Talk:Soukous

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Andrarias in topic African Rumba
Former good articleSoukous was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 28, 2006Good article nomineeListed
June 5, 2009Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

African Rumba

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Why is African Rumba being redirected to Soukous? These are two different genres.

I completely agree. Soukous and Congolese Rumba have very different rhythm patterns. Maybe it is just because no one has bothered. I'm planning to separate the two. If anyone is against it please discuss... Andrarias (talk) 22:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Question of naming

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Is soukous distinct from the "congo" music played in Latin America? --Smack (talk) 01:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Yes, there is a distinct "Congo music" in Latin America.--Ezeu 17:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
Do you think it's appropriate for the disambig at Congo to link here? --Smack (talk) 05:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
Yes, because soukous is called congo in some West African countries. --Ezeu 08:31, 6 October 2005 (UTC)Reply


Soukous should be more popular.--King of the Dancehall 20:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Questions and doubts

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First, let me say this is a very informative article, and I like it. However, when reading it, some questions and doubts came to mind. I think answering them would make this article even better.

  1. Does anyone object to taking out the Lingala/Congo information in the first paragraph so that the second paragraph isn't so redundant?
  2. How is ndombolo pronounced - ndómbolo, ndombólo, or ndomboló? What does it mean and where did the word come from?
  3. "By the 1950s, big bands had become the preferred format..." Versus what format? Did soukous really exist before big bands?
  4. "...some artists who had been groomed in the bands of Franco Luambo and Grand Kalle formed their own groups" Were they really groomed? (Definition of "to groom": To prepare, as for a specific position or purpose.) Or did they just figure they were talented and popular enough to start performing on their own?
  5. "fusing elements of Congolese folk music with soul music..." What elements? I'd like to be specific so that a reader could possibly recognize soukous when hearing it because they know what elements to listen for.
  6. Did anyone else notice that "fast-paced" or some version of it is used a lot in this article? (Eight times.) How about quick? Rapid? Electric? Accelerated? Lively? Energetic? Brisk?
  7. In the 1960s-1970s section: "Other greats of this period include Koffi Olomide..." According to the French Wikipedia article, Koffi didn't record his first album until 1983. Was he really a "great" during the 1960s and 1970s? Were Tshala Muana and Wenge Musica popular during this time, or should this whole sentence be moved to the 1980s section?
  8. Whoops! There is no 1980s section! What happened? Nothing? You can't have forgotten Mario!!! Bolembi ye?
  9. In the ndombolo section: "The fast [I already took out "paced"] soukous music currently dominating dance floors..." Can we replace currently with something more specific? In other words, when did "currently" start? Perhaps information from the French Wikipedia article on Wenge Musica? Since 1996 as per the text of Reference 8?

--DBlomgren 07:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

It is known commonly known as Lingala and Congo in other parts of Africa, and not as Soukous, so having those terms in the first paragraph is warranted. As for the rest, I agree that clarification is needed. --Ezeu 08:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

But it's redundant. See how it's repeated in the second paragraph? I'll take it out in a few days.DBlomgren 02:33, 26 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

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GA reassessment

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The article is virtually entirely unreferenced, and for that reason I'm going to have to delist it. Wizardman 15:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Reply