elizium23 (talk) 08:53, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

  I didn't wait, I went ahead and did it. See what you think. Elizium23 (talk) 09:19, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Add A Fact: "Syro-Malankara refers to liturgical rite, not ethnicity"

I found a fact that might belong in this article. See the quote below

The adjective “Syro” in Syro-Malankara, like the broader term "Syrian Christian," refers not to Syrian ethnicity in India, but to the liturgical rite that the Christians celebrate. As K. C. Zachariah observes, "most of the present-day Syrian Christians are descendants of converts from among Hindus.

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https://www.catholicsandcultures.org/eastern-catholic-churches/syro-malankara-catholic-church

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 {{Cite web |title=Syro-Malankara Catholic Church {{!}} Catholics & Cultures |url=https://www.catholicsandcultures.org/eastern-catholic-churches/syro-malankara-catholic-church |website=www.catholicsandcultures.org |access-date=2024-09-28 |language=en |quote=The adjective “Syro” in Syro-Malankara, like the broader term "Syrian Christian," refers not to Syrian ethnicity in India, but to the liturgical rite that the Christians celebrate. As K. C. Zachariah observes, "most of the present-day Syrian Christians are descendants of converts from among Hindus.}} 

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